This shit again.

A few months ago, I got pissed because I got skipped over for a promotion at work. I'm a server/trainer/headwait at a chain restaurant. I've been trying to get on the bar since the day I was hired in 2006. I've had previous bartending experience, yet my bosses are dead set on putting new people who can't handle the immediate workload back there.

I think it's because I'm not thin enough. A lot of restaurant job positions are based on looks. Young cute hostess, attractive bartenders, young guy bussers.

The girls they have behind the bar now, not to be mean, definitely aren't attractive to me. I think I'm much cuter and have a way better personality. All of the bar regulars love me. Yet, I can't get a fucking job on the bar to save my life!

One manager told me it was based on seniority - who has been there the longest - well, the girl they are training now - I've been there WAY longer than her.

Another manager says it's based on job performance and that the other girls have been asking longer. That's BS. I bust my ass at work. I wouldn't be a trainer/headwait if I didn't.

I asked this same manager last night if they were training anyone new - he said no. That was a lie. The girl was taking her liquor class today. That really pisses me off.

Again, I think it's because I'm not thin enough. Yet, I've lost almost 40lbs. I feel like going up to the proprietor and saying "How much fucking weight do I have to lose to get on the goddamn bar?!"

I've literally been bawling my eyes out for the past hour because I'm just so upset. I'm upset that I'm being lied to by management. I'm upset that I keep getting skipped over.

But I feel like I shouldn't be. The girls they have on the bar now are the bitchy ones i've blogged about before. And that's what bugs me - it seems the degenerate loser types get ahead, while the genuine hard workers get shit the fuck on. I feel shit the fuck on.

I don't want to stay in FL much longer. Maybe this is the catalyst that I need to push my ass out.

How would you approach management about this problem? Would you at all? I'm just so upset. And feeling super alone.



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I just emailed an employee discrimination lawyer.

"I have a question about discrimination in the workplace. I've read over your FAQs, and it doesn't seem like my particular problem area would be covered. I work for a very large chain restaurant. I've been employed with the company since 2006. I took one short leave of absence due to another job, but was welcomed back gladly. Since the day I applied in 2006, I've expressed great interest in becoming a bartender. I'm a certified trainer at that restaurant and I'm also a head wait, which is a position of high responsibility as I handle the company's money for the night. I have high sales. I receive great responses on customer satisfaction surveys, yet continually I am denied the opportunity to become a bartender. When I applied in 2006, I had bartending experience from another restaurant and from taking a bartending class. As management changed, I had spoken with every front of house manager expressing my interest, and it seems everyone had a different excuse as to why I wasn't being moved up. Within the last 5 months, 4 servers have been promoted to bar. I spoke with the proprietor of the restaurant and he told me it was based on seniority. Well, I have been there longer than 2 of those 4 who were promoted. Now, they are looking to fill another spot and yet again, they are choosing someone else. I feel like I am not being selected for bar because of my weight. They like to put 'thin pretty' girls behind the bar. While I think I'm pretty, I am a curvier figure. Not obese, just not rail thin. I have a great rapport with bar regulars. I actually have bar experience yet these servers get put on ahead of me who have none. One of the servers they promoted has come into work after drinking before and high on occasion. Every manager gives me a different reason why I'm not being promoted, they basically lie to my face. If it was based on seniority they should have a physical list, but they don't, because that is just a cover, I believe. I've also just lost 35lbs. Apparently, that isn't enough. I had confronted a manager in the past about the weight issue and he said he couldn't say that was what it was. Do you think anything is going on here? It just all seems very unfair and unjust to me. Thank you for taking the time to read this. "

Comments

#1 if you think you are really being passed because of something like weight you need to complain.
#2 if they don't take your concerns about being passed over when you are the senior employee you need to leave and work someplace else
#3 SK you are hot with a great body. I would much rather see you behind a bar.
 
SK, Management lie ALL the time. The higher they are the bigger the lies & the less integrity they seem to have. It's so easy to say but try not to let it get to you. You know you're good at what you do & capable of more. If they don't utilise your skills then they are losing out. Id suggest you ask to have them recompense you more for your current assetts if they ain't gonna promote you to the bar.
 
Girl you are gorgeous. Do not get down on yourself or ever cry because of what the male idea of what sexy is or what size they think a woman should be (granted this is not all men). If they wont put you in a spot that you are more qualified for than another ( and it sounds like you are) without a legit reason especially after being a dedicated worker for 5 years then they dont deserve you. If you can prove to HR that all the women they have hired for that position have been a "certain size", and that you have been trying to get the position for a while with multiple position turnovers you can actually get compensation. Even more if you have lost weight attempting to change yourself in the process. Its emotionally frustrating and morally wrong i know. Just keep your head up your a strong beautiful woman. <3
 
Jasibella;bt42391 said:
Girl you are gorgeous. Do not get down on yourself or ever cry because of what the male idea of what sexy is or what size they think a woman should be (granted this is not all men). If they wont put you in a spot that you are more qualified for than another ( and it sounds like you are) without a legit reason especially after being a dedicated worker for 5 years then they dont deserve you. If you can prove to HR that all the women they have hired for that position have been a "certain size", and that you have been trying to get the position for a while with multiple position turnovers you can actually get compensation. Even more if you have lost weight attempting to change yourself in the process. Its emotionally frustrating and morally wrong i know. Just keep your head up your a strong beautiful woman. <3

They've actually just had to settle a lawsuit because they weren't promoting women to management positions.
When I go in tomorrow I'm going to try and find a contact number for HR. There are a lot of wrong doings at this place and they mostly happen because the Junior Vice Pres of the south east area- allows my proprietor to pretty much do whtever the fuck he wants because our store is so successful. They recently promoted a key hourly employee to full manager. She trained at our store - the store she worked in before her promotion. That is a HUGE no-no. Every other freaking manager in training has to go to another store to train so there's no conflict of interest, lack of respect issue. Why did our new manager train at our store? Because the JVP said it was OK. They're all up eachother's asses and I don't know whom to contact about it. The proprietor of my store also has no problem with underage minors drinking in his establishment as long as they're not DEA task force. I had an issue one night with a girl giving me a fake ID and I showed it to the proprietor and he said "Go ahead and serve her. If she was DEA, she wouldn't be sitting at a table having a meal.
 
SerialKisser... you are a smart girl..
Sit down and write out your thoughts.
Stick to the facts.
Don't let your emotions take over during your discussions(this is the hard part).
Stay calm and focused on the issues, even if they try to change the subject.

You are smart, you are attractive.
You obviously know the business.
But you have been there 5 yrs and still not behind the bar.... are you asking on a regular basis for this promotion? If so they must give you a good reason (performance? make them prove it by your evaluations or ratings... seniority? make them prove it.)
Just remember if you lose your cool, you've more than likely lost your job. If you approach it calmly, you may be surprised as the outcome.

Good luck, girl...
 
Aw, SK :(

Firstly *hugs*

Secondly, Fancy gave you some really excellent advice there - especially about staying calm, sticking to the facts and making them give reasons. It will also help to list the events in chronological order with dates if possible and who said what.

I work in a very male dominated profession and have been forced to do this on a couple of occasions because I was being given different work to the men. Keeping your cool is the hardest part.
 
One word of advice, SK: get some of this in writing. Unless you do so, you will never be able to prove that you repeatedly asked for the bar assignment. They will simply deny it. Make a written request to HR that you be considered for the next bar position available. Provide your credentials. Note your seniority and that you were advised by your superior that it was your length of employment that was dispositive. Force them to take your request seriously. Once you create a record, they must respond appropriately or they are at risk...and they hate being at risk.

Good luck.
 
I worked at a gay bar. I noticed a lot of bartenders were getting paid A LOT of munny. I wanted to learn how to bartend. I worked bar back. I did the doorperson thing. I even helped with beer and liquor inventories. Do you know that when I asked if I could train to bartend...my boss simply told me that I wasn't "hip"? And I asked "What do you mean by that? People like me at the door doing doorperson duties. I can learn how to mix the drinks...I can do it." The boss didn't let me...stuck by the "I was unhip!" answer.


I did some investigation and asked other people about what the boss say to me about "not being hip". They let me know that that bar REALLY wasn't known for its bartenders who can mix a great drink...it was more a front...for selling rave drugs. And that "unhip" meant that I wasn't a part of that "scene".


(And I was REALLY disappointed. I guess I should've known better. )


I was let go not too soon after all that.


So, Serial...I think that you shouldn't sweat over your manager not giving you a chance to bartend. If you want to bartend...you can learn on your own how to do so online....and by reading books on bartending. I am sorry that you are going through what you are going through. It is difficult.

You could work somewhere else that will give you an honest chance at bartending. You could work for a caterer...a wedding planner...get trained...

Don't let one naysayer get you down.


 
You are too good in your current position. If management moves you to the bar they have to train someone to replace you. It's much easier and cheaper for them to hire some dimwit to work behind the bar for a few bucks an hour. Perhaps it's time to move on....
 
RedScrotum;bt42409 said:
You are too good in your current position. If management moves you to the bar they have to train someone to replace you. It's much easier and cheaper for them to hire some dimwit to work behind the bar for a few bucks an hour. Perhaps it's time to move on....

i'm sure her frustration lies in the faact the "dimwits" make more in tips.

here people buy a $4 beer leave a buck 25% tip. how mnay tables who ordered figner food leave 25%....and insult to injury opening the beer is alot less effort than taking orders, serving food, etc
 

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