Breast Enlargement And Reduction

[T_Lurch]

I'm curious about your thoughts on breast enlargement (specifically extreme augmentation) and the health issues that come with it, and reduction.

I noticed a trend with gargantuan augmentation (as a fetish) making something of a comeback. Not merely DD sized, but far beyond. As in Brobdingnagian proportions; some of these women looked like watermelons had been inserted underneath the skin, to the point the skin was stretched out like tanned leather. Some have compared it to penis enlargement/pumping, but it's not quite a clear analogue; penile augmentation doesn't quite produce the same extreme results. I see this and think of how they must be setting themselves up for horrendous back problems down the road.

At the other end of the coin, do you think reduction causes any adverse problems of its own? My own wife is well endowed (over DD) and it comes with a plethora of problems: underwire bras quickly wear out and break and the wire pokes her forcing her to buy new ones, and they're not cheap to replace either from what I understand. Additionally she gets back pain from them at times. She has talked about reduction surgery, which I fully support, though we can't afford the cost.

I often wonder if going braless isn't healthier in the long run; I mentioned this to her and she told me they need the support at certain times.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Reduction gives many women their lives back.
Reduced or eliminated pain, postural correction, way less creepers staring at your chest.
I’ve considered it many times. the downside could be a decrease in sensitivity, especially nipple, post surgery.

I made a comment in the penile surgery thread equating the two surgeries on the vanity level.

 

[1277255]

I am of the mindset that it is one's body, so they have freedom to do as they please. I find the concept of the watermelon ones to be excessive, dangerous and absolutely ridiculous looking and would never risk it myself.

The pain associated with having large heavy sacks of fat or fluid on your chest is no joke. Why the heck would you add more?

A reduction, as @Scarletbegonia said can give many women their lives (and physical health) back. I fully support reduction and any minimal risk that may come with it. I'm unaware of what risk may come with it beyond the generic surgical risks that come with any invasive surgery or sensation loss due to nerve damage or anything of that sort. I still think it can be worth it for a large number of women.

In the end, my opinion doesn't truly matter. Everyone is entitled to do what they wish with their own body, within reason and within the laws (no selling yourself for the cannibals ladies). I just simply feel that obsessively large implants will do more physical damage then they are worth in the long run.

 

[T_Lurch]

Definitely in agreement. It's your body and no one can tell you what to do with it. I fully support such a decision; I can't imagine going around with your back hurting all the time!

I'm sure most guys don't realize what it's like having a pair of 30 pound sandbags tethered to your chest. I guess the closest male equivalent might be having 30 pound testicles.

@Scarletbegonia I think it is a vanity thing most of the time. It usually seems to be the domain of porn stars and strip club dancers. Bigger is most certainly not always better.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Definitely in agreement. It's your body and no one can tell you what to do with it. I fully support such a decision; I can't imagine going around with your back hurting all the time!

I'm sure most guys don't realize what it's like having a pair of 30 pound sandbags tethered to your chest. I guess the closest male equivalent might be having 30 pound testicles.

@Scarletbegonia I think it is a vanity thing most of the time. It usually seems to be the domain of porn stars and strip club dancers. Bigger is most certainly not always better.

I absolutely understand if someone wants to “feel normal.”
I understand post mastectomy reconstruction.
I can almost understand someone wanting to defy gravity, and have noticeable breasts that don5 require support.
But I do not understand extremes, vanity or doing it for a partner.

 

[T_Lurch]

I absolutely understand if someone wants to “feel normal.”
I understand post mastectomy reconstruction.
I can almost understand someone wanting to defy gravity, and have noticeable breasts that don5 require support.
But I do not understand extremes, vanity or doing it for a partner.

Absolutely. If you've got a partner pressuring you to do this, it's time to reevaluate your choice in partners.

 

[Holly Doors]

Hi, extreme argumentation of breasts kinda looks silly to me personally especially the deliberately unnatural beach ball look, I already commented in a thread yesterday saying I'm not a great believer of any surgery unless it's for genuine medical reasons anyway.
I have natural very large breasts, when I was growing up I hated the unwanted attention and at the time thought I'd end up getting a reduction. As I got older I kinda accepted my body for what it is and my mindset changed, I was always told to buy the best bras I could afford and that they fitted correctly, supported my breasts from underneath from the band and not put all the weight on the shoulders. I heeded that advice and touch wood rarely have suffered with any significant back pain or discomfort, I cannot stress enough the importance of having professional regular fittings and wearing a bra that fits correctly and supports the underbust.
I totally get the issue of expense where bras are concerned, they're expensive. I'm currently measured at a 40KK (UK size) which can easily be a £100 +++ and yes they wear out a lot faster having to hold larger breasts, I've had wires break, wires poke out, even had bras tear or break, unfortunately that comes with the territory.
My thoughts to date is that I wouldn't want a reduction as I don't have any significant problems with my breasts, I'm middle aged, had three children and the difference is apparent. Gravity and age takes it's toll, I rely a lot more on my bras for much needed support etc. They've also developed some more pronounced veins which a couple of the larger ones can be a little nagging from time to time or itchy if you like, that can be annoying and I have had thoughts about getting them seen to. I also may consider a lift in the future if it was really necessary but right now I'm happy with my body, I'm just gone see how it goes over the next few years.
My advice to your wife would be (if she doesn't already) get a professional fitting by someone who deals in underwear for larger busted women, our bodies change and a bra that fits properly and supports in the right places is so important. X

 

[MickeyLee]

Would I get implants? Probably not, unless the issue was reconstruction. Even then, not sure I would have any work done.

Reduction? If my boobs were bigger, would so be on my possibility list. Earlier in my life I considered a reduction cuz I wasn't particularly thrilled with the hyper femininity associated with larger breasts.

I do have several lady friends, and one dude guy with gynecomastia, who opted for reduction. All are very happy with the results. The dude guy had something akin to titty lipo to save feeling and reduce scarring. As far as I recall, the ladies opted for the around the nipple and anchor scar approach. The dude guy maintained all nipple sensitivity. One lady had a reduced sensation for a few months but returned to normal shortly there after. One lady had an increase in sensitivity from the lack of tension on the nipple areola complex and less friction over all from repositioning.

 

[T_Lurch]

Would I get implants? Probably not, unless the issue was reconstruction. Even then, not sure I would have any work done.

Reduction? If my boobs were bigger, would so be on my possibility list. Earlier in my life I considered a reduction cuz I wasn't particularly thrilled with the hyper femininity associated with larger breasts.

I do have several lady friends, and one dude guy with gynecomastia, who opted for reduction. All are very happy with the results. The dude guy had something akin to titty lipo to save feeling and reduce scarring. As far as I recall, the ladies opted for the around the nipple and anchor scar approach. The dude guy maintained all nipple sensitivity. One lady had a reduced sensation for a few months but returned to normal shortly there after. One lady had an increase in sensitivity from the lack of tension on the nipple areola complex and less friction over all from repositioning.

From what I'm reading on here, it doesn't sound like there's very many cons to reduction surgery.

@Holly Doors It is sound advice for sure from what I'm seeing. I asked my wife about just eschewing bras altogether, but she told me that they do provide support when needed and help them sag less in the long run. Hers naturally hang low and she hates that, wishing hers were perkier. I've told her that I love hers regardless.

A bit off topic, but: I always believed bras were a patriarchal thing, created to cover up the nipples and tied to puritanical impulses. I never really thought of them as being practically useful, but I learn new things every day!

 

[Holly Doors]

From what I'm reading on here, it doesn't sound like there's very many cons to reduction surgery.

@Holly Doors It is sound advice for sure from what I'm seeing. I asked my wife about just eschewing bras altogether, but she told me that they do provide support when needed and help them sag less in the long run. Hers naturally hang low and she hates that, wishing hers were perkier. I've told her that I love hers regardless.

A bit off topic, but: I always believed bras were a patriarchal thing, created to cover up the nipples and tied to puritanical impulses. I never really thought of them as being practically useful, but I learn new things every day!

Absolutely hunni they very much have a practical purpose especially for those of us with large breasts, yes it's a nice feeling when the bra comes off but for me anyway I need the support unless the clothing I'm wearing offers support. Braless in a loose fitting top if fine if I'm not doing a great deal or just sat with my boobies in my lap, but just going about every day tasks braless in a lose top for any length of time and the skin where they meet my chest gets sore due to the weight of my breasts pulling on it, never mind that they have a mind of their own unleashed and will be flopping and spilling all over the damn place. Ultimately they need support of some kind whether that's a good bra or a top which offers support unless you're not moving around much.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

A bit off topic, but: I always believed bras were a patriarchal thing, created to cover up the nipples and tied to puritanical impulses. I never really thought of them as being practically useful, but I learn new things every day!

going strictly with brassieres, they were actually a move toward women’s freedom. Before, boned corsets were the norm...and since they affected more than the breasts, even Flatty Patty had to don one In the name of fashion...and in a you must be married culture, you paid at least lip service to fashion. No matter your own style.
To free the rib cage was a deliriously joyful thing.
depending on source, the first modern bra was either in 1889 or 1914. Heromine Cadolle, and Mary Phelps Jacobs, respectively. (Various supports pre boning existed in antiquity and up to the design of the corset are also bras, some supportive, some decorative.)
The 1889 version was basically a two piece corset: what we’d call a waist trainer today and a proto brassiere, or corsolette.
The 1914 version was two handkerchiefs and ribbon. functionally, I lean toward this as the point it became a bra and not a two piece corset (which didn’t catch on so well).

 

[LaFemme]

Bras are useful. Free breasts bounce, stretching tissue. Can’t imagine exercising without a sports bra on. That support is good. Yes, there’s a trade off if you have large breasts - straps digging in, getting stabbed with underwire, back aches and migraines from carrying the weight. But the support is good.

That being said, I never wear a bra at home. Let the breasts stretch. Sometimes the weight of my breasts themselves cause soreness. So a sports bra it is.

 

[EllieP]

The only downside I had to my own breast reduction surgery was that I did not have it done earlier. I have permanent nerve damage to my neck and back from waiting so long. I live with it now, but it's always there.

And like Scarlet said, it does give women their life back, or in my case, life period. I always thought myself and active person, but it was nothing in comparison to what I do now. And I've been living with the extra weight since my early 20s.

My surgeon was top notch and the scar tissue is all but gone. Quickest weight loss program I've ever gone on, and the most expensive. But it was so worth it. No complications at all.

I'm still not small by any means, but I'm not cartoonishly top heavy anymore.

 

[T_Lurch]

The only downside I had to my own breast reduction surgery was that I did not have it done earlier. I have permanent nerve damage to my neck and back from waiting so long. I live with it now, but it's always there.

And like Scarlet said, it does give women their life back, or in my case, life period. I always thought myself and active person, but it was nothing in comparison to what I do now. And I've been living with the extra weight since my early 20s.

My surgeon was top notch and the scar tissue is all but gone. Quickest weight loss program I've ever gone on, and the most expensive. But it was so worth it. No complications at all.

I'm still not small by any means, but I'm not cartoonishly top heavy anymore.

I would say it's well worth it.

My wife has spoken about it and I completely support it. The only problem is affording it. Maybe some day.....

I totally appreciate all the input given here by everyone, by the way!

 

[EllieP]

I would say it's well worth it.

My wife has spoken about it and I completely support it. The only problem is affording it. Maybe some day.....

I totally appreciate all the input given here by everyone, by the way!

You may want to check with your health insurance. Mine covered the entire procedure when it was deemed medically necessary. I had to go through the rigors with an orthopedist and neurologist, but they all gave me the green light.