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So there is a similar thread, but they don't like you talking about the truth on it. So this thread is an alternate. Post what you think is relevant, but justify your thinking and please reference sources when you can. The purpose of this thread is to share the example for those who like thing sort of thing and to share what we know about motivations, so that we all understand each other a little better. Please do not single out other contributors. No spamming.