Inquiring about the "normal" penis...

[ypharoh]

Hello, everyone. I'm new here, but I have been consumed by my insecurity of my penis for a long time. It won't seem to go away and I think it primarily is because I don't really know what other men's penises look like compared to mine. All I have is what I see on the pornos but they clearly are not representative of the general population. So, awhile ago, I did research and determined that I have a pretty average penis.

Then, I started to go out with a girl and I asked her what she thought about my penis compared to other guys. At first, I got positive feedback... but not regarding my length. She said she likes the girth and the way it looks, if I'm paraphrasing. She wouldn't compare my length to other guys she's been with. Then, one time she brought up a story about her being with a guy with a "thick 9.5 inch penis" and that kind of made me freak out because that puts me at a lower end of her personal sample. She apparently never measured it with a ruler, but apparently she knows somehow. She said the smallest she's been with is a 5-incher. I thought the real average was like 5.5 inches, so it's odd for her smallest to be only 5 inches.

I guess my question is the following: is the average penis really 5.5 inches? One should note that a Reddit user called "KnowsPenisesWell" goes through the flaws of many penis length studies and shows that the average is NOT 5 inches. Not by a longshot. The average bone-pressed is likely 6.2 inches, with some studies showing 6.5-6.7 inches bone-pressed. If the average is apparently 5 as they say it is, why is it that when I'm looking at B/G tapes posted by OnlyFans girls, there are no 5's or 4's. They seem to be at least 6-7 inches, at least, and these are not exactly male pornstars on OnlyFans.

If I am 6 inches bone-pressed, does that make me below average? I just put my length and girth on the CalcSD calculator and it returned 80 percentile for both, but somehow I don't believe a 6x5 inch penis is 80 percentile. What is the truth?

 

[VIIby5]

I have long had my doubts about these studies also. I'm supposedly 90+ percentile (7"x 5") in some of those studies but my real world experiences hasn't reflected that. My actual experience leans more towards being on the smaller side. My gut feeling is also that average at least for a white guy is closer to 6.5- 7" BPEL X 5.25" -5.5" EG.

 

[ypharoh]

I have long had my doubts about these studies also. I'm supposedly 90+ percentile (7"x 5") in some of those studies but my real world experiences hasn't reflected that. My actual experience leans more towards being on the smaller side. My gut feeling is also that average at least for a white guy is closer to 6.5- 7" BPEL X 5.25" -5.5" EG.

What experience do you mean? How do you know other men's erect penises? I still wouldn't say 7 is on the small side. When you say 7, you mean bp or nbp?

 

[ypharoh]

I have long had my doubts about these studies also. I'm supposedly 90+ percentile (7"x 5") in some of those studies but my real world experiences hasn't reflected that. My actual experience leans more towards being on the smaller side. My gut feeling is also that average at least for a white guy is closer to 6.5- 7" BPEL X 5.25" -5.5" EG.

Also, a couple points of evidence that I think are relevant come from Herbenick and Osterberg. I feel like Osterberg's study is overlooked and I haven't seen it in many discussions on penis size. He measures the average nbp penis to be 5.5 inches. Herbenick does a survey of penis size, whiche we should assume is nbp because it's measured for condom use, and gets 5.5 inches. If the average nbp is 5.5 inches and pubic fat pads are about an inch, the average BPEL should be roughly 6.5 inches. So I somewhat agree with you, but I do concede that *could* be an overestimate. The average BPEL should be at minimum 6 inches.

 

[VIIby5]

What experience do you mean? How do you know other men's erect penises? I still wouldn't say 7 is on the small side. When you say 7, you mean bp or nbp?

7" BP . I have had my own experiences with women that seemed to indicate I was on the smaller side in their eyes. Plus I have asked numerous gay guys here about their experiences. A significant amount have told me that 7" is far from unusual and so common that it could be seen as nearly average. A few here straight up told me my dick looks average. Unfortunately for many average is considered small.

 

[deleted75853]

7" BP . I have had my own experiences with women that seemed to indicate I was on the smaller side in their eyes. Plus I have asked numerous gay guys here about their experiences. A significant amount have told me that 7" is far from unusual and so common that it could be seen as nearly average. A few here straight up told me my dick looks average. Unfortunately for many average is considered small.

I think your dick is above average.

 

[VIIby5]

I think your dick is above average.

Thanks. I have my doubts about that though. Unfortunately for some women even above average is still considerded substandard.

 

[deleted75853]

Thanks. I have my doubts about that though. Unfortunately for some women even above average is still considerded

I guess I’m the odd man out. I could care less that “average” is. Or what others think based on visual appearance. Maybe they need to have it in their throat or other orifice, then decide on the perfect size based off how it feels.

 

[ypharoh]

7" BP . I have had my own experiences with women that seemed to indicate I was on the smaller side in their eyes. Plus I have asked numerous gay guys here about their experiences. A significant amount have told me that 7" is far from unusual and so common that it could be seen as nearly average. A few here straight up told me my dick looks average. Unfortunately for many average is considered small.

Well, what is it non-bone-pressed. That matters more because that's what women are actually looking at. I can tell you my non-bone-pressed varies. If I am supine, it can get to 5.5 inches. If I am sitting, I can get it to 6 inches. And my bone-pressed can max out at roughly 6.3 inches. And yes, I agree that many people have the attitude that average is substandard. Nobody wants to be average. You tell someone you are 5' 9" or that your SAT score is 1500 (back when SAT had its writing section) or that your KD on Call of Duty is about 1.00, you're not going to get positive reactions- even though technically those are all "average". Even above-average traits can be deemed inferior...

 

[VIIby5]

Well, what is it non-bone-pressed. That matters more because that's what women are actually looking at. I can tell you my non-bone-pressed varies. If I am supine, it can get to 5.5 inches. If I am sitting, I can get it to 6 inches. And my bone-pressed can max out at roughly 6.3 inches. And yes, I agree that many people have the attitude that average is substandard. Nobody wants to be average. You tell someone you are 5' 9" or that your SAT score is 1500 (back when SAT had its writing section) or that your KD on Call of Duty is about 1.00, you're not going to get positive reactions- even though technically those are all "average". Even above-average traits can be deemed inferior...

Only 6" NBP. Over 7" BP.

90+ percentile. LOL.

 

[BigAl9]

If you have YouTube you might check out a noted urologist from Germany. He has the results of several studies made within recent years. I think that you will find the results of these studies interesting.

 

[hzs3fg]

If you have YouTube you might check out a noted urologist from Germany. He has the results of several studies made within recent years. I think that you will find the results of these studies interesting.

Not a lot to go on here...

 

[BigAl9]

The site to which I referred earlier is the "Uro Channel. "

 

[Greco-Roman]

From my experience of porn and having a decent eye for judging the size of things, the average is probably closer to 5 inches than 5.5 even. I see lots of people, in porn or real life claiming 6 inches, but they look closer to 5 inches when you actually see there dick, so this skews the results.

Lots of people from 3-5.75 inches are claiming 6 inches, because it’s considered acceptable for some reason. Probably because of the Kinsey studies, which where self measured and not completely accurate.

So for me, 5 to 5.25 inches.

 

[ypharoh]

The site to which I referred earlier is the "Uro Channel. "

I watched a couple videos and I am already troubled by his lack of distinction between bone-pressed and bone-pressed. Also, he doesn't go too much into the methods and only gives numbers, it seems.

 

[trulybig]

Penises have gotten much bigger with the internet. If you look at old porn or pictures the majority of men were much smaller than now (based on what's internet available). So, how's that possible?

 

[Cum_is_Great]

Penises have gotten much bigger with the internet. If you look at old porn or pictures the majority of men were much smaller than now (based on what's internet available). So, how's that possible?

Because in the past you only saw pics of men who went out of their way to find a photographer or porn studio to take pics of his dick. Since the chances are low that they have a big dick anyway, you only saw more average sized men. Now that everyone literally has a high def camera, all the men who have a big dick and know they can show it off, post their pics online.

Basically it's just massive survivorship bias.

All the average sized dicks and small dicks don't get attention. so they get no clicks, likes, shares. Only the huge ones do. So now all that's in circulation are the huge dicks.

Also its a numbers thing, People can't fathom large numbers. Show someone a literal Million pics of unique guys with huge dicks, people are gonna think they are so common. But if we were to have posted the literal 2 BILLION other men with average cocks and shuffled the million within, suddenly it's no where near as common.

But of course as with the aformentioned survivorship bias, we never see the 2 billion. Only the 1 million. So that's "all of them" so therefore must be "The real average"

 

[ypharoh]

Because in the past you only saw pics of men who went out of their way to find a photographer or porn studio to take pics of his dick. Since the chances are low that they have a big dick anyway, you only saw more average sized men. Now that everyone literally has a high def camera, all the men who have a big dick and know they can show it off, post their pics online.

Basically it's just massive survivorship bias.

All the average sized dicks and small dicks don't get attention. so they get no clicks, likes, shares. Only the huge ones do. So now all that's in circulation are the huge dicks.

Also its a numbers thing, People can't fathom large numbers. Show someone a literal Million pics of unique guys with huge dicks, people are gonna think they are so common. But if we were to have posted the literal 2 BILLION other men with average cocks and shuffled the million within, suddenly it's no where near as common.

But of course as with the aformentioned survivorship bias, we never see the 2 billion. Only the 1 million. So that's "all of them" so therefore must be "The real average"

I go on chaturbate a lot and i think there's probably less selection bias on there and I still see massive cocks on there. Go on the couples section of chaturbate and see for yourself. Also, onlyfans has b/g content in which a girl has sex with a guy. I'm sure there is less selection bias on there and still I see women with dudes that have big cocks. I don't think the "porn cock" is that rare as we are led to believe. Maybe, there are a lot of big men out there.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

I go on chaturbate a lot and i think there's probably less selection bias on there and I still see massive cocks on there. Go on the couples section of chaturbate and see for yourself. Also, onlyfans has b/g content in which a girl has sex with a guy. I'm sure there is less selection bias on there and still I see women with dudes that have big cocks. I don't think the "porn cock" is that rare as we are led to believe. Maybe, there are a lot of big men out there.

There ARE a lot of big men out there. That's the survivorship bias im talking about. Check the men tab and then click the last page. See hoe many average men dont even get a click because they arent big. Not even small. Just not big. It didnt lower the amount of massive dicks you are seeing but its literally a fraction to all the other men you're filting out or not even aware existing.

But you probably didnt even think about them because they literally were off your radar. As people click the sexy models they get pushed closer to the front page. How is that anywhere NEAR not biased?

I don't mean to say any of this to make fun of or belittle youm i sincerely hope that's not the tone that comes off in my posts. But this is very common biases we make all the time and you literally did it without realizing it. It seems reasonable enough but the mere fact of using data on any type of porn site makes results biased because of how they program the site and algorithm to generate more clicks akd views. It's the best example of how survivorship bias works.

 

[explosionerection]

Hello, everyone. I'm new here, but I have been consumed by my insecurity of my penis for a long time. It won't seem to go away and I think it primarily is because I don't really know what other men's penises look like compared to mine. All I have is what I see on the pornos but they clearly are not representative of the general population. So, awhile ago, I did research and determined that I have a pretty average penis.

Then, I started to go out with a girl and I asked her what she thought about my penis compared to other guys. At first, I got positive feedback... but not regarding my length. She said she likes the girth and the way it looks, if I'm paraphrasing. She wouldn't compare my length to other guys she's been with. Then, one time she brought up a story about her being with a guy with a "thick 9.5 inch penis" and that kind of made me freak out because that puts me at a lower end of her personal sample. She apparently never measured it with a ruler, but apparently she knows somehow. She said the smallest she's been with is a 5-incher. I thought the real average was like 5.5 inches, so it's odd for her smallest to be only 5 inches.

I guess my question is the following: is the average penis really 5.5 inches? One should note that a Reddit user called "KnowsPenisesWell" goes through the flaws of many penis length studies and shows that the average is NOT 5 inches. Not by a longshot. The average bone-pressed is likely 6.2 inches, with some studies showing 6.5-6.7 inches bone-pressed. If the average is apparently 5 as they say it is, why is it that when I'm looking at B/G tapes posted by OnlyFans girls, there are no 5's or 4's. They seem to be at least 6-7 inches, at least, and these are not exactly male pornstars on OnlyFans.

If I am 6 inches bone-pressed, does that make me below average? I just put my length and girth on the CalcSD calculator and it returned 80 percentile for both, but somehow I don't believe a 6x5 inch penis is 80 percentile. What is the truth?

Yes, there has been multiple studies on penis size and every single serious one showed an average between 5 and 5.5.. So with that in mind you're actually above average. I wouldn't say you have a big dick, but you definitely don't have to worry about your size. It truly does it's job if you know how to use it.