Musings on a cheating wife

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My wife is a pretty well-rounded human being. She's smart and loyal, and she knows right from wrong. We've been together a long time and we've built a nice life for ourselves: Nice house, nice kids, nice friends. We're healthy, financially stable, and dare I say it: we're very content with our lot. We love each other, and I can honestly say that despite her faults, I practically worship the ground she walks on.

But she is a human being and she is a woman. She comes with certain biological imperatives which, despite our higher executive functions, are built in to our DNA. The firmware hasn't changed since before caveman times. Sure, those biological imperatives have been relegated to the depths of our subconscious, but they still exist and they influence how we walk (literally), and talk, and interact with our fellow human beings. There might be a thousand other influences coming from more evolved parts of our brains, but those fundamentals are still there, casting their votes.

She isn't even aware of the influence her biology has on her behaviour. And in the majority of her day to day interactions they don't really make any material difference. But the influences are present and they can never be entirely overridden. She probably doesn't even know that her heart rate increases slightly more, or slightly less, depending on the particular delivery man we have dropping off an Amazon parcel that week. She doesn't know that the way she walks might imperceptibly change depending on where she is in her menstrual cycle, and who she is walking past. When a sleazy taxi driver pays her an overenthusiastic compliment, her intellect and emotional intelligence tell her that it's a lecherous guy making a pass at her, and it triggers disgust: she politely bats away the compliment and alters her body language to demonstrate a lack of interest, and she is successful in deterring him. But she doesn't notice that the same compliment from an attractive man might trigger a different response. And although her intellect, loyalty, and moral values might still tell her to politely bat him away (etc), there is still some part of her subconscious that is promoting a different course of action. And who knows? Maybe that tiny nudge means that she appears that tiny little bit more approachable. Her attempt at an unambiguous brush off doesn't quite hit the target: her no doesn't mean no.

I cannot imagine a situation where my wife's intellect, loyalty, morals, and emotions would allow her to make a decision to cheat on me. The very idea of it upsets me: I'd feel rejected, unworthy, and betrayed. However I can imagine a situation in which these tiny, imperceptible influences could stack up. No individual nudge ever alerts her consciousness that she is acting on base instinct and her executive function is never called upon to kick in and intervene. Instead, her rational brain works to justify her actions by some other explanation which wouldn't compromise her values. And a man who is suitably determined, or subtle enough in his advances could continue to pull at the tiny thread of hope that will always exist in my wife's fundamental biology.

I'm not talking about a 0-100mph sprint to the finish line. I'm talking about every baby step along the way. She never knows when it's gone too far - or even if she does think, at some point, that it's gone too far, then she doesn't quite understand how she got there, nor how to retrace her steps back to who she really is. If she had the perspective of an outsider, she might realise how inapproprate, or even pathetic, her behaviour is becoming. But inside her mind she is telling herself a different story: she's just making polite conversation with somebody; she always sits like this; it's too hot for a jacket; it's ok for her to talk to other adults; he's not hitting on her he's just being friendly; yes he's attractive but that's not why she's talking to him.

I want to explore this further. I love chatting about this topic and related topics. It helps me get my own thoughts in order and I hope that I can continue to develop and refine these thought in future pieces of writing. So if you'd like to chat, send messages, or just make a comment on what I'm writing then I would really be glad to hear from you.

If you made it this far then thank you!
 
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My wife is smart & loyal. We've been together a long time. Healthy, financially stable and very content with our lot. We love each other. But she is a woman, unaware of the influence her biology has on her behaviour. When a sleazy taxi driver pays her an overenthusiastic compliment, her intellect tells her it's a lecherous guy making a pass. She doesn't notice the same compliment from an attractive man might trigger a different response. Although her loyalty might tell her to politely bat him away (etc), there's part of her subconscious that is promoting a different course of action. Who knows? Maybe her no doesn't mean no. I cannot imagine her cheating. The idea of it upsets me: I'd feel rejected, unworthy, and betrayed. However I imagine a determined man, or subtle enough in his advances could get her to. If you'd like to comment I'd be glad to hear from you.
Hi Lentils. What you exhibited is a very sexist confirmation bias. It doesn't matter that wifey is smart, loyal etc. and so forth. Just being female meant she can't be trusted and must be labelled a "cheating wife". You also failed to distinguish between compliments and off comments. Definition of compliment = (noun) "A polite expression of praise or admiration". It doesn't matter how attractive the giver of a compliment is. At least your intelligent wife accepted and dealt with compliments appropriately. But lacking her intellect - and being an insecure suspicious male chauvinist - you are triggered whenever your wife receives compliments from attractive men. If you can't trust and love her anymore - due to her being female - then divorce her and marry a man.
 
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She isn't even aware of the influence her biology has on her behaviour.

I agree but you aren't aware either. All humans are instinctual animals. We are not consciously aware of most of them especially those which are culturally repressed.

Our species does NOT instinctually form lifetime exclusive pair bonds. That's a human social/cultural construct. That's why everything your suspect of your wife you suspect of yourself and so does she.

Welcome to the human race.
 
Been with married women, they cheat for all sorts of reasons. Some of those are the same as reasons a lot of guys have some of them are different. But they do cheat, and you can’t always predict who it’ll be and who it won’t be. We’re just human.
 
My wife is a pretty well-rounded human being. She's smart and loyal, and she knows right from wrong. We've been together a long time and we've built a nice life for ourselves: Nice house, nice kids, nice friends. We're healthy, financially stable, and dare I say it: we're very content with our lot. We love each other, and I can honestly say that despite her faults, I practically worship the ground she walks on.

But she is a human being and she is a woman. She comes with certain biological imperatives which, despite our higher executive functions, are built in to our DNA. The firmware hasn't changed since before caveman times. Sure, those biological imperatives have been relegated to the depths of our subconscious, but they still exist and they influence how we walk (literally), and talk, and interact with our fellow human beings. There might be a thousand other influences coming from more evolved parts of our brains, but those fundamentals are still there, casting their votes.

She isn't even aware of the influence her biology has on her behaviour. And in the majority of her day to day interactions they don't really make any material difference. But the influences are present and they can never be entirely overridden. She probably doesn't even know that her heart rate increases slightly more, or slightly less, depending on the particular delivery man we have dropping off an Amazon parcel that week. She doesn't know that the way she walks might imperceptibly change depending on where she is in her menstrual cycle, and who she is walking past. When a sleazy taxi driver pays her an overenthusiastic compliment, her intellect and emotional intelligence tell her that it's a lecherous guy making a pass at her, and it triggers disgust: she politely bats away the compliment and alters her body language to demonstrate a lack of interest, and she is successful in deterring him. But she doesn't notice that the same compliment from an attractive man might trigger a different response. And although her intellect, loyalty, and moral values might still tell her to politely bat him away (etc), there is still some part of her subconscious that is promoting a different course of action. And who knows? Maybe that tiny nudge means that she appears that tiny little bit more approachable. Her attempt at an unambiguous brush off doesn't quite hit the target: her no doesn't mean no.

I cannot imagine a situation where my wife's intellect, loyalty, morals, and emotions would allow her to make a decision to cheat on me. The very idea of it upsets me: I'd feel rejected, unworthy, and betrayed. However I can imagine a situation in which these tiny, imperceptible influences could stack up. No individual nudge ever alerts her consciousness that she is acting on base instinct and her executive function is never called upon to kick in and intervene. Instead, her rational brain works to justify her actions by some other explanation which wouldn't compromise her values. And a man who is suitably determined, or subtle enough in his advances could continue to pull at the tiny thread of hope that will always exist in my wife's fundamental biology.

I'm not talking about a 0-100mph sprint to the finish line. I'm talking about every baby step along the way. She never knows when it's gone too far - or even if she does think, at some point, that it's gone too far, then she doesn't quite understand how she got there, nor how to retrace her steps back to who she really is. If she had the perspective of an outsider, she might realise how inapproprate, or even pathetic, her behaviour is becoming. But inside her mind she is telling herself a different story: she's just making polite conversation with somebody; she always sits like this; it's too hot for a jacket; it's ok for her to talk to other adults; he's not hitting on her he's just being friendly; yes he's attractive but that's not why she's talking to him.

I want to explore this further. I love chatting about this topic and related topics. It helps me get my own thoughts in order and I hope that I can continue to develop and refine these thought in future pieces of writing. So if you'd like to chat, send messages, or just make a comment on what I'm writing then I would really be glad to hear from you.

If you made it this far then thank you!
It's not just women who cheat....People cheat for all kinds of reasons. An encyclopedia on why people commit infidelity can be created.

I've been with married women before. And as it was stated before, they cheat for all kinds of reasons. And it's impossible to suss out when you first start dating who will go rogue on you. That being said, people have various levels of promiscuity. One lady who I dated claimed that she was a virgin (at 29) and would stay so until she got married. On the opposite spectrum, I've been out with others and their eyeballs have the tendency to wander.

The vast majority of married women are very very discreet about having a dalliance. Others are just shameless. One memorable time, when I started going out with my now partner and some lady in her neighborhood at the time comes up and says to her "wow, that's your new boyfriend, he's so handsome." We just walked away shaking our heads???
 
But it's this kind of higher level of functioning, reason, and self-control that separates us from the animals, and allowed humans to evolve from "caveman times." Bottom line, if a woman wants to stay faithful sexually, she can and will. No amount of "biology" will overrule that.
 
The way it reads, I would say she is very aware of what she is doing and she tells you she's not to shut you up.

She probably enjoys the feeling of being desirable. That she is still visible. Men are the same. But it doesn't mean she is looking to cheat. It doesn't mean she is disloyal or unhappy.

Being controlling will be the thing that poisons the relationship. Nobody wants to be a prisoner.

In time she will reach an age where she will become invisible so just be happy that she is with you and appreciate her even when she does fade. Hopefully she will do the same for you when your time comes.
 
Biology isn't an excuse. It's the reality of our instinctual nature.

If our species instinctually formed exclusive lifetime pair bonds we'd all be bonded for life to the first person with whom we hooked up. We'd never look elsewhere, fantasize, read romantic or fan fiction or watch romantic movies or porn let alone actually cheat.

The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable.

Science rules. Social and cultural constructs require violence to enforce like the death penalty for any kind of sexual activity outside of an exclusive pair bond like heterosexual marriage.
 
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With a title like “Musings on a Cheating Wife,” I have to admit I was expecting something juicy or at least a salacious story. Instead, it feels more like a thought experiment with a lot of overthinking baked in. So, let’s get to the point — is there any actual proof that your wife is cheating, or is this all just hypothetical? I mean, if there’s something concrete — texts, suspicious behavior, lies — then we’re talking about a real issue. But from what you’ve shared, it seems like you’re just speculating about what might happen because of subtle, unconscious reactions.

True, we are all affected by biology in ways we don’t always notice. Sure, her heart rate might change slightly depending on who’s around, but that’s not just a “woman thing.” That’s a human thing. These small, subconscious nudges happen to everyone. It’s like lingering on an Instagram post without knowing why — but it doesn’t mean you’re about to cheat on your partner. If we’re calling these unconscious reactions cheating, I’m honestly disgusted. That’s just biology, not betrayal.

What counts is how we consciously respond to these influences. Just like we all face these internal nudges, we also have the ability to set boundaries and make decisions that reflect our values. It’s like driving a Tesla on autopilot: yeah, it might dodge a pothole, but you’re still in control of the car. Your wife is still making conscious choices based on her loyalty and your relationship, not sleepwalking into infidelity.

Now, if there’s real proof — something tangible — let’s hear it. But if this is all mental gymnastics, maybe the issue isn’t with her behavior, but more about your own insecurities. Instead of speculating on her subconscious reactions, which we all have, it’s better to check in on how you’re feeling and why these thoughts are coming up in the first place. At the end of the day, we all need to be careful about projecting our fears onto others. Let’s not focus on the speck in someone else’s eye while ignoring our own issues.

Appreciate the conversation — hope this helps level things out a bit.
 
The discussion of cheating never ends well here. Maybe she enjoys a bit of subliminal flirtation?

The part about her behavior changes between the good looking guy vs the creep (in her eye) is as old as human existence. Don't overthink it. There's a good chance that you (like most of us) do the same without even realizing it. I can tell you that at 66... I'm now on the creep spectrum and censor my behavior.
 
My wife is a pretty well-rounded human being. She's smart and loyal, and she knows right from wrong. We've been together a long time and we've built a nice life for ourselves: Nice house, nice kids, nice friends. We're healthy, financially stable, and dare I say it: we're very content with our lot. We love each other, and I can honestly say that despite her faults, I practically worship the ground she walks on.

But she is a human being and she is a woman. She comes with certain biological imperatives which, despite our higher executive functions, are built in to our DNA. The firmware hasn't changed since before caveman times. Sure, those biological imperatives have been relegated to the depths of our subconscious, but they still exist and they influence how we walk (literally), and talk, and interact with our fellow human beings. There might be a thousand other influences coming from more evolved parts of our brains, but those fundamentals are still there, casting their votes.

She isn't even aware of the influence her biology has on her behaviour. And in the majority of her day to day interactions they don't really make any material difference. But the influences are present and they can never be entirely overridden. She probably doesn't even know that her heart rate increases slightly more, or slightly less, depending on the particular delivery man we have dropping off an Amazon parcel that week. She doesn't know that the way she walks might imperceptibly change depending on where she is in her menstrual cycle, and who she is walking past. When a sleazy taxi driver pays her an overenthusiastic compliment, her intellect and emotional intelligence tell her that it's a lecherous guy making a pass at her, and it triggers disgust: she politely bats away the compliment and alters her body language to demonstrate a lack of interest, and she is successful in deterring him. But she doesn't notice that the same compliment from an attractive man might trigger a different response. And although her intellect, loyalty, and moral values might still tell her to politely bat him away (etc), there is still some part of her subconscious that is promoting a different course of action. And who knows? Maybe that tiny nudge means that she appears that tiny little bit more approachable. Her attempt at an unambiguous brush off doesn't quite hit the target: her no doesn't mean no.

I cannot imagine a situation where my wife's intellect, loyalty, morals, and emotions would allow her to make a decision to cheat on me. The very idea of it upsets me: I'd feel rejected, unworthy, and betrayed. However I can imagine a situation in which these tiny, imperceptible influences could stack up. No individual nudge ever alerts her consciousness that she is acting on base instinct and her executive function is never called upon to kick in and intervene. Instead, her rational brain works to justify her actions by some other explanation which wouldn't compromise her values. And a man who is suitably determined, or subtle enough in his advances could continue to pull at the tiny thread of hope that will always exist in my wife's fundamental biology.

I'm not talking about a 0-100mph sprint to the finish line. I'm talking about every baby step along the way. She never knows when it's gone too far - or even if she does think, at some point, that it's gone too far, then she doesn't quite understand how she got there, nor how to retrace her steps back to who she really is. If she had the perspective of an outsider, she might realise how inapproprate, or even pathetic, her behaviour is becoming. But inside her mind she is telling herself a different story: she's just making polite conversation with somebody; she always sits like this; it's too hot for a jacket; it's ok for her to talk to other adults; he's not hitting on her he's just being friendly; yes he's attractive but that's not why she's talking to him.

I want to explore this further. I love chatting about this topic and related topics. It helps me get my own thoughts in order and I hope that I can continue to develop and refine these thought in future pieces of writing. So if you'd like to chat, send messages, or just make a comment on what I'm writing then I would really be glad to hear from you.

If you made it this far then thank you!
It appears you have nothing about which to worry, but want to worry to satisfy a personal prurient interest and need that interest fed with speculation. The question is why?