Poz breed fetish, yay or nay?

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I recently talked to a guy on Grindr and he confessed to me that he poz and undetected. I am a nice person in general so I told him that he’s great and it didn’t really matter to me.

Out of sudden, he said that he would love to breed me and give me his toxic load. I was shocked and had no words to respond.

Is that just a fetish or someone actually wants to dump viral loads into other people?
 
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I would run away from this person immediately. I found this attitude toxic and insensitive towards others. I would also be shocked.

This is an absolute "no". This is why people should use condoms: because sexually transmitted diseases are out there and people are not always empathetic and responsible towards others. In order to ask for empathy, people need to be empathetic first and this regrettable attitude only reinforces stereotypes.
 
Some people legit find it sexually pleasurable to infect others, so unless you want to have HIV because some guy finds it hot that you do, maybe avoid this stuff
 
Alright. I'm HIV negative. However, I'm a Gay Black man, and my category/profile group is more keen/common to be HIV positive judging by statistics and reports. So I have to add my two cents.

OP, your profile says Vietnam, so this might cause some friction/contradictions, as I'm in North America/United States, and laws are completely different here.

But to my knowledge, (there are so many terms and secret words for this) Bug Chasing/Gift Giving/Poz Breeding etc. (Someone who is HIV positive, [or has full blown AIDS virus in some cases], who is open to transmit their virus to another person, with the other person currently being HIV negative, and with both parties being in agreement/understanding of what they are doing and thusly having unprotected/unsafe/bareback sex. With the end result of the HIV negative person, now being diagnosed positive. Possibly this is done by guys who are very sexually promiscuous, to eliminate the worry to find guys who are clean/HIV negative, or receiving a shock HIV positive diagnosis they weren't expecting.) is a federal crime here. It is a federal law that anyone who is HIV positive to have unprotected sex (protected sex doesn't usually fall under this rule, and people who are HIV positive usually in many jurisdictions, do not have to disclose their status for protected/condom sex, although me personally I feel someone who is HIV positive should inform their partner regardless but this is what the law states) without disclosing their HIV positive status first, and/or engaging in sex to purposefully transmit the virus; is illegal. Whether people actually get into trouble in the end, meh, but that's the law here in United States.

Okay, so having said that, I'm going to not agree with this. I'm HIV negative, but I wouldn't outright judge a guy at all who was positive. (Although yes there is stigma with Poz guys in the gay community, but people fucking suck, so forget them) But a guy who willingly wishes to make guys who are negative, positive, (even if the negative guys are content with this) is very concerning, and imo OP, is not a guy you should mess with.

Next, supposing you do agree to this, from what I heard, guys who engage in Bug Chasing/Gift Giving/Breeding, (I'm sure it's not the same in all cases but just saying usually) yes you will inevitably become positive, but your viral load counts (as the person breeding you also was engaging in the Bug Chasing/Breeding circuit with other guys causing the virus to act in a dangerous way) might cause you to experience symptoms faster, possibly get you sicker, you will have a much more difficult time battling the HIV virus etc. and this is not good. (as you guys are intentionally causing the HIV virus to multiple and spread etc.)

In addition, it could be that persons viral load is very low/they are undetectable, so you have a very, very low risk and chance of getting the virus. So all of this would be redundant, foolish anyways.

Also, as time goes on, (although HIV stigma is very much present) and we hopefully race to find a cure for HIV/AIDS sometime, the HIV virus is being studied and examined more, and the virus (although still very much present) is little by little being expurgated, and this is shown as we have things like Prep/Pre Prophylactic Exposure preparation medications (pills that remove the virus if you came into contact with it days/weeks/months ago etc.) and god forbid you are diagnosed HIV Positive, unlike in the 80s/90s, although it's not something you would want to have, it's something you don't have to let define who you are as a person, and there is very good HIV medications and treatment now. So yeah.

Finally, usually guys who advertise they want to Bug Chase/Gift Give/Breed, are also down to do other very scary, unmentionable acts/services. Which include possibly things I can't mention on LPSG, like body mutilation, torture, illegal stuff etc. Again, just being blunt and honest, but yeah.

But that's just what I feel OP. Thank you. :)
 
Alright. I'm HIV negative. However, I'm a Gay Black man, and my category/profile group is more keen/common to be HIV positive judging by statistics and reports. So I have to add my two cents.

OP, your profile says Vietnam, so this might cause some friction/contradictions, as I'm in North America/United States, and laws are completely different here.

But to my knowledge, (there are so many terms and secret words for this) Bug Chasing/Gift Giving/Poz Breeding etc. (Someone who is HIV positive, [or has full blown AIDS virus in some cases], who is open to transmit their virus to another person, with the other person currently being HIV negative, and with both parties being in agreement/understanding of what they are doing and thusly having unprotected/unsafe/bareback sex. With the end result of the HIV negative person, now being diagnosed positive. Possibly this is done by guys who are very sexually promiscuous, to eliminate the worry to find guys who are clean/HIV negative, or receiving a shock HIV positive diagnosis they weren't expecting.) is a federal crime here. It is a federal law that anyone who is HIV positive to have unprotected sex (protected sex doesn't usually fall under this rule, and people who are HIV positive usually in many jurisdictions, do not have to disclose their status for protected/condom sex, although me personally I feel someone who is HIV positive should inform their partner regardless but this is what the law states) without disclosing their HIV positive status first, and/or engaging in sex to purposefully transmit the virus; is illegal. Whether people actually get into trouble in the end, meh, but that's the law here in United States.

Okay, so having said that, I'm going to not agree with this. I'm HIV negative, but I wouldn't outright judge a guy at all who was positive. (Although yes there is stigma with Poz guys in the gay community, but people fucking suck, so forget them) But a guy who willingly wishes to make guys who are negative, positive, (even if the negative guys are content with this) is very concerning, and imo OP, is not a guy you should mess with.

Next, supposing you do agree to this, from what I heard, guys who engage in Bug Chasing/Gift Giving/Breeding, (I'm sure it's not the same in all cases but just saying usually) yes you will inevitably become positive, but your viral load counts (as the person breeding you also was engaging in the Bug Chasing/Breeding circuit with other guys causing the virus to act in a dangerous way) might cause you to experience symptoms faster, possibly get you sicker, you will have a much more difficult time battling the HIV virus etc. and this is not good. (as you guys are intentionally causing the HIV virus to multiple and spread etc.)

In addition, it could be that persons viral load is very low/they are undetectable, so you have a very, very low risk and chance of getting the virus. So all of this would be redundant, foolish anyways.

Also, as time goes on, (although HIV stigma is very much present) and we hopefully race to find a cure for HIV/AIDS sometime, the HIV virus is being studied and examined more, and the virus (although still very much present) is little by little being expurgated, and this is shown as we have things like Prep/Pre Prophylactic Exposure preparation medications (pills that remove the virus if you came into contact with it days/weeks/months ago etc.) and god forbid you are diagnosed HIV Positive, unlike in the 80s/90s, although it's not something you would want to have, it's something you don't have to let define who you are as a person, and there is very good HIV medications and treatment now. So yeah.

Finally, usually guys who advertise they want to Bug Chase/Gift Give/Breed, are also down to do other very scary, unmentionable acts/services. Which include possibly things I can't mention on LPSG, like body mutilation, torture, illegal stuff etc. Again, just being blunt and honest, but yeah.

But that's just what I feel OP. Thank you. :)
I do not judge anyone who is HIV positive, nor do I discriminate against anyone who is, especially since there are several ways of infection, such as through blood transfusions. However, I completely condemn anyone who intentionally transmits the virus to another person who is not aware that the transmitter is HIV positive. This is a federal crime in the United States and should be treated harshly as such, because I see it as attempted murder or murder if the person dies as a result of the virus.

The person, unaware that they have contracted the virus, can infect another persons and will not take the medication, and will therefore have intense symptoms and complications. I think this is inhumane and cruel. In my opinion, it is part of sexual etiquette to comment on one's health status, because a person should have the opportunity to not engage in sexual acts with someone with some type of sexually transmitted disease. That is why I condemn bareback sex, which I consider irresponsible and highly risky.

I believe that taking responsibility for own actions and choices is part of sexual maturity. It is a matter of social responsibility and solidarity. When I have a cold, I treat myself and let the people I come into contact with know that I have a cold, and I don't feel offended if they prefer not to have contact with me during this period, either because they have low immunity or because they simply don't want to expose themselves to possible infection. Mentally mature people don't take things personally when it comes to health issues that involve their lives and the lives of others.
 
A lot of people like bareback sex and cumdumping. If he's undetectable there's no more risk than taking a load from someone who's negative. I'd question the tastefulness of the phrase "toxic load", though.
This is 100% accurate. He knows he is (in all probabilities) not going to infect someone, so it is fetish for him and "bughchasers".
 
I recently talked to a guy on Grindr and he confessed to me that he poz and undetected. I am a nice person in general so I told him that he’s great and it didn’t really matter to me.

Out of sudden, he said that he would love to breed me and give me his toxic load. I was shocked and had no words to respond.

Is that just a fetish or someone actually wants to dump viral loads into other people?

Run.

First of all, I don't trust strangers who say they are undetectable. Protect yourself first by using prep, doxypep, and condoms. ALWAYS USE CONDOMS. Syphilis, and Super Gonorrhea are real. What about Herpes Simplex Type 2? These can all have lifelong consequences.

I *love* being a cum dump, bred by train of hot men, but unless I can control most variables in this encounter (which I can never do completely) it's not worth it. A moment of ecstasy for a week, month, or lifetime of added suffering. That's not balanced.

But this is ALL besides the point, I said RUN because people with this fetish want to infect you in the pursuit of pleasure. That is what gets them their high. There is no glory in disease. Out of all the gay fetishes I've come across, none are more sick and sociopathic than this one. Literally I'll take coprophilia over this shit (pun!).

Certain words like "toxic load" should immediately alert you that this is not a person you want to sleep with. Especially if you are HIV Negative.

If you are in a monogamous relationship with someone who is HIV+ that you trust, you can play with the idea of this fetish. But even then, why? If you want an element of danger get choked or fisted like everyone else.
 
This is 100% accurate. He knows he is (in all probabilities) not going to infect someone, so it is fetish for him and "bughchasers".
Except you don’t unfortunately know that… this guy might be lying about being undetectable. Or it might be just “talking shit that makes him horny” kind of a fetish. Either way it sounds toxic, psychotic and he should probably talk to a therapist about these really dark fantasies of his. I believe you wouldn’t just shrug your shoulders and ignore it if someone told you they were fantasizing about shooting you or assaulting/ki**ing you in another way, or would you? 🤔
 
then people like you are the problem


Your quote was kind of wrong to a certain point..
If a poz guy tells another guy he is poz then they have sex then it’s that guys choice

With me I’ve had guys tell me they were poz after sex.. even after me swallowing their loads and taking loads couple times in my ass .. and I’ve been tested hundreds of times over the years ( I was extremely active during the aids crisis) and still neg
 
ALWAYS USE CONDOMS. Syphilis, and Super Gonorrhea are real. What about Herpes Simplex Type 2?

Just so you know, while condoms provide some protection against syphilis and HSV-2, both of these are spread by skin contact with a lesion, and the lesions aren't always just on the penis. So condoms don't provide complete protection here.
 
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