Are trolling me ? I never said anything about that. In fact I remember our conversation on that being about other language you used on this thread.
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Are trolling me ? I never said anything about that. In fact I remember our conversation on that being about other language you used on this thread.What ?
You must really miss our conversations huh ? It’s okay Ark. Who’s making up things about you ? How are you certain Sargon was referring to you specifically ? Do you want to go back to discussing some of the things you’ve said on this thread. Don’t forget I’ve read this thread from the beginning. I know the things you’ve said. I’m not sure you want to go there again.I’m still offering $1000 cash to anyone who can name any actual issue that I have with minorities. No one has yet to take me up on these kinds of challenges.
@Nigel Atkinson and @sargon20 are especially welcome to apply, since they are the most vocal about it, and insist that I have racist tendencies.
@Nigel Atkinson and @sargon20 are especially welcome to apply, since they are the most vocal about it, and insist that I have racist tendencies.
You sure ? Get my money ready then. You want to talk about that time you insinuated that people would feel more comfortable walking into an alley full of white people vs black.
I suggest you read that more carefully. I didn’t say that.
I said white people generally feel more comfortable around white people. Asian people generally feel more comfortable around Asian people. And black people generally feel more comfortable.
this is a well documented fact. Like attracts like. No one ever said that’s the way it HAS to be. That’s just the way people naturally gravitate.
That also doesn’t mean that I have any issue with minorities, lol
I see nothing in that quote that indicates that I have an issue or problem with minorities.
And I, myself, wouldn’t feel any more or less comfortable walking down an alley and meeting someone of any particular race. Sorry bro.
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“If you were to take a poll of...say..10,000 people, all of various races, ethnicities, backgrounds, genders, etc. and pose them this question:
"Youre in a dark alley all by yourself. Would you feel safer seeing a group of white men walking towards you? Or a group of black men walking towards you."
This isn’t a indication ? But who am I fooling lol. You wouldn’t admit it anyway nor would you admit to any of the other comments you’ve made.
no, it wasn’t an indication. It’s a social experiment, that’s already been hashed out, to confirm the hypotheses that Humans naturally group to get her with people that are “most like” them.
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Is it now ? Oh okay
now I’m curious... if you were to conduct such a poll, how do you think the results of that poll would turn out? And what does the result of that poll have to do with my alleged “problem/issue/challenge with minorities” that you are so convinced I have?
I don’t think those results would be anywhere near what you would expect them to be. I think you answered question with that one with the post I quoted.
Lol... I didn’t ask what you think I would expect them to be. I asked what YOU what expect them to be.
I’m trying to lead this conversation to a conclusion. Please answer this very direct question?
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Oh I believe you are lol, but you already provided the answer to your own question.
how can I provide an answer about what YOU think? I don’t know what YOU think. That’s why im asking YOU.
I know in your world, you like to pretend to be a mind reader and insert words into other peoples mouts in order to conveniently fit your narrative. But that’s not how it works in the real world.
so I’ll ask once again. How do YOU predict the results of such a poll would turn out if you were to conduct it. Your hypothesis—that’s all I’m asking for.
The answer isn’t in what I think. the answer is in what you’ve already wrote. I already told what I think and that is that it wouldn’t be the results you have in your head. You keep railing against this which proves my assertion correct.
how can you know that if you don’t know the answer that’s in my head?
Why are we performing this stupid dance with words? Lol
clearly you’re afraid to make a prediction, so I’ll stop entertaining this topic with you, and allow you to try another one for the $1000. Next one you bring up, please don’t bring it up if you plan on chickening out.
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You already told everyone the answer in your head
. I’m not performing anything. You keep skirting around it. I already answered you. Mines was opposite of yours . If you don’t want to pay up just say so. Not like anyone was actually expecting you to do it. You’re sweating bullets over there aren’t you ?I'm coming in here pretty late but I just stumbled on this thread, and I found it to be pretty interesting. I've just had a read of the first few pages.
In case anyone wants an additional perspective (to this already messy and hotly debated thread lol), here're my thoughts:
In response to this question by @ArkNebradia: Why is finding one race/ethnicity generally attractive something that is unacceptable, while finding people of a certain height, body type... or Hell, even gender perfectly acceptable and normal? Still no one has even attempted to address that question, which is really the crux of this post.
In case anyone wants an additional perspective (to this already messy and hotly debated thread lol), here're my thoughts:
In response to this question by @ArkNebradia: Why is finding one race/ethnicity generally attractive something that is unacceptable, while finding people of a certain height, body type... or Hell, even gender perfectly acceptable and normal? Still no one has even attempted to address that question, which is really the crux of this post.
- After thinking more about this, I think I've tentatively concluded there isn't such a fundamental difference between these categories. However, one thing to be mindful of (especially if you want to interact with people with understanding and compassion) is the strong emotional responses people often have when it comes to both culture and sex. Notably, one's cultural background provides a strong sense of pride, belonging and identity-formation for a lot of people. In other words, our cultural identity - and the ideas, customs, and behaviours stemming from that culture - powerfully frame the way we see the world, and how others view us. Turning to sex, sex can be such an integral human experience and one that people often associate (whether for better or worse) with connection, self-worth and desirability. When sexual preference is disproportionally biased against a race, I can understand why a non-white person can internalise those experiences of rejection and undesirability and unfortunately feel shame, inadequacy and self-loathing. It can be particularly challenging when this is a part of your identity that can't be changed (nor should people want to), and it ultimately takes psychological growth and immense resilience to accept and not care about what others think (a classic example of minority stress). I know the same can apply for people who might be obese or extremely short, when faced with repeated rejection. What (if anything) to make of this? I'll get to that later below
- For example, here're a bunch of questions that I think illustrate my point regarding where a sexual preference for white guys might (partially) stem from: Is my attraction to white guys a product of living in a predominantly white society, where media representation depicts white people's lives and experiences as the typical, default narrative? Where advertisements often associate experiences of beauty and desirability with white actors? Where white protagonists are the individuals that develop romantic relationships in mainstream media? Where the people you interacted with growing up were mainly white, and in positions of power and respect? I think all of this combined is definitely a factor influencing one's formation of personal preferences. I also recognise that society over the past decade or two has strived to be more egalitarian when it comes to cultural representation as time has passed (which I suspect will subtly influence more younger people today to be more open-minded when it comes to sexual attraction and cultural preference). However, my point still stands: there's many established, unavoidable mechanisms of cultural transmission that gradually shape what we perceive as attractive. It's a more subtle position to take (racial preference isn't racist, although it is significantly influenced by a traditionally racist, prejudicial society) but I personally think it hits closer to the truth.
- To begin with, I'm definitely not going to suggest a person needs to suddenly have sex with all people they're not immediately attracted to. You'd have to be some kind of sexual Jesus Christ to be so giving and loving to everyone in that way, and it goes beyond what I think should be morally expected of anyone - after all, your bodily autonomy and consequent right to make decisions about what you do with it is important too. Having said that, I can also appreciate the argument that being more open-minded with your choice of sexual partners can be beneficial in quite a few ways (especially if you want to connect with a more diverse array of people with potentially different and interesting life experiences)
- On the other hand, I can see how a Grindr profile that says "Mostly attracted to other white guys" is, in my opinion, insensitive. It's like saying "Mostly attracted to other tall guys" or "Mostly attracted to other masc guys" (all categories conventionally judged by society as most attractive). Your words implicitly foreground this point, are visible to anyone reading your public profile, and make anyone who isn't part of that category feel excluded (and left with another reminder that they are statistically not as desirable to most people). It's fine to know what you sexually prefer regarding race, but I think the respectful and considerate thing to do is to leave it out of your profile. And even from an optics point of view, you also leave yourself open to being grouped together with people that actually are racist when writing a message of this kind (even when you include the qualifier "mostly"), even if this is an unfair category to box you in. For example, it's not hard to find past examples of people who've written "No Blacks, no Asians" (and when you talk to them appear to summarily dismiss and stereotype people from that race) or "Really into Black guys" (and then go on to dehumanisingly fetishise people of that race).
Just wanted to let you know that the part I bolden and underlined in your post has been discussed on this thread. If you read farther into the thread you’ll find it. I think you’ll like the deep discussion part of it.
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