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The obvious one is people who lie about what they post or post footage of other people and try to pass it off as themselves.

Second is people who insinuate that they show/do something when they don't and are purposefully vague when describing thier account/content. We've all seen a teser on Instagram where a guys crotch is covered with a sticker and you just know they're still wearing underwear underneath it.

Those who technically show what they say they would but in an unflattering way (bad angles, lighting, quality).

Guys who take breaks on thier Onlyfans but have no issues updating other social media. I know there isn't a requirement to post a certain number of times but there is an unspoken rule that a steady stream of content is expected when you pay for a subscription service.

Some won’t agree with this but guys who ask subscribers to like every post for a free video/picture. Likes should be an indicator of how good you page, not artificially inflated to try abd lure in new subscribers. It's not as bad as the other examples i've mentioned but i'd consider it a tame form of scamming the unaware.

Those are the main ones but i'm probably forgetting some others.
 

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The obvious one is people who lie about what they post or post footage of other people and try to pass it off as themselves.

Wouldn't people want to report this? I'd think that the ID requirements alone would get an account banned in a situation like this.

Second is people who insinuate that they show/do something when they don't and are purposefully vague when describing their account/content. We've all seen a teaser on Instagram where a guys crotch is covered with a sticker and you just know they're still wearing underwear underneath it.

Lammmmmmmeee lol

Those who technically show what they say they would but in an unflattering way (bad angles, lighting, quality).

Ok, this one might get some latitude - We are dealing with amateurs after all.

Guys who take breaks on thier Onlyfans but have no issues updating other social media. I know there isn't a requirement to post a certain number of times but there is an unspoken rule that a steady stream of content is expected when you pay for a subscription service.

I might call this an inconsistent update schedule. Mind you if I was running a platform like OF, I might start pausing sub charges if the accounts dont update within a certain threshold, so that they would have to toss *something* to the subscribers.

Some won’t agree with this but guys who ask subscribers to like every post for a free video/picture. Likes should be an indicator of how good you page, not artificially inflated to try abd lure in new subscribers. It's not as bad as the other examples i've mentioned but i'd consider it a tame form of scamming the unaware.

Again, a little gamey, but also someone who knows how to promote themselves also knows how to rally their following. IMO this is smart on the part of the performer. You see it on YouTube all the time.

Thoughts ?
 

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If you declare that there will be no nudity in your OF bio but still send out gated messages with captions suggesting otherwise, you're scamming.

If the photos and videos that people expect to find in an OF are all hidden behind a paywall, you're scamming. This doesn't apply to OF that are free to subscribe; it's assumed that you're signing up to see Instagram photos and need to pay for racier ones.

If you charge a high price for your OF but deliver middling content (IG reposts, purposefully low-quality videos, etc.), you're scamming. I consider you the OF equivalent of currency exchange kiosks.
I agree with what you said. I just wanted to add to it. Some creators post good content on the main page and specific type videos through PPV. I feel like that is not a scam, but some creators only post insta photos and then “nudes” in PPV
 
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Not at all. As long as they don’t insinuate they are, I don’t care. I believe they should all be upfront in the bio what they do or do not show.
This. I've literally told creators to do this, seen they received me message and yet they refuse to make any changes cause they know the insinuation is profitable
 
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There is a weak debate that onlyfans is not just about nudes or intended for porn ...
BUT then consider why ONLYFANS was set up as an ADULT website - it has ALWAYS been age restricted for over 18's .....so if its NOT about porn WHY would it be age restricted ??? .....and WHY join an ADULT website at all ?

Basically THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF SCAMMER -
the first is the one that thinks people should pay money just to see the SAME stuff they post on instagram ....and they dont clearly state on the Bio that their profile is Non Nude . This type of scammer plays the innocent and dosent think they did anything wrong - but then ask : why make an onlyfans in the first place - thats like going in a bar all the time and never drinking alcohol .

The other type of scammer posts all the clickbait adverts on twitter and instagram - the teaser pics with emojis covering their junk - then once you subscribe you find out they had speedos on underneath .... These will often have quite high subscription prices AND try to sell you individual content at super ridiculous prices on top ....and the quality of what you paid for is often below expectation - Many will also take the money and then block you .

onlyfans is an age restricted website for a reason ,
 

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The obvious one is people who lie about what they post or post footage of other people and try to pass it off as themselves.

Second is people who insinuate that they show/do something when they don't and are purposefully vague when describing thier account/content. We've all seen a teser on Instagram where a guys crotch is covered with a sticker and you just know they're still wearing underwear underneath it.

Those who technically show what they say they would but in an unflattering way (bad angles, lighting, quality).

Guys who take breaks on thier Onlyfans but have no issues updating other social media. I know there isn't a requirement to post a certain number of times but there is an unspoken rule that a steady stream of content is expected when you pay for a subscription service.

Some won’t agree with this but guys who ask subscribers to like every post for a free video/picture. Likes should be an indicator of how good you page, not artificially inflated to try abd lure in new subscribers. It's not as bad as the other examples i've mentioned but i'd consider it a tame form of scamming the unaware.

Those are the main ones but i'm probably forgetting some others.
Another 'trick' i was told about is by setting their subscription high and selling extra content at higher prices also Impacts on their rating percentage .....i wouldnt trust the 'top 3% of creators' line either - since ive known of people get in the top 3% in a week of joining yet have barely any subscribers - i think onlyfans falsely set this percentage thing to give incentives to users .
 

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I call someone a scammer for lying about the product they are selling or not providing the product when its paid for. For example, promising "exclusive" or "premium" content and not posting it. Or claiming they are posting content on Twitter but really haven't posted anything. Implying that if you tip you will get more content but don't provide it. The dreaded only sells in the DM but has a high subscription price would count for me as well.
 
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Another 'trick' i was told about is by setting their subscription high and selling extra content at higher prices also Impacts on their rating percentage .....i wouldnt trust the 'top 3% of creators' line either - since ive known of people get in the top 3% in a week of joining yet have barely any subscribers - i think onlyfans falsely set this percentage thing to give incentives to users .

That's true. From reading about it, it looks like everyone with an account counts as a "creator". The vast majority then have no subscribers. This means that those who post and have some subscribers are considered the top because unlike the millions of others, they actually have a subscriber or two.
 
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That's true. From reading about it, it looks like everyone with an account counts as a "creator". The vast majority then have no subscribers. This means that those who post and have some subscribers are considered the top because unlike the millions of others, they actually have a subscriber or two.
yeah im sure the % percentage ratings are done by a bot - totally fake and not based on anything real .
 

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My definition of scamming or a scammer is basically when a creator or artist say they will do one thing and end up doing something close but not the whole shebang

No names but one creator was posting on his twitter DAILY about how his onlyfans was blowing up and was showing teasers and everything. Go to sub to him and last post was almost 2 weeks ago... To me that is just trying to get people to sub to you and doing nothing. I don't understand why put in all the work on one platform and not the other which is where you make your money.

I will say the word scammer gets thrown around a lot and I don't think it always fits. I think a lot of it is just disgruntle fat ass trolls that didn't get something for free. (but that's just my opinion)
 

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All the accounts that just post teasers as content to buy PPV and spam advertising other OF which are the majority at this point or at least it feels like it, regardless of small accounts or porn stars
 
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All the accounts that just post teasers as content to buy PPV and spam advertising other OF which are the majority at this point or at least it feels like it, regardless of small accounts or porn stars
One thing about this, is that every pay site has a member-path (or member life cycle). It's the way that e-commerce works online. Even Amazon does this by showing you other products that you might be interested in. In any subscription scenario, there is always another tier with a value added (think Grindr Xtra, vs Grindr Unlimited).

I think that what I am seeing here is that there is not a lot of consistency between how perfumers go about putting this together, and some rely on PPV / or custom requests and PV's to really make their earnings. I dont think that this is a scam, but more how one performer goes about it vs another.
 

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One thing about this, is that every pay site has a member-path (or member life cycle). It's the way that e-commerce works online. Even Amazon does this by showing you other products that you might be interested in. In any subscription scenario, there is always another tier with a value added (think Grindr Xtra, vs Grindr Unlimited).

I think that what I am seeing here is that there is not a lot of consistency between how perfumers go about putting this together, and some rely on PPV / or custom requests and PV's to really make their earnings. I dont think that this is a scam, but more how one performer goes about it vs another.

***Putting this in a reply, because it's a digression, and I dont want cooro thinking im going off ;)

This has not come up in this thread really, but one thing that I notice people complaining about a lot on LPSG is that some performers aren't going all out on what their fans want. I just reviewed a lot of posts about a very popular performer and one or two people were really put off by the fact that this person wasnt doing duo content or hardcore. This person is essentially a solo model and they are doing things the way that they want. This is basically a free market and it is in no way a scam if someone has a type of product they are sticking with. Just because someone wants to see them suck a dick / get fucked / have their feet eaten, doesnt mean they ever will offer that. Sorry, but move on to the next model if you're not getting what you want. Same kind of goes for people who complain that the content stays the same over time. Even if they are a 1 trick pony, as long as they aren't being deceptive about there being something else (not more: *else*) coming up, then there's nothing wrong with that.

Some poeople seem to get caught up in their entitlement and lose site of the fact that performers are human people who have their own ideas and limits, and that's just what they happen to offer.
 

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My definition of scamming or a scammer is basically when a creator or artist say they will do one thing and end up doing something close but not the whole shebang

No names but one creator was posting on his twitter DAILY about how his onlyfans was blowing up and was showing teasers and everything. Go to sub to him and last post was almost 2 weeks ago... To me that is just trying to get people to sub to you and doing nothing. I don't understand why put in all the work on one platform and not the other which is where you make your money.

I will say the word scammer gets thrown around a lot and I don't think it always fits. I think a lot of it is just disgruntle fat ass trolls that didn't get something for free. (but that's just my opinion)
I see the neglected release schedule come up a lot. One thing I wish is that OF would pause sub charges on accounts that slip on their schedule. It would protect people who subscribe from being charged for nothing, but would also incentivize the performers to keep up a commitment to their followers, or keep things fair if that person wants to take a break from making content, without having to cancel everyone.
 
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***Putting this in a reply, because it's a digression, and I dont want cooro thinking im going off ;)

This has not come up in this thread really, but one thing that I notice people complaining about a lot on LPSG is that some performers aren't going all out on what their fans want. I just reviewed a lot of posts about a very popular performer and one or two people were really put off by the fact that this person wasnt doing duo content or hardcore. This person is essentially a solo model and they are doing things the way that they want. This is basically a free market and it is in no way a scam if someone has a type of product they are sticking with. Just because someone wants to see them suck a dick / get fucked / have their feet eaten, doesnt mean they ever will offer that. Sorry, but move on to the next model if you're not getting what you want. Same kind of goes for people who complain that the content stays the same over time. Even if they are a 1 trick pony, as long as they aren't being deceptive about there being something else (not more: *else*) coming up, then there's nothing wrong with that.

Some poeople seem to get caught up in their entitlement and lose site of the fact that performers are human people who have their own ideas and limits, and that's just what they happen to offer.

But that's not what I mean the models I was talking about are doing hardcore stuff but only as PPV and the only thing they post are teasers for said PPV or advertising for other OF for me that is somewhat of a scam like why would you charge for basically for trailers and ads. If it would be a good balance it would be fine even if the OC would be the smallest part of the post but that's hardly the case at all. I sub to quite some models cause "top 0.5%" cause I thought that must mean something but nope OC was only provided via PPV. And people being mad at models for not crossing their limit are just sad lol
 

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But that's not what I mean the models I was talking about are doing hardcore stuff but only as PPV and the only thing they post are teasers for said PPV or advertising for other OF for me that is somewhat of a scam like why would you charge for basically for trailers and ads. If it would be a good balance it would be fine even if the OC would be the smallest part of the post but that's hardly the case at all. I sub to quite some models cause "top 0.5%" cause I thought that must mean something but nope OC was only provided via PPV. And people being mad at models for not crossing their limit are just sad lol
Ohhh I see!!

This is the same thing that pay sites do with tube sites, etc... but those videos are put out freely to promote the brand and the scene.

It's smart of them to hold back the hardcore content into an extra, but if they are charging a sub for just previews that are NOT engaging unto themselves, that's a little stingy. People should always get something if they are paying IMO. Not just paying for advertisements. Maybe not a scam if they're up front about it, but definitely stingy