Turing Test for models?

[metrodorus]

Hey, on several occasions at OF, it gradually becomes clear to me as I'm messaging a model that I'm actually communicating with some service or person who has been hired to do messages for the model. Has anyone figured out a way to determine that right away?

 

[maximus2007]

Hey, on several occasions at OF, it gradually becomes clear to me as I'm messaging a model that I'm actually communicating with some service or person who has been hired to do messages for the model. Has anyone figured out a way to determine that right away?

Nope. I wish I could for sure. But I will tell you what I feel are tell tale signs: 1.) weird syntax or spelling mistakes, 2.) a little too available (round the clock messaging.) only a small percentage of OF creators actually treat it like a job and stay on top of messages, 3.) overly aggressive, insistent messaging, 4.) constant ppv sendouts. Wyatt Cushman (well known overall scammer) among his many sins, is an example of a creator that almost definitely uses an agency. Some are blatantly telling people they're using an agency without telling people they're speaking to an agency; like whatever that operation that James Maxxy is attached to. Even newer creators like Leo Gold seem to be doing it.

 

[metrodorus]

Nope. I wish I could for sure. But I will tell you what I feel are tell tale signs: 1.) weird syntax or spelling mistakes, 2.) a little too available (round the clock messaging.) only a small percentage of OF creators actually treat it like a job and stay on top of messages, 3.) overly aggressive, insistent messaging, 4.) constant ppv sendouts. Wyatt Cushman (well known overall scammer) among his many sins, is an example of a creator that almost definitely uses an agency. Some are blatantly telling people they're using an agency without telling people they're speaking to an agency; like whatever that operation that James Maxxy is attached to. Even newer creators like Leo Gold seem to be doing it.

I have had some really comic encounters with the people managing some models' OF accounts. The weirdest have been those with the people managing @Creeohdee's account, whose attempts at colloquial English are like hearing chalk screech on a blackboard. As they might say, lol! lmao!

I also find it amusing when two or more models post virtually the same thing simultaneoulsly because they are using the same managers who are recycling the same material for all the models they manage. A short while ago it was all about sending in more money to become a VIP subscriber. (Don't fall for that. It never works out as advertised.)

It also can be expensive. In the case of one model, the people managing his account apparently were taking in payments for requests for custom vids but they accepted way more than he could do. I may have lost a not insignificant amount of money on that one. I have finally concluded that you should never give models money upfront for anything unless you know them very well. Scams are common, and, even if the model is not a scammer, the models seldom are able to provide what they promise because of time constraints or whatever.

 

[maximus2007]

I have had some really comic encounters with the people managing some models' OF accounts. The weirdest have been those with the people managing @Creeohdee's account, whose attempts at colloquial English are like hearing chalk screech on a blackboard. As they might say, lol! lmao!

I also find it amusing when two or more models post virtually the same thing simultaneoulsly because they are using the same managers who are recycling the same material for all the models they manage. A short while ago it was all about sending in more money to become a VIP subscriber. (Don't fall for that. It never works out as advertised.)

It also can be expensive. In the case of one model, the people managing his account apparently were taking in payments for requests for custom vids but they accepted way more than he could do. I may have lost a not insignificant amount of money on that one. I have finally concluded that you should never give models money upfront for anything unless you know them very well. Scams are common, and, even if the model is not a scammer, the models seldom are able to provide what they promise because of time constraints or whatever.

All well said and accurate. I fell for the VIP sub scam sadly. And I too lost "a not insignificant amount of money" on that and other failed promises, specifically with Wyatt Cushman. This agency management thing seems to be a growing trend. Everyone from well established creators to new ones are doing it. As it spreads and more and more people realize it; I think they'll lose some of their long time subscribers, because that's a big part of paying for subscription and content. No one's going to go "all in" if they're chatting with a bot or some foreign contractor.

 

[metrodorus]

All well said and accurate. I fell for the VIP sub scam sadly. And I too lost "a not insignificant amount of money" on that and other failed promises, specifically with Wyatt Cushman. This agency management thing seems to be a growing trend. Everyone from well established creators to new ones are doing it. As it spreads and more and more people realize it; I think they'll lose some of their long time subscribers, because that's a big part of paying for subscription and content. No one's going to go "all in" if they're chatting with a bot or some foreign contractor.

Wyatt Cushman, eh? I had never heard of him. i checked him our

 

[maximus2007]

Got another one for you. "Wdym" or what do you mean. They use it a lot. At this point of my investigation , I'm actually wondering do any of them respond themselves or have they all farmed this to some texting service.

I would say this will end them, but there are some down bad guys out there who delude themselves into thinking they really are responding. Hell, I'm in there too so down bad myself; but not desperate and I have some respect for myself and I expect to get what I pay for.

 

[Ktrb]

The easiest way is definitely to look for round-the-clock messages, and flirty messages that are not specifically directed to you (do not show up as "priority").

No actual OF guy is posting "are you horny baby?", "wyd baby? I'm horny, how bout you?" or some variant thereof every 2.5 hours across all 24 hours of the day as a mass message.

I used to sub to icemanjb for a while - he was pretty good at accommodating customs I got from him, but was awful at timely messaging. Then all of a sudden his account started posting nearly hourly with "wyd?" "do you like my huge muscles?" "I'm just back from the gym, wyd baby?". Needless to say I don't sub to him anymore.