What do you american women think of donald trump?

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Hey, a non-sexual question; you can pick your jaws up off the floor later!

Basically, what do you American women think about Donald Trump and his conduct in his campaign for the presidency?

P.s. I've posted here and not in "political" because I was specifically curious about the female view...
 

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Interesting question. I don't particularly like many of the things he says, but I also find is opponent's penchant for dishonesty and instituting a pay-to-play system at the State Dept even more troubling. For the first time ever, I'll probably vote for a third party candidate.
 

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In the state of Florida it is impossible to register to vote without claiming a political party. As I identify neither as Democratic or Republican I had to choose from one of nine different Independent parties. My views are too varied to be defined by a preset platform.

Add to that my distaste for either candidate and it means I may be writing in a vote, which is also a rigged process in this state. I've done it before.

I don't believe any politician is more than 50% honest on the campaign trail, so I always take what they're saying with more than a grain of salt. However, I truly believe he is pandering to a base, and that's what concerns me so much. He may not be honest, but they are.

But like with both candidates, I believe a lot of people will hold their nose and pull the lever because they either hate the other one so much or because they feel it's their duty to their party. The latter is what I have the most problem with.
 

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It's really a shame that we have two terrible candidates.

I really do not know what to make of Trump. I always watched his Apprentice show and thought he was fair with women on it and even put some of the "celebrities" in their place for making disparaging comments about other women contestants. They say he treats women equally among his employees which is good, but I do worry about his temperament and some of the illogical things his says. It is a shame the media gave him so much attention early on or maybe we would have a better Republican choice.

I am equally bothered by some of my female friends who are eager to vote for Clinton just because she is a woman. I think that's as bad or worse than voting for a candidate just because of party affiliation. I think Clinton is a terrible person who is nothing more than an opportunist. I have a real issue with someone who says things about having compassion for rape victims then not only stays with her cheating husband but sets out to destroy the women her husband victimized.
 

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I'm a New Yorker. We're our own breed. No matter where I go, I'm still a New Yorker, and so is Donald Trump. Because of this I've seen how he's altered my skyline, and I've seen how he's trampled others in the way of that transformation, destroying what was best about their homes, without regard for community and expectations. I've seen where his unethical business dealings have damaged my home city, and the people therein. I've been a spectator to his many bankruptcies as they played out in local media, and highly doubt he is a billionaire even just on paper. It is my understanding that his boards essentially babysit him and give him allowances.

Back in the day, he supported universal health care, and I think I know why. When the concept was introduced to Nixon, the then president had his advisors explain it to him several times, after which he was recorded saying that there was a lot of money to be made if it was done just so. His administration immediately began to press for reform, but it was a dream that died with his disgraceful exit. Fast-forward to my lifetime, when then first lady Rodham Clinton began her extraordinary push for reform. At the time, ignorant of Nixon's history with the concept, I found it exciting and necessary. I now look back upon it with different perspective and a lot of skepticism. I'm jaded. I become more nonplussed, almost apoplectic when I consider the enthusiasm and zeal Trump once had for the idea. I don't know what's worse, his profiteering scheme, or his lying to his supporters about his position on the matter.

As a black woman it is not lost on me that Trump went to one of the whitest towns on his trail and asked for the black vote out of one corner of his mouth, and dismissed our issues regarding institutionalized and systemic racism out of the other. Disgusting.

He makes up lies? Well they all do, so that's besides the point. He makes up lies that are dangerous on a global level. That is not acceptable.

He campaigns on the notion that America needs a good, businessman, a self-made man at the helm. He neglects to admit that he is neither self made nor solvent. He could prove solvency, were he solvent, through revealing his taxes as is traditional. His claim that he can't because of auditing is disingenuous at best. The IRS already sees his tax forms. He would not at all be waiving his 5th ammendment rights by making public that which is already firmly evident to the government. It makes no sense.

He's a dispicable candidate. He says awkward things that imply sexual attraction to his favorite daughter. He says hateful and sexist things to and about women in his orbit. He lacks empathy and compassion. The only presidential trait he possesses is charisma, and that is simply not enough.

I would sooner consent to sex with an uncut, overripe pineapple than vote for Donald Trump.

The Democrats have not put forth an acceptable candidate either. I'll be casting my vote for Johnson. Libertarians can be a little scary for people in my racial, ethnic and socioeconomic groupings, but I believe the good outweighs the bad where this year's candidate is concerned. Besides, he was a Republican until very recently, and as a left-leaning centrist, moderate Republicans have never been too much trouble for me to accept.
 

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I'm a New Yorker. We're our own breed. No matter where I go, I'm still a New Yorker, and so is Donald Trump. Because of this I've seen how he's altered my skyline, and I've seen how he's trampled others in the way of that transformation, destroying what was best about their homes, without regard for community and expectations. I've seen where his unethical business dealings have damaged my home city, and the people therein. I've been a spectator to his many bankruptcies as they played out in local media, and highly doubt he is a billionaire even just on paper. It is my understanding that his boards essentially babysit him and give him allowances.

Back in the day, he supported universal health care, and I think I know why. When the concept was introduced to Nixon, the then president had his advisors explain it to him several times, after which he was recorded saying that there was a lot of money to be made if it was done just so. His administration immediately began to press for reform, but it was a dream that died with his disgraceful exit. Fast-forward to my lifetime, when then first lady Rodham Clinton began her extraordinary push for reform. At the time, ignorant of Nixon's history with the concept, I found it exciting and necessary. I now look back upon it with different perspective and a lot of skepticism. I'm jaded. I become more nonplussed, almost apoplectic when I consider the enthusiasm and zeal Trump once had for the idea. I don't know what's worse, his profiteering scheme, or his lying to his supporters about his position on the matter.

As a black woman it is not lost on me that Trump went to one of the whitest towns on his trail and asked for the black vote out of one corner of his mouth, and dismissed our issues regarding institutionalized and systemic racism out of the other. Disgusting.

He makes up lies? Well they all do, so that's besides the point. He makes up lies that are dangerous on a global level. That is not acceptable.

He campaigns on the notion that America needs a good, businessman, a self-made man at the helm. He neglects to admit that he is neither self made nor solvent. He could prove solvency, were he solvent, through revealing his taxes as is traditional. His claim that he can't because of auditing is disingenuous at best. The IRS already sees his tax forms. He would not at all be waiving his 5th ammendment rights by making public that which is already firmly evident to the government. It makes no sense.

He's a dispicable candidate. He says awkward things that imply sexual attraction to his favorite daughter. He says hateful and sexist things to and about women in his orbit. He lacks empathy and compassion. The only presidential trait he possesses is charisma, and that is simply not enough.

I would sooner consent to sex with an uncut, overripe pineapple than vote for Donald Trump.

The Democrats have not put forth an acceptable candidate either. I'll be casting my vote for Johnson. Libertarians can be a little scary for people in my racial, ethnic and socioeconomic groupings, but I believe the good outweighs the bad where this year's candidate is concerned. Besides, he was a Republican until very recently, and as a left-leaning centrist, moderate Republicans have never been too much trouble for me to accept.

Trumps habit of destroying communities and altering skylines hasn't been restrained to the US it seems.

He's been making headlines here in the UK in recent years for trying to force a Scottish farmer in Aberdeenshire to sell his farm to the Trump Organisation so Trump can press ahead with building a huge new luxury golf complex. The farmer, Michael Forbes, has been quoted as telling Trump to "shove his money up his arse" Ha!

When he repeatedly refused to sell his land to make way for the golf course, Trump tried several times to have him forcibly removed from his land and give him no choice but to sell. He held out however and Forbes became somewhat of a local hero in Aberdeen!


Back to the presidency Trump has received a hell of a lot of bad press in the UK but you don't really get a sense over here of what the grassroot feelings are in America about him, what he stands for, or especially about what he truly thinks, as a lot of it seems like hyperbole to get himself elected.

Hilary Clinton on the other hand gets a more favourable portrayal in our media, which I am certain has more to do with the UK media's intentions rather than what she truly is like and stands for, unfortunately.

The question sprung to mind in the first place when I saw today that Nigel Farage, an equally divisive character in British Politics (and the chap who spearheaded the UK campaign to leave the EU), spoke at a Trump rally yesterday. Quite amusing really, they are probably great friends and share many of the same beliefs.
 
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Donald Trump = Pumpkin Spice Hitler

more than voting for Hilary Clinton i am voting against Trump
anybody voting for a third party candidate might as well vote for Trump
I get that. In Canada, we have three major parties. I've had to vote for a party I didn't really care for in order to avoid 'throwing my vote away' on the party I believed in. I just couldn't let Harper win. :mad: Hence our hunky Prime Minister. (Yep, my vote did it!)

And as a Canadian....please, please, please don't let Trump win. The world is watching, worrying and more than a little shocked. And as a country that shares a border...it's a good thing we're shitting bricks. We're going to need them to build that wall between us if he wins. :(
 
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Mmmmmnope, I avoid the Politics section for a reason. Suffice it to say, I'd rather vote for Cthulhu than anyone else at this point. Why settle for a lesser evil?
 

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Mmmmmnope, I avoid the Politics section for a reason. Suffice it to say, I'd rather vote for Cthulhu than anyone else at this point. Why settle for a lesser evil?
Cuz one of them is gonna win. :( And Cthulhu isn't on the ballot...

.....or is he?

it's like choosing between a bullet to the head and poison.
there might be a cure for poison.

Again, I concur. We've all been drinking that type of poison for quite some time. It's survivable. The bullet, not so much.
 

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it's like choosing between a bullet to the head and poison.
there might be a cure for poison.
Not so, because of how our system works. I live inside the glass of Republican Kool-aid. But I'm registered to vote in a district that always, always, always votes Democrat. It's full of immigrants, legal and otherwise. They'll be voting for Hillary. They're with her. The electoral votes from my district are all but hers. My vote for Johnson /Weld only secures more funding for their party in the future. I don't want a two-party system; that's not what our country always had, and we don't need to stick to it now. My vote for a third party is a vote for more parties. When I was registered in NY, in the Northeast Bronx, I routinely voted for Nader. The Democrats always won my district by a landslide anyway. I wanted them to. But I wanted legitimacy for independent candidates and other parties too.
 
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The question sprung to mind in the first place when I saw today that Nigel Farage, an equally divisive character in British Politics (and the chap who spearheaded the UK campaign to leave the EU), spoke at a Trump rally yesterday. Quite amusing really, they are probably great friends and share many of the same beliefs.
The real Donald Trump is a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. All the nonsense he spouts now is pure strategy.
 

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Trump is second generation racist.
His father was lampooned by Woody Guthrie, after he tried to oust the family from Mermaid Ave. when he learned Marjorie was Jewish (making the kids Juews) and he didn't want that in his all white, all wasp housing.

This is a man who believes he can buy anything and anyone, and usually with someone else's money.
 

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I think I haven't heard enough solid policies from him to truly judge whether I would vote for him. On the other hand Hillary doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning this independent voter. There's a chance I'll be voting for no one this year.
 

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I think I haven't heard enough solid policies from him to truly judge whether I would vote for him. On the other hand Hillary doesn't stand a chance in hell of winning this independent voter. There's a chance I'll be voting for no one this year.

Who are the most popular independent parties in America?
 

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Who are the most popular independent parties in America?
Technically, that's an oxymoron. There is no such thing. You're either independent, or in a party, even a lesser known, seldom/never chosen party.

There are two independents in Congress. They are not affiliated with ANY party. Not even a little-known one.

Now. There are some parties called the Independent party. For example, I have voted for the Independence Party of New York. They are not Independent candidates; they belong to a political party called Independence. There's a difference.

Alternate parties I like enough to occasionally vote for:
Libertarian
Working families
Green party
Honorable mention: Modern Whig party. Love them; they NEVER have a fucking candidate.

Parties I kinda like, but have never considered voting for:
Marijuana party
Socialist party
Communist party

If your actually interested in alternate parties, Wikipedia has information for you:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States
 

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Here's the thing about not voting (and my darling Lacey, no this isn't directed at you. You just made me think of it.)

My mother came from a Communist country. No voting. No democracy. We used to send boxes of toilet paper, clothing with money sewed onto the hems, writing paper, thread, wax paper - anything we could and hope that not too much would get stolen by postal workers before my grandfather and other relatives would get the packages. They could use or trade the items for food.

I was in Cuba last year. I took soap, cotton balls, pens, crayons, writing books and other small items with me. Sugar packets, salt and pepper shakers. I gave them to people while on trips to towns. It takes three days pay to buy a bar of soap. Flour and sugar is given out monthly and rationed. No voting. Children only attend half day of school because they can't afford teachers. No democracy.

We live in countries where we have a voice. We get to vote. Maybe our candidates suck. But we get to choose. People die around the world for an opportunity that some of us just throw away.

I can't forget packing those boxes for relatives I never met. People standing in line for a loaf of bread. I'll never forget my mother telling me to get on my knees every day and thank God that I live in Canada, that I live in a democracy. I'll never forget the faces of those Cuban children and women crying over bars of soap and crayons.

I'll never forget to vote.
 

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Here's the thing about not voting (and my darling Lacey, no this isn't directed at you. You just made me think of it.)

My mother came from a Communist country. No voting. No democracy. We used to send boxes of toilet paper, clothing with money sewed onto the hems, writing paper, thread, wax paper - anything we could and hope that not too much would get stolen by postal workers before my grandfather and other relatives would get the packages. They could use or trade the items for food.

I was in Cuba last year. I took soap, cotton balls, pens, crayons, writing books and other small items with me. Sugar packets, salt and pepper shakers. I gave them to people while on trips to towns. It takes three days pay to buy a bar of soap. Flour and sugar is given out monthly and rationed. No voting. Children only attend half day of school because they can't afford teachers. No democracy.

We live in countries where we have a voice. We get to vote. Maybe our candidates suck. But we get to choose. People die around the world for an opportunity that some of us just throw away.

I can't forget packing those boxes for relatives I never met. People standing in line for a loaf of bread. I'll never forget my mother telling me to get on my knees every day and thank God that I live in Canada, that I live in a democracy. I'll never forget the faces of those Cuban children and women crying over bars of soap and crayons.

I'll never forget to vote.
My mother would roll in her grave if I declined to vote. She used to take me into the booth as soon as I could walk and have me pull the lever. There is no longer a lever to pull, and I have my doubts that my absentee ballot gets counted, but I make the effort. My mother would go postal poltergeist on my house.
 

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Interesting question. I don't particularly like many of the things he says, but I also find is opponent's penchant for dishonesty and instituting a pay-to-play system at the State Dept even more troubling. For the first time ever, I'll probably vote for a third party candidate.
He's a dickhead. And no--I don't mean that in a good way.
 
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