What if you are hot by your own standards?

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If you have the body type you find the most attractive in a partner or if you come reasonably close to it, what is it like? Do you often get turned on when seeing or touching your body? If your body didn't satisfy your own preferences, while others would still find it hot, would there be some sexual things you'd do differently compared to how you do them now?
 
Pure speculation with no real basis for them but, I would assume they would either just love themselves as a person and take more care of themselves, having less worry and anxiety about appearances in general...

Or possibly become conceited and arrogant, looking only for others who are rated highly as themselves and get lost in vanity. In general, people tend to try and date those of similar status so it makes sense though.

Looking forward to responses from others though for the real answer
 
I mean I do think I'm hot, but I think many different male body types are hot. There's not one perfect type for me. I'm all about the variety of the male form.

I suppose if I didn't find myself attractive, the only difference is that it would probably be harder to be alone if I'm going through a dry phase, but that's a guess. I'm not ashamed by autosexuality; it doesn't hurt my self-esteem much to not get laid, which seems to set me apart from my straight friends who tend to have their mental health a bit challenged when they're not getting laid. I suppose self-attraction and self-validation makes masturbation more pleasurable for me than it would for others. I don't think it would change sex with others since I'm not usually thinking about myself when I'm with another guy.
 
Or possibly become conceited and arrogant, looking only for others who are rated highly as themselves and get lost in vanity. In general, people tend to try and date those of similar status so it makes sense though.
I actually encountered this issue with my last long-term partner, who was a herculean muscle man who did laps in the bay everyday. However I don't know if it was a self-attraction with him, or if he was just harder on himself and set a higher standard on himself (sometimes vanity is about not finding yourself attractive enough). He would struggle with himself a lot if he fell off his routine at all or gained any weight, but worse, he would also be hard on me if I was getting out of shape, and get on my case if I was gaining weight. I definitely didn't like that. He also worked more on muscle strength than flexibility; he couldn't touch the middle of his back and he couldn't cross his legs when sitting down. Also he was impossible to cook for because he was constantly flipping his dietary choices, but he would still cheat on his own volition if it wasn't my cooking. He wouldn't touch my cooking if I had used butter or pork or salt, but he would still treat himself to ice cream lathered in maple syrup. He had odd double standards.

Anyway that was very disillusioning about the fantasy of being with a muscular man. Now I find looser body types like dad bods and even chubby bois to be the most enticing, because that signifies that the person is less rigid, more okay with themselves, and living more sensuously and pleasurably than someone who's seriousness over physical discipline gets in the way of him kicking back and enjoying the fruits of life.
 
I hope I'm understanding the topic correctly, and I apologize in advance if I misunderstood, but from the sounds of it, you're asking if there is a problem with finding yourself beautiful, or "hot", because you meet the standards of beauty that uphold for others, correct?

Well, if that is what you're asking I have one word for you: Balance. Most people don't have it, and because of that, most people find themselves in trouble. If you don't have enough self-esteem, self-love, self-respect or self-assurance, you will, either consciously or unconsciously, seek it out in others. You will become dependent on someone else to validate you in the ways that you do not validate yourself. This is problematic because oftentimes you will find yourself in a toxic relationship with someone who recognizes that insecurity within you and will exploit it to their own benefit. They will use and abuse you because they know that they can, and that all it will take for you to come running back to them is a half-assed apology and some flowers that they bought on clearance. Lying, cheating and manipulating will be a commonplace in your relationship because you lack the ability to see your own beauty and self-worth, which is why you latch on to these douchebag people for the simple fact that they will call you pretty from time to time.

On the flip side, having too much confidence, love and self-esteem can also be a problem because it is a breeding ground for narcissism and vanity. Let me be clear, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with seeing beauty in yourself. There is NOTHING wrong with seeing your own worth. It only becomes a problem when you lose too much of your grip on modesty and you start to believe that you are God's gift the world. At that point, your ego becomes hyperactive and you will start to experience an almost psychopathic sense of over-importence in yourself. Ironically, even in the case of narcissism (having too much confidence), you still have an excessive need for admiration from your peers. However, contrary to the case of insecurity (not having enough confidence), narcissists often have a total disregard for the feelings of others and will often verbally abuse those whom they perceive are inferior to them. Narcissists also struggle with criticism because they believe they are already " the best" and therefore have no room for improvement. Thus, any critical advice or opinion that is shared with them is often perceived as an insult or a personal attack. Lastly, narcissists often have an over-inflated sense of entitlement. Going back to the "God's gift to the world", they believe that this world is their personal playground and they are therefore entitled to everything and everyone they desire. These individuals will often overstep boundaries because they feel like boundaries don't apply to them and will quickly call someone "too sensitive" or "melodramatic" when they are called out for their bullshit. Narcissists are known for victim-blaming and turning a situation around on the other person as they try and convince said person that the real problem lies within them and not the other way around because in their warp perceptions of reality, they can do no wrong.

Just a little FYI: Narcissistic personality disorder is common mental illness amongst most social media influencers. YouTubers, TikTokers, Instagram models, etc. are all frequently found to develop over-inflated egos from having too much self-importance by literally having careers based around their looks and appearances.
 
I hope I'm understanding the topic correctly, and I apologize in advance if I misunderstood, but from the sounds of it, you're asking if there is a problem with finding yourself beautiful, or "hot", because you meet the standards of beauty that uphold for others, correct?

Well, if that is what you're asking I have one word for you: Balance. Most people don't have it, and because of that, most people find themselves in trouble. If you don't have enough self-esteem, self-love, self-respect or self-assurance, you will, either consciously or unconsciously, seek it out in others. You will become dependent on someone else to validate you in the ways that you do not validate yourself. This is problematic because oftentimes you will find yourself in a toxic relationship with someone who recognizes that insecurity within you and will exploit it to their own benefit. They will use and abuse you because they know that they can, and that all it will take for you to come running back to them is a half-assed apology and some flowers that they bought on clearance. Lying, cheating and manipulating will be a commonplace in your relationship because you lack the ability to see your own beauty and self-worth, which is why you latch on to these douchebag people for the simple fact that they will call you pretty from time to time.

On the flip side, having too much confidence, love and self-esteem can also be a problem because it is a breeding ground for narcissism and vanity. Let me be clear, there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with seeing beauty in yourself. There is NOTHING wrong with seeing your own worth. It only becomes a problem when you lose too much of your grip on modesty and you start to believe that you are God's gift the world. At that point, your ego becomes hyperactive and you will start to experience an almost psychopathic sense of over-importence in yourself. Ironically, even in the case of narcissism (having too much confidence), you still have an excessive need for admiration from your peers. However, contrary to the case of insecurity (not having enough confidence), narcissists often have a total disregard for the feelings of others and will often verbally abuse those whom they perceive are inferior to them. Narcissists also struggle with criticism because they believe they are already " the best" and therefore have no room for improvement. Thus, any critical advice or opinion that is shared with them is often perceived as an insult or a personal attack. Lastly, narcissists often have an over-inflated sense of entitlement. Going back to the "God's gift to the world", they believe that this world is their personal playground and they are therefore entitled to everything and everyone they desire. These individuals will often overstep boundaries because they feel like boundaries don't apply to them and will quickly call someone "too sensitive" or "melodramatic" when they are called out for their bullshit. Narcissists are known for victim-blaming and turning a situation around on the other person as they try and convince said person that the real problem lies within them and not the other way around because in their warp perceptions of reality, they can do no wrong.

Just a little FYI: Narcissistic personality disorder is common mental illness amongst most social media influencers. YouTubers, TikTokers, Instagram models, etc. are all frequently found to develop over-inflated egos from having too much self-importance by literally having careers based around their looks and appearances.
I'm not worried about finding myself attractive. This is about someone looking the way they'd want their partner to look like and how does that make their life different compared to someone who doesn't look that way. Whether it breeds narcissism or just good times when fapping, that's different from person to person. Someone may like being that way, others may find it weird
 
I'm not worried about finding myself attractive. This is about someone looking the way they'd want their partner to look like and how does that make their life different compared to someone who doesn't look that way. Whether it breeds narcissism or just good times when fapping, that's different from person to person. Someone may like being that way, others may find it weird
I don't think I'm understanding your question.

"This is about someone looking the way they'd want their partner to look like and how does that make their life different compared to someone who doesn't look that way."

Everyone likes different things. Some people like thecbig and buff look, and some people like the lean and slender look. Some people like tall, some people like short. Some people like Blonde, some people like Brunette. Different people like different things. If you're asking about how someone else is gonna feel about your body, who cares. You're gonna encounter people who like the way you look and you're gonna encounter people who dislike the way you look. If you want a partner who has a certain physique, obviously you have to pursue single men (or women) with the physique that you like.
 
I don't think I'm understanding your question.

"This is about someone looking the way they'd want their partner to look like and how does that make their life different compared to someone who doesn't look that way."

Everyone likes different things. Some people like thecbig and buff look, and some people like the lean and slender look. Some people like tall, some people like short. Some people like Blonde, some people like Brunette. Different people like different things. If you're asking about how someone else is gonna feel about your body, who cares. You're gonna encounter people who like the way you look and you're gonna encounter people who dislike the way you look. If you want a partner who has a certain physique, obviously you have to pursue single men (or women) with the physique that you like.
Some people like short slim blondes the most but they themselves are tall buff brunettes. It's like a straight guy who is into women but isn't a woman himself.

But there are guys who both like short slim blondes and are short slim and blonde themselves. This is like a straight guy having his mind teleported into the body of a girl he finds hot.

That's the idea, not the question. You ain't getting the idea. The questions are up there in my first post. "what is it like? Do you often get turned on when seeing or touching your body? If your body didn't satisfy your own preferences, while others would still find it hot, would there be some sexual things you'd do differently compared to how you do them now?" Those are the questions. Of course, people can say other things related to the idea even if I didn't ask about them. For example, some said that it can breed narcissism even though I didn't ask if it makes people narcissistic or not and that's fine
 
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I often see gay couples that look like twins down to the same haircut. It unfortunately makes me prejudge them for being self absorbed since it looks like they are dating themselves.

So personally, I cut them a little slack. While many straight couples I know are "complementary," (i.e. they have different strengths and assets), not all gay couples are like that (though some are!). Instead, I find it's common for gay men to seek out other men who have qualities that they admire and would like to see in themselves. In relationships like that, it's only natural that they would come to resemble each other in many ways.

As for my own answer to this question, I was never really one to look in the mirror and try to find my clone to date. In terms of physical attributes, I tend to get really turned on by two things I don't have in abundance: facial and body hair. I've never been able to grow anything more than a goatee, and I've always really liked men with anything from a good five o'clock shadow to a full beard. As for body hair, the more the better. Yes, I think his back hair's sexy! Yes, furry butts drive me nuts!

I do really like my height. At 6'4", I'm tall enough to stand out in pretty much any crowd, but not freakishly so. I do really like my dick...pretty much the perfect size as far as I'm concerned. And while I could quibble here are there, I'm pretty happy with my build as well.
 
uhm..... In regards to the idea raised by @fakboi. I and a former classmate had explored it about a crush we both had on another classmate. I am hesitant and questioning if I should share about our experiences as we ended up dappling into our psyche while we were 17-18 and deeply closeted. Luckily we caught ourselves and had stopped for years now but I am still shocked at the extent we went with it.
Trigger Warning: We think some of the things we did can be considered stalking. We were also fringing Norman Bates. To clarify, no one was physically hurt. Its just us messing with our own minds.
If this sounds too intense then I will share no further. Or I could just share a non-triggering version. Let me know.
 
uhm..... In regards to the idea raised by @fakboi. I and a former classmate had explored it about a crush we both had on another classmate. I am hesitant and questioning if I should share about our experiences as we ended up dappling into our psyche while we were 17-18 and deeply closeted. Luckily we caught ourselves and had stopped for years now but I am still shocked at the extent we went with it.
Trigger Warning: We think some of the things we did can be considered stalking. We were also fringing Norman Bates. To clarify, no one was physically hurt. Its just us messing with our own minds.
If this sounds too intense then I will share no further. Or I could just share a non-triggering version. Let me know.
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If you have the body type you find the most attractive in a partner or if you come reasonably close to it, what is it like? Do you often get turned on when seeing or touching your body? If your body didn't satisfy your own preferences, while others would still find it hot, would there be some sexual things you'd do differently compared to how you do them now?
Odd question but I think I get where you are coming from - and I guess the basis for it is, if you are gay or bi then there is every chance you are your own type and so - what is that like ?..right?

I'm in my 50's now and I still think I am kinda my type or at least one of my types. When I was in my late 20's all the way thru to my mid 40's - my look was very much a look that I would be attracted to - not 100%, I'd rather be a bit taller, would have loved bigger calves and slightly bigger thighs - but if I saw me at a sauna, I'd definitely be up for a root - maybe a beer?

As for what its like - well prior to my 20's I had a look that I really didn't like, so, all in all its much better than that. For me it just meant that I generally liked how I looked in pics, that when I was on the prowl taht I could be moderately selective without feeling like I was being overly picky or overly desperate by going for guys that I considered to be around my level of attractive . I obviously have a huge appreciation of the male form and so liked how my body looked getting out of the shower, I wouldn't say I was turned on by looking at myself, I was just pretty generally-while-not-perfectly satisfied with what I saw. I have no idea what you mean by what sexual things I would do differently given what I do sexually depends on how attractive I find the other person not myself.

So - I would say I was quietly satisfied with how I look cos it was a look that I liked and it was a kinda general look that most people liked and I enjoyed the power that gives you to decide what happens on any given night I went out looking for tail. I enjoyed looking at my body cos my body looked good without being turned on by it ..
 
If you have the body type you find the most attractive in a partner or if you come reasonably close to it, what is it like? Do you often get turned on when seeing or touching your body? If your body didn't satisfy your own preferences, while others would still find it hot, would there be some sexual things you'd do differently compared to how you do them now?
Very interesting question. I do have the body type that I look for in someone else but I wouldn't say that I turn myself on maybe if I start touching myself I can but normally I'm thinking about or looking at someone else.
 
Ok maybe it's time to share my experience. I'm into muscular guys, anything from a fit twink to a big hunk.

Before I started to workout, I wouldn't touch my body when jerking off and touching it never gave me any sort of sexual arousal.

As I started to do some excercise, I reached something around the James Charles type. I was starting to get turned on by the feel of my "muscles" and that kinda made me think better about guys of similar built. Before that, I thought only visibly muscular guys were hot to touch but then I learned that even a guy who's visually inadequate ain't that plain to the touch. I began to take shirtless pics of myself and used them as fapping aid. And I also liked to fap in front of the mirror.

Now I'm just past the very bottom line of what I find sexy and the difference in the general feeling is already huge. Before, the pics I took relied heavily on flexing, lighting and filters and even that couldn't fix some things. Now I can go easier on the flexing, don't have to worry that much about lighting, filters are alien to me and the result is miles better than what I got in the past. I actually almost fully shifted towards videos which is something I never did before because I can't both move and be fully flexed and as I said, flexing was essential back then. I also look at myself more often and in more non-sexual moments. I go brush my teeth and I look at my tit the whole time because why not? It's there, it's hot and it's not complaining about being looked at. I also touch my body way way more often. Some things like stretching or scratching or things like that that people do... I'm doing them just a tiny bit differently than I used to because that tiny bit turns an innocent action into a pleasant muscle touching. When tired, some people like to rest their head on the table such that they use their hands as a pillow. I like to use my biceps and it always brings a positive vibe into a not so positive situation. If I was alone with my boyfriend, I'd casually grab his tit even though we weren't in an erotic moment. If I'm alone, I casually grab my tit even though I'm not gonna jerk off any time soon.

When I look at myself in the mirror, I don't get a boner but it sure does rise the level of sexual thought in my head. But I have no good idea about how stuff will be if I ever become a twunk or beyond, the kind of body type that has the ability to give me an instant boner. Especially given how things work now at the very beginning of the journey from twink to hunk.

When I'm horny I often go like "I'm so sexy, how is it even possible?" but I can't relate to the narcisism people describe when talking about some ripped influencers. I'm actually very aware how small I still am especially compared to people around me. The only negative effect seems to be that the hotter I get, the less I'm motivated to go to the gym. I'd love to be bigger but as I've reached hot already, the subconscious need has gotten way weaker.
 
Ok maybe it's time to share my experience. I'm into muscular guys, anything from a fit twink to a big hunk.

Before I started to workout, I wouldn't touch my body when jerking off and touching it never gave me any sort of sexual arousal.

As I started to do some excercise, I reached something around the James Charles type. I was starting to get turned on by the feel of my "muscles" and that kinda made me think better about guys of similar built. Before that, I thought only visibly muscular guys were hot to touch but then I learned that even a guy who's visually inadequate ain't that plain to the touch. I began to take shirtless pics of myself and used them as fapping aid. And I also liked to fap in front of the mirror.

Now I'm just past the very bottom line of what I find sexy and the difference in the general feeling is already huge. Before, the pics I took relied heavily on flexing, lighting and filters and even that couldn't fix some things. Now I can go easier on the flexing, don't have to worry that much about lighting, filters are alien to me and the result is miles better than what I got in the past. I actually almost fully shifted towards videos which is something I never did before because I can't both move and be fully flexed and as I said, flexing was essential back then. I also look at myself more often and in more non-sexual moments. I go brush my teeth and I look at my tit the whole time because why not? It's there, it's hot and it's not complaining about being looked at. I also touch my body way way more often. Some things like stretching or scratching or things like that that people do... I'm doing them just a tiny bit differently than I used to because that tiny bit turns an innocent action into a pleasant muscle touching. When tired, some people like to rest their head on the table such that they use their hands as a pillow. I like to use my biceps and it always brings a positive vibe into a not so positive situation. If I was alone with my boyfriend, I'd casually grab his tit even though we weren't in an erotic moment. If I'm alone, I casually grab my tit even though I'm not gonna jerk off any time soon.

When I look at myself in the mirror, I don't get a boner but it sure does rise the level of sexual thought in my head. But I have no good idea about how stuff will be if I ever become a twunk or beyond, the kind of body type that has the ability to give me an instant boner. Especially given how things work now at the very beginning of the journey from twink to hunk.

When I'm horny I often go like "I'm so sexy, how is it even possible?" but I can't relate to the narcisism people describe when talking about some ripped influencers. I'm actually very aware how small I still am especially compared to people around me. The only negative effect seems to be that the hotter I get, the less I'm motivated to go to the gym. I'd love to be bigger but as I've reached hot already, the subconscious need has gotten way weaker.
Wow thanks for sharing, you sound very attractive. And if you're already hot then why worry I guess is my thought too. when people get more into bodybuilding it seems to be like an obsession I've never gotten a high from working out I only do it so I look good lol. But I know some people really enjoy doing it. So I am athletic/fit but not in a bodybuilder type of way but what you shared has me wonder how many straight bodybuilders out there ever think about how hot they are? I wonder if they turn themselves on too? Kind of hot to think about and most straight bodybuilders I've met are well aware of how they look and their physique. Maybe some of them aren't quite as straight as they claim to be hehe.
 
Wow thanks for sharing, you sound very attractive. And if you're already hot then why worry I guess is my thought too. when people get more into bodybuilding it seems to be like an obsession I've never gotten a high from working out I only do it so I look good lol. But I know some people really enjoy doing it. So I am athletic/fit but not in a bodybuilder type of way but what you shared has me wonder how many straight bodybuilders out there ever think about how hot they are? I wonder if they turn themselves on too? Kind of hot to think about and most straight bodybuilders I've met are well aware of how they look and their physique. Maybe some of them aren't quite as straight as they claim to be hehe.
If you mean why worry about getting bigger, it's because although I'm technically within my limits of hot, I'm kinda balancing on the bottom edge. When I take a longer brake from the gym, I still look the same but the muscles start to loose that hot feeling when I touch them. An athletic body is still my goal and also more strenght is always welcome. Not to mention the massive increase in sexiness. I'm also curious what would it be like to be like for example Jhosep Morales. I may be already smashable by my own standards but if I looked like that, I'd be really sexy by my own standards. It's like having a car that serves you well in all aspects but wanting a car that would be even better. I expect to get even hornier but I was also curious about how stuff works for others who are way closer to the peak of their own preference than I am to my own