Why do y’all care!?

[deleted26825971]

I’m starting this off by saying I am a gay man. I will never be Bisexual or Pansexual or Straight. This is just something I’ve observed particularly on this site. And also I’m not entirely sure if this is the place to post this but we slay.

As an enjoyer of men, there are many adult content creators that I follow and I see what they are up to on here. And so I’ve seen many threads of many creators some of these creators are not gay, some aren’t even queer. I just want to know why on earth does it matter? Why does it matter if one content creator has made more videos with women than men? Are y’all just sad that they don’t want to fuck you? This is a site for ADULTS yet yall act like children.

 

[deleted26825971]

A really good example of what I’m talking about is CJ Clark. He has stated numerous times to be pansexual, yet in threads about him I’ve seen many people get so angry when he makes a video with women. Do y’all think he’s just lying to get views? Why that would be mildly annoying but there are far worse problems in the porn industry

 

[bigboaster]

A really good example of what I’m talking about is CJ Clark. He has stated numerous times to be pansexual, yet in threads about him I’ve seen many people get so angry when he makes a video with women. Do y’all think he’s just lying to get views? Why that would be mildly annoying but there are far worse problems in the porn industry

There are a couple of different issues at play here.
1) Most of his subs are homosexuals who I guess don't want to see straight content. That being said, This isn't something to get angry or upset over though. Just ignore the content you don't like? simple.

I am bi myself and I even I prefer his gay content tbh, his scenes with women have been pretty boring so far.

2) There are very cynical people who think he is lying about his identity. In some cases this is a product of biphobia, homophobia and general ignorance, in others maybe just a very jaded over-reaction due to other creators who regularly lie about their sexuality/content to farm attention.

In general users on here are very melodramatic and make big deals out of inconsequential things that OF creators do.

 

[bigboaster]

I’m starting this off by saying I am a gay man. I will never be Bisexual or Pansexual or Straight. This is just something I’ve observed particularly on this site. And also I’m not entirely sure if this is the place to post this but we slay.

As an enjoyer of men, there are many adult content creators that I follow and I see what they are up to on here. And so I’ve seen many threads of many creators some of these creators are not gay, some aren’t even queer. I just want to know why on earth does it matter? Why does it matter if one content creator has made more videos with women than men? Are y’all just sad that they don’t want to fuck you? This is a site for ADULTS yet yall act like children.

I'm probably not the right person to reply to this thread since I heavily agree with you, and am equally confused by the people on here who are quite frankly obsessed with this topic and care a LOT about these sex workers personal lives, their private sex lives, their politics and so on. I don't get it at all. It just seems unnecessarily parasocial and invasive.

And yes plenty of people on here (despite being, I assume over the age of 18), seem to present behaviors more akin to teenagers or pre-teens. Very immature.

 

[AceWilde]

Honestly I'm glad to see other people saying this. I thought I was losing my mind the way some people have been yelling about "gold star gays" in porn as if the concept of a gold star gay isn't just a total BS social construct anyway.

 

[Intellectualmeat]

There is an attitude here that there is only one way to be “not straight” and that is to be 100% homosexual. Some get incensed when male creators even look towards a woman. Personally I find it a distasteful way of treating people, but it’s accepted without pushback.

 

[deleted26825971]

There is an attitude here that there is only one way to be “not straight” and that is to be 100% homosexual. Some get incensed when male creators even look towards a woman. Personally I find it a distasteful way of treating people, but it’s accepted without pushback.

It all stems from biphobia, I’m not surprised it’s rampant on this site. The whole thing where you select if your X% gay or X% straight supports that very outdated mindset of bi people being 50% straight and 50%gay, allowing for biphobia to be much more normalized here. imo at least

 

[deleted26825971]

It all stems from biphobia, I’m not surprised it’s rampant on this site. The whole thing where you select if your X% gay or X% straight supports that very outdated mindset of bi people being 50% straight and 50%gay, allowing for biphobia to be much more normalized here. imo at least

I also think it’s weird when content creators are accused of “baiting gay people” bestie they were never going to fuck you.

 

[Intellectualmeat]

It all stems from biphobia, I’m not surprised it’s rampant on this site. The whole thing where you select if your X% gay or X% straight supports that very outdated mindset of bi people being 50% straight and 50%gay, allowing for biphobia to be much more normalized here. imo at least

I don’t believe the % choices influence bigoted viewpoints on the site. These people have to own their bigoted viewpoints as examples of how hateful they are despite what they claim.

 

[deleted26825971]

I don’t believe the % choices influence bigoted viewpoints on the site. These people have to own their bigoted viewpoints as examples of how hateful they are despite what they claim.

Yeah. I just think the whole % thing really enables it.

 

[bigboaster]

Yeah. I just think the whole % thing really enables it.

I personally spiny use it since I think it's quite stupid. I just use pansexual as a shorthand for now. Until they make a plain bisexual tag.

 

[Infernal]

It seems like such a weird thing to get so emotionally invested in. The adult industry has something for everyone. I don't understand why someone would get angry over content they don't like when something else is always available. Change the channel.

 

[chrisrobin]

A really good example of what I’m talking about is CJ Clark. He has stated numerous times to be pansexual, yet in threads about him I’ve seen many people get so angry when he makes a video with women. Do y’all think he’s just lying to get views? Why that would be mildly annoying but there are far worse problems in the porn industry

I've wondered - what is a pansexual ?

 

[deleted26825971]

I've wondered - what is a pansexual ?

I’m not entirely educated on what pansexuality is, but from my guess is being attracted to more than one gender but the gender does not matter. That’s just my understanding of it though, so I advise you go and look for yourself

 

[bigboaster]

I’m not entirely educated on what pansexuality is, but from my guess is being attracted to more than one gender but the gender does not matter. That’s just my understanding of it though, so I advise you go and look for yourself

That's basically it. Pansexuality is basically just bisexuality+. To some it's mostly a redundant or pointless label since bisexuality can and does cover mostly the same ground already anyway

 

[deleted19462351]

All the time, lol.
I'd be creeped out if some rando would be this invested in my sex life, is there any reason to care about who they have sex with? Any justifiable reason? Doubt it.

 

[deleted19151801]

That's basically it. Pansexuality is basically just bisexuality+. To some it's mostly a redundant or pointless label since bisexuality can and does cover mostly the same ground already anyway

I'm still confused about pansexuality and have been trying to make sense of it for the longest. From what I understand, it's attraction to "all genders." However, this gets complex when you realize that initial physical attraction is based 100% on external factors. And these external factors include male and female secondary sex characteristics. There are still only two options to choose from.

Of course, just because one may see male or female secondary sex characteristics, that doesn't mean that the individual themselves identifies as male or female. But self-identification is a very internal process that one would be unaware of unless told.

Technically, what dictates physical attraction is the presence of male or female secondary sex characteristics. Thus, if a straight man sees what he perceives to be a woman due to secondary sex characteristics, is he suddenly "pansexual" because it turns out that woman actually identifies as non-binary?

It's not possible to be physically attracted to "an identity" because it's an intangible concept. Therefore, if the only options are male or female (secondary sex characteristics), if someone is attracted to both, they are bi. Because...bi means two. What is the point of the "pansexuality" label, then? Please, someone, make it make sense.

Just my shower thoughts.

EDIT:

A little disclaimer. If this seems all over the place, I am currently sick as hell and indulging in the curative effects of a couple of hot toddies.

 

[bigboaster]

I'm still confused about pansexuality and have been trying to make sense of it for the longest. From what I understand, it's attraction to "all genders." However, this gets complex when you realize that initial physical attraction is based 100% on external factors. And these external factors include male and female secondary sex characteristics. There are still only two options to choose from.

Of course, just because one may see male or female secondary sex characteristics, that doesn't mean that the individual themselves identifies as male or female. But self-identification is a very internal process that one would be unaware of unless told.

Technically, what dictates physical attraction is the presence of male or female secondary sex characteristics. Thus, if a straight man sees what he perceives to be a woman due to secondary sex characteristics, is he suddenly "pansexual" because it turns out that woman actually identifies as non-binary?

It's not possible to be physically attracted to "an identity" because it's an intangible concept. Therefore, if the only options are male or female (secondary sex characteristics), if someone is attracted to both, they are bi. Because...bi means two. What is the point of the "pansexuality" label, then? Please, someone, make it make sense.

Just my shower thoughts.

EDIT:

A little disclaimer. If this seems all over the place, I am currently sick as hell and indulging in the curative effects of a couple of hot toddies.

I mean... I don't entirely disagree. I do think the label is mostly redundant and pointless. But you have to remember this current age is the age of Neo-labels and sub-labels. Every little variation of possible attraction has to have a name now. Pansexuality has certainly been around a bit longer than some current labels but it's the same concept.

 

[AceWilde]

So since I am someone who considers himself pansexual I can give a bit of my own thoughts in the bi vs pan thing. Obviously can't speak for all pan folk, but having talked to a bunch I feel pretty confident in what I'm going to say.

While the term does have a history in, essentially, a misunderstanding of bisexuality as denying trans and non-binary people, the current definition is very similar to bisexual, but with a specific difference:

Bisexual is being attracted to two or more genders. It doesn't need to be ALL genders, it just needs to be at least two.

Pansexual is being attracted to people regardless of gender. By that I mean the gender of the person doesn't matter at all, you'd be attracted to them with whatever body.

For me, the reason why I prefer pan over bi is because I really don't care what gender someone is, I can work with it all. What matters to me is that I like the person and we have some good chemistry. I don't even really worry (and sometimes don't even know) about what genitals I'll be working with until the pants come off and it's time to do my thing. While yes, some of the things that attracts me to a person are secondary sexual characteristics (I love me some good tits and hairy chests) the distinction is that I'm attracted to all varieties of it. So for me it doesn't matter if a woman has a pussy or a cock, I can still be turned on and want to pleasure that pussy or that cock. Because for me it's more about making the person feel good than it is doing any specific act with any specific body part.

That being said, I do always joke that I consider myself pan, but I'll say bi if I don't feel like explaining it, and I'll say I'm gay if I REALLY don't feel like explaining it.

Hopefully that wasn't too confusing.

 

[deleted19151801]

Hopefully that wasn't too confusing.

Not really. The explanation you presented still just sounds like bisexuality but it happens to include trans people and their "unique physique situations," also.