I think Samuel is all about himself and I hope Dylan figures that out. Dylan needs to be who he determines he should be if he ever gets there but now with Samuel. Like to see him and Michael end up together.
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Yea, why does Dylan even study whatever he's studying. Micro-economics? He absolutely hates it. Michael couldn't have forced him (they only met through university, right?). He also doesn't seem to give it a lot of thought though, so perhaps he's someone who separates work and life well. The ADHD could also help
Time for another voice once again: I understand all the dislike towards Samuel, but at least he tries SOMETHING. If it weren't for him, Dylan would still be acting the same over and over and over and over again. He wouldn't even have the original thought that he'd might be bi.
I understand Samuel's patterns might not be a sensitive way forward, and I wouldn't like it either. But I feel like in case of someone like Dylan this will be good in the long-term, and I feel like Samuel knows this too. Therefore, I'm still team Samuel.
But isn't Dylan doing the same things over and over again anyway? He's still hurting people. The way he spoke to Monica, was not only a dick move but kind of cruel. Whether it's Samuel or Michael, he's still being led around by someone. I think things would change if he would speak his mind to both Samuel and Michael the same way he does when talking to Tom, Leo and definitely Monica.
Dylan needs to determine who is wants to be for himself not because of someone else.
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The reason why people don't like Samuel is because the story is in Dylan's POV. We can't really read it from his perspective, therefore it does make Samuel seems sort of selfish. No one is perfect, Samuel have also said wrong things here and there. Still, he's nowhere near as awful as Michael or even Dylan.
Also, Remember, Dylan is an adult, he is also responsible for everything that he chose to do. Just like how some of you pinning that Samuel shouldn't have pressure Dylan because Samuel knew who and how Dylan was from the start, Dylan ALSO knew who and how Samuel was from the start. Samuel was pretty clear with his expectation to Dylan, yet Dylan chose to stay. He could've leave if he wasn't ready to fulfill those expectations. Coming out is scary, therefore if you are not ready find someone else that can accept with you being in closet. Samuel didn't do anything that force Dylan to stay.
Also, Remember, Dylan is an adult, he is also responsible for everything that he chose to do. Just like how some of you pinning that Samuel shouldn't have pressure Dylan because Samuel knew who and how Dylan was from the start, Dylan ALSO knew who and how Samuel was from the start. Samuel was pretty clear with his expectation to Dylan, yet Dylan chose to stay. He could've leave if he wasn't ready to fulfill those expectations. Coming out is scary, therefore if you are not ready find someone else that can accept with you being in closet. Samuel didn't do anything that force Dylan to stay.
Yep, i think people keep forgetting that it was all Dylan that blamed Monica for wanting more from him because HE kept seeking her out, thus making her feel like he liked her more than he did.
It's all Dylan STILL no taking accountability for liking someone else and still making the poor girl feel like it was her behaviour that led to him not wanting to be with her.
I guess it basically comes down to whether you see Dylan as the oppressor or victim of the story. And how he sees himself.
Dylan only makes Monica feel guilty cause he doesn't want to face himself. Samuel only pushes Dylan so he will finally come to terms with himself. Michael attempts to bring 'focus' so Dylan can deal with the difficult combination of study, work, sports, friends, love and family.
Is there anyone with a degree in ethical philosophy to judge this one?? Lol
Dylan only makes Monica feel guilty cause he doesn't want to face himself. Samuel only pushes Dylan so he will finally come to terms with himself. Michael attempts to bring 'focus' so Dylan can deal with the difficult combination of study, work, sports, friends, love and family.
Is there anyone with a degree in ethical philosophy to judge this one?? Lol
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All of this, with one addendum: I think that this story really tries to illustrate how we can all be both victims and oppressors, sometimes even at the same time. None of these characters are all good or all bad; they are all complex human beings who sometimes do shitty things to each other, but more out of confusion and selfishness rather than malice,
Interesting conversation. I don't think there are many stories on this board that inspire this much discussion about the characters and their motivations.
I guess that's quite a tribute to Xxkpetersxx.
I guess that's quite a tribute to Xxkpetersxx.
Exactly!! More than two months without a new chapter but we still got more than enough fuel for talking about. And love to all of you who inspire me with other perspectives!!
Poor Dylan.... Why do Michael do this?? He is never insecure about being naked. Even before this, he's showing all his body to Dylan, but like he realise something and cover himself. Michael has never show any care about others. He also said he was fine with Dylan being bi. He should just act normal.
Why? Because Michael is not, in fact, fine with Dylan being bi. He's covering up because he doesn't want to be the object of Dylan's lust. (Well, he thinks he doesn't want that ...)
