Are black men really bigger?

[TinyPrincess]

Evidence ?

First of all, most of the art i'm aware of come from the roman period and not the greek period.

You are aware of societies and ages before the romans, right? Yes, the roman age is better preserved (as it's later) - and the public paintings and frescos on e.g. walls in Pompeii is bloody incredible - even by today's standards - clear evidence of former societies being ages in front of us in their views on nudity and sex.

If you did a fast google search for say "are there any greek statues with large penises" before responding, you could find links as e.g. this

And since must evidence is on vases - you could find huge amounts of pictures as this

But it's not the art - it's the purpose of showing people with different cock sizes I hinted at...

 

[TinyPrincess]

Interesting art, Outside of the ancient Greeks, how many ancient or older civilisations depicted nudity within there art? both male and female, and in particular featuring genitalia?

I haven’t come across any within Egypt. Only some small samples in ancient Mesopotamia. It would be fascinating to see the ancient Art of the ancient Nubians. Or those from the Kingdom of Kush. And various other tribes of the time.

Though my knowledge of art is pretty limited, but interesting to see early cultures had different views on nudity and depicting the body. Some more conservative than others perhaps.

Not ancient, but Shunga art is pretty hardcore, so I could imagine it didn't come out of the blue - it must have been preceded by similar paintings

 

[TinyPrincess]

Kyle Onstott, the author of the 1957 novel Mandingo, learned the following as a youth in the late 19th century:
The Mandingo is a stereotype of a sexually-voracious black man with a huge penis,[7] invented by white slave owners to promote the notion that blacks were not civilizable but "animalistic" by nature. They asserted, for example, that in "Negroes all the passions, emotions, and ambitions, are almost wholly subservient to the sexual instinct" and "this construction of the oversexed black male parlayed perfectly into notions of black bestiality and primitivism."[8]

Actually this is pretty close to the old Greek definition - only difference is the racism behind the stereotypes - the Greeks didn't link it to skin colour but people's attitude, behaviour and knowledge.

 

[Eights]

I don’t believe that black men have bigger dicks as a whole. Black, white, Asian or whatever, if you have a big dick, you have a big dick! Have a great day everyone!

 

[dreamer20]

Unfortunately for you, your source is a complete joke. For instance, this mosaic was found in Turkey, so completely unrelated to the etruscans :

Roman Mosaic of an Aethiopian Fisherman

^^Modern day Turkey lay within the ancient Roman Empire:
Eastern Roman Empire | Byzantine Location, Government & Religion - Video & Lesson Transcript | Study.com.

Ancient Etruscans Were Immigrants From Anatolia, Or What Is Now Turkey

Ancient Etruscans Were Immigrants From Anatolia, Or What Is Now Turkey​

 

[FrankieGuile]

Once again, i don't see any link and i'm not lying. So either you can post the link or it's pointless. Case closed as far i'm concerned.

However i do agree with you on one point : there's no really reliable evidence about comparisons between ethnic groups. I'm talking about scientific studies. Scientists simply don't care about this subject for the most part and it's perhaps a sensitive subject at the same time. Yet people commonly say asians are smaller and it doesn't seem to bring a lot of debate, despite the lack of scientific evidence to support this claim. It's only based on porn, yet people are claiming at the same time porn is not reliable...

But when we talk about historical events, we should find reliable enough sources to prove a point.

The term "scientific" gets thrown around a lot these days without people understanding what scientific criteria is expected or what the term means. Are we talking peer reviewed studies? Experiments designed to test a null hypothesis? Double-blind clinical trials? Surveys with rigorous statistical sampling and reported outcomes? All of these, and more, can be considered "scientific." In the matter of this thread, loads of surveys exist, but surveys disagree in their scope, methodology and outcomes, leaving the matter forever open for conversational, but not scientific, debate. So have fun conversing and sharing personal experiences and observations, but leave science out of it.

 

[chesticles55]

hence why i think porn is actually the best data we have, at least at the highest percentiles.

This is, without doubt, one of the absolute dumbest things I’ve ever read on here. And that is a high, high bar.

 

[chesticles55]

Care to explain, because you won't impress anyone without arguments, i hope you realize it

Here's my explanation, because i'm the actual logical person here :

- All porn actors are discriminated according to their size
- So porn should be a decent evidence among the largest sizes (highest percentiles)

I mean, it's really simple to understand.

Demographic could be a problem though, most porn actors are white men by a huge margin, so they should be advantaged : with a larger demographic the odds of finding a larger size is greater. So indeed, we have to consider this point.

We should also consider discrimination against minorities, especially black men since they don't hold any power in this industry. So a factor that could potentially disadvantage black men.

Whites can be any size and get work. From barely above average to huge. Blacks can’t. Only the largest blacks are hired and heavily promoted. Sure there are exceptions to this, but in general this holds true. Imagine being this absolutely clueless about how business & industry work and referring to a manufactured & contrived industry like porn as “data” and thinking it somehow is indicative of reality whatsoever lmao.

 

[chesticles55]

Except that's a claim without any evidence, here's the problem.

Also, it still doesn't change the fact that larger white actors are among the most popular porn actors. So even by assuming they can be any since (which i don't think since porn will always discriminate for larger sizes) there's still an extremely huge demand for large white actors : Danny D is one of the most popular white actor with millions of views on porn websites.

Even Vlad (who is jewish though) who is an extremely poor performer, looks unhealthy and creepy, still have a lot of popularity.

So another weak and made up argument from your part, but i'm used to it

As I literally just said there are exceptions. There are huge white guys like Danny D or Vlad, and there are “smaller” black guys like that Prince Yashua guy or Mr. Marcus or whatever their names are. Do you understand what “in general” means? Good god.

 

[chesticles55]

I don't care : your so-called exceptions are among the most popular white actors, so there's a logical problem

I didn’t say huge whites can’t be popular. Far from it. I said you’ll be hard pressed to find non-huge blacks that are. And only the biggest of blacks are heavily pushed. This is not hard, but it either is for you or you’re trying to make it that way so I’m done.

 

[dickapick]

I really start to understand why you don’t want studies or proof. Because porn is the truth. So who needs studies? Who needs additional proof?

BBC is very popular
LBC is not
Porn is about making money
Popular equals more money

 

[dickapick]

Whenever such study existed, black men came at the top though.

No study exists. But you already know the answer.

Thanks to enlighten us

 

[TinyPrincess]

scientific data is irrelevant

porn is the best data we have

Finally, I understand his delusions

 

[FrankieGuile]

Once again, i never asked for scientific data about penis size, so your message is irrelevant.

Not to mention i do agree with you, hence why i think porn is actually the best data we have, at least at the highest percentiles.

You need to re-read your own post..."I'm talking about scientific studies"...and then re-read mine. You took exception to my post which reinforced the point you seemingly made. Instead, you chose to interpret it as a micro-offense and then replied defensively. So be it.

 

[dickapick]

That is not what i said, i said those studies are extremely rare.

But no problem, since i always rely on evidence, here's the source : https://www.urologiauerj.com.br/wp-...penile-length-in-self-declared-Brazilians.pdf

So, you are referring to peer reviewed studies and then you come up with this as your evidence?

And about your porn nonsense. Ever googled for bbc or bwc? 4.010.000.000 results vs. 103.000.000 results. Also, why does the bbc porn rely on only a handful of actors? That is most likely not because there are soooo many to pick from.

 

[chesticles55]

Imagine lacking such individual self-worth and (probably) having a small black dick that you have to attach yourself to a complete group-identity oriented myth.

 

[chesticles55]

And about your porn nonsense. Ever googled for bbc or bwc? 4.010.000.000 results vs. 103.000.000 results. Also, why does the bbc porn rely on only a handful of actors? That is most likely not because there are soooo many to pick from.

To be fair. People who are looking for big white ones or are indifferent to race probably just use terms like “big dick”, “huge cock” or other assorted terminology. The reason “BBC” has to exist in the first place is because a racial qualifier is only necessary in people’s minds if it’s black. If it’s a “BWC” it’s likely just one of the aforementioned terms. “BWC” only exists in direct response to “BBC”. In essence “BWC” really is just “big cock”. It’s only when it’s black that the skin tone specifically becomes a massive focus of interest.

Agreed overall though, and you’re right, it’s the same 5-10 large black performers that are used over & over. And not because there’s an abundance.

 

[chesticles55]

Imagine being so much an insecure hater that you have almost 1500 messages on this forum + wasting your whole life trying to "debunk" porn actors' size

I come here for shits & giggles as a hobby. And to make sure fools like you are noticed by the casual reader. Half the time I post I’ve had a few drinks anyway. And I still own clowns like you. At least I have enough of a spine to stand behind a single account and not sheepishly use alts because I’m embarrassed I’ve been exposed as a surface-level thinking moron.

 

[chesticles55]

1500 messages, it's ok don't worry

How about judging my posts based on the quality of their content as opposed to how many there are? Oh wait you can’t, because any actual true intellectual engagement renders you a cognitive cripple. So best to use ad hominem and irrelevant barbs like how often I post.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Once again, i never asked for scientific data about penis size, so your message is irrelevant.

Not to mention i do agree with you, hence why i think porn is actually the best data we have, at least at the highest percentiles.

You specifically said, "I'm talking about scientific studies" which made my reply relevant. And I'm glad you agree with my main point though it's a jaw-dropping conclusion that "porn is actually the best data we have."