Big Brother 25 Men

[maxall]

She's just a master of lying. Sandra is the legend of social strategy. She earned the respect and votes of other contestants. Cirie earned neither. Her strategy is to lie and make unneeded promises and tell people she loves them, then gest mean and really hurts people she's pledged loyalty too. So she's a legendary final loser. Her stategy always failed in Survivor because she unnecessarily hurt people. I think she enjoys it. Gets some twisted high like it makes her smarter than people that trust her.. It will be interesting to see if the BB house falls for it or all turn on her at the end when they discover she doesn't "love" anyone but herself.

exactly. I think this person means strategy/manipulation not social game when they say 'social strategy.' I used to get them mixed up as well. Cirie has a poor social game. She went to the Survivor jury more than once and lost. A player with legendary social game wins if they get to jury. Janelle has a pretty legendary social game actually.

 

[joeblowfl]

CirYes, I would love to see Hisam nominate and eliminate Izzy & Cirie. They are vile human beings.

The things they were doing and saying yesterday crossed the line into bullying and bigotry for me. I doubt they will show most of it on TV but I will summarize here:

They basically created a whole narrative that Hisam was going around to the young "hot" players trying to form alliances with them to get away from his "fat useless old leftover" alliance with Izzy, Cirie, Felicia, Red, etc. Like they were going in on him. They played up the gay stereotype of being vain and theatrical, saying that of course he was trying to be with the "hot" ppl the whole time and that all of his talk of inclusivity, equal rights, anti-agism, etc was fake. They said they "couldnt wait to see the pain in his eyes" when he finds out he's been betrayed. They laughed and said he would probably so "over the top dramatic and theatrical," "throw a tantrum," once it happens on live tv. They were all laughing at him. Cursing. Even Felicia. IT WAS HORRIFYING. They mocked the way he speaks and holds his hands and face. They went and told Jag and Blue that Hisam was "exploiting inclusivity" out of greed. That he was using their ethnicities against them. Blue was horrifed, saying she thought he was genuine but now she sees that he was targeting her due to her ethnicity. Jag agreed. They went to the entire house calling him "disgusting" "dispicable" "dangerous"... I mean it was BAD. Cirie kept saying she doesnt like any "g*ddamn brown (asian/arab) deals. No Queer deals." Izzy was cheering her on. Like it was really disturbing.

As the day went on, Twitter flipped from ragging on Hisam, calling him stuck up and a 'dictator' (pretty problematic term for an arab person), to having a lot of compassion for him. People started turning on Cirie in a major way. By late night, it was pretty bad for Cirie... Twitter ppl calling her an idiot, failure, fraud, loser...

By morning (with what I believe is Producer interference) the flip suddenly reversed back. I think the damage to Cirie and Izzy's game is done though. Not sure how they could ever come back from going so deep and personal against someone that did nothing but support and help them. Hisam is bound to find out as well. Meme was so pissed about all of it. They were trying to bully her to vote Reilly out. BB Twitter is kind of confused now because Cirie was so much of a fan favorite when the season started but she's the villain of the season rn and like everyone is like WTF LOL

So CBS as suspected is fine with POC being super racist &homophobic but barely use the N word and you are the devil. The conversation with Cirie and Izzy lamenting how they aren't into any brown people alliance bullshit was was far more racist than Luke's slip. Of course mocking Hisam's homosexuality is also perfectly fine with producers.

 

[Drainmyrod]

Cirie has never made in front of a survivor jury, she’d win it if she did. But there’s times she’s been close it’s taken a twist of a final 2 vs a final 3 or an advantage-geddon to take her out. Even in the traitors who she played with bowed out to give her the win. Her social game is good. Y’all are fucking crazy

 

[joeblowfl]

Cirie has never made in front of a survivor jury, she’d win it if she did. But there’s times she’s been close it’s taken a twist of a final 2 vs a final 3 or an advantage-geddon to take her out. Even in the traitors who she played with bowed out to give her the win. Her social game is good. Y’all are fucking crazy

She's a great manipulator and liar not good at social is why she's never won.
Care to comment on her "brown people" comments about Hisam/Jaq. Also making fun of Hisam's homosexuality.

 

[maxall]

So CBS as suspected is fine with POC being super racist &homophobic but barely use the N word and you are the devil. The conversation with Cirie and Izzy lamenting how they aren't into any brown people alliance bullshit was was far more racist than Luke's slip. Of course mocking Hisam's homosexuality is also perfectly fine with producers.

I know, and they kept censoring it, cutting out every 6 or 8 words to “we’ll be right back.” God knows what else they said. I mean she kept saying “g*ddamn brown sh*t” “that queer deal shit” over and over again like it was nothing.

And yes, although I think Luke should have been removed (he was fine as hell, but he seemed unstable/not fit for live tv TBQH…) it does seem that the only form of racism and bigotry that CBS is concerned with is against people of African and to some extent East Asian descent. No real issue or consequences for anyone else. It makes sense though because (if I’m not mistaken) CBS is the most politically conservative network out of the three major networks. From left to right: NBC, ABC(Disney), CBS. Also, this country elected Trump just a few years ago and his rhetoric against Latinx, Middle Eastern/Arab folks was blatantly racist. He couldn’t say the N word out loud but he could call Mexicans R*pists and ban arab ppl from coming into the country for example. I guess CBS has similar values.

 

[joeblowfl]

I know, and they kept censoring it, cutting out every 6 or 8 words to “we’ll be right back.” God knows what else they said. I mean she kept saying “g*ddamn brown sh*t” “that queer deal shit” over and over again like it was nothing.

And yes, although I think Luke should have been removed (although fine as hell, he seemed unstable as a human being and not fit for live tv TBQH…) it does seem that the only form of racism and bigotry that CBS is concerned with is against people of African and to some extent East Asian descent. No real issue or consequences for anyone else. It makes sense though because (if I’m not mistaken) CBS is the most politically conservative network out of the three major networks. From left to right: NBC, ABC(Disney), CBS. Also, this country elected Trump just a few years ago and his rhetoric against Latinx, Middle Eastern/Arab folks was blatantly racist. He couldn’t say the N word out loud but he could call Mexicans R*pists and ban arab ppl from coming into the country for example. I guess CBS has similar values.

If 2 white people had the conversation Cirie and Izzy had they'd be gone. 100%. Luke is an idiot he clearly uses that word with his friends. If people use it as a term of endearment and love it in rap songs it's never going away.

 

[Jaygroover80]

Not to be that guy but can we keep this thread as what it is intended to be? Pics of the hot guys in the house. Y’all can text each other if you wanna talk strategy and gameplay.

 

[maxall]

If 2 white people had the conversation Cirie and Izzy had they'd be gone. 100%. Luke is an idiot he clearly uses that word with his friends. If people use it as a term of endearment and love it in rap songs it's never going away.

I understand what you mean but swapping in white for other groups doesn’t really work because white is not a historically marginalized, oppressed group. In fact white has almost always been the oppressor. So yes the standard in that regard is a bit different.

Having said that, I think it was offensive and they should air those things on TV and ask Cirie/Izzy about it at some point just like they handled Kyle last year and Michie a few years before that. Or at least allow Hisam to respond at some point after watching the footage. Something along those lines.

 

[joeblowfl]

I understand what you mean but swapping in white for other groups doesn’t really work because white is not a historically marginalized, oppressed group. In fact white has almost always been the oppressor. So yes the standard in that regard is a bit different.

Having said that, I think it was offensive and they should air those things on TV and ask Cirie/Izzy about it at some point just like they handled Kyle last year and Michie a few years before that. Or at least allow Hisam to respond at some point after watching the footage. Something along those lines.

Agree with all of what you say. Just sick of the pick and choose outrage and selective performative way they handle these things. Kirsten used the N word on live feeds and got the whole word out and didn't even blink. Where's twitter warriors coming for her. My point is if Reilly and Cameron had a conversation saying they were sick of the Brown People bullshit it would be over. The Rules and Standards have to apply the same and they don't with producers.
Here's some Matt. agree he would look better with shorter or much longer hair.

 

[joeblowfl]

Not to be that guy but can we keep this thread as what it is intended to be? Pics of the hot guys in the house. Y’all can text each other if you wanna talk strategy and gameplay.

Be part of the solution, if you complain about off topic posts, include pics with your complaint.
Like this. Very curious about these shows Hisam does.

 

[qpullins]

Something about these conversations seem very coded Anyways here's the best-looking man in the house.

 

[EmeraldCityGay69]

Be part of the solution, if you complain about off topic posts, include pics with your complaint.
Like this. Very curious about these shows Hisam does.
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You can watch this full one on Youtube:

 

[MarioGolden]

I hate the multiverse twist bc it’s literally just an excuse for production to do whatever they want and change rules under “it’s different in this universe”

To be fair they can do that without making it a twist.

 

[ESCFan2019]

Dying to see more of Matt. Even bulge pics are okay

 

[iceman44]

 

[runningcrazy]

Not to be that guy but can we keep this thread as what it is intended to be? Pics of the hot guys in the house. Y’all can text each other if you wanna talk strategy and gameplay.

Yes please

 

[runningcrazy]

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Bet Cory enjoyed riding him

 

[here4booty]

Not to be that guy but can we keep this thread as what it is intended to be? Pics of the hot guys in the house. Y’all can text each other if you wanna talk strategy and gameplay.

tbf there aren’t many attractive guys besides hisam so not much to discuss in that regard

 

[BabyboyRomero]

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Agree with all of what you say. Just sick of the pick and choose outrage and selective performative way they handle these things. Kirsten used the N word on live feeds and got the whole word out and didn't even blink. Where's twitter warriors coming for her. My point is if Reilly and Cameron had a conversation saying they were sick of the Brown People bullshit it would be over. The Rules and Standards have to apply the same and they don't with producers.
Here's some Matt. agree he would look better with shorter or much longer hair.
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Sounds like your quarrel is more so with CBS and producers than the fans tbh. However I agree that everyone should be held accountable and given equal punishment when being offensive in any way.

 

[wayne joynx]

Cirie has never made in front of a survivor jury, she’d win it if she did. But there’s times she’s been close it’s taken a twist of a final 2 vs a final 3 or an advantage-geddon to take her out. Even in the traitors who she played with bowed out to give her the win. Her social game is good. Y’all are fucking crazy

This is basic Survivor knowledge and anyone who has ever watched Survivor knows this!! Lying and manipulation is the core of Survivor, that's what makes her such a good Survivor player. Had she made it to the finals of any of her seasons she would've won all of them, this is echoed by all her castmates/Survivor universe.