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I'm just happy Jag won. He totally deserved it over Matt (and Bowie).

His speech and many answers to the jury's questions were aggressive so he's lucky most didn't hold that against him.

At the end of the day Jag was the leader and Matt was the follower so they deserve 1st and 2nd.

I wasn't in love with Cameron this season but I'm fine with him winning some money as AFP.

This new show they are doing next month sounds very dumb and Idk if I will bother watching it...
 
Just so many predictions that went wrong, lol

Cirie did not burn the jury house down and turn everyone against Jag and Matt.

Jag did not lose $750k when he chose to stay loyal to Matt and evicted Felicia and Bowie. The jury rewarded him for playing the best game.

Cameron won AFP - despite a hardcore push on BB Twitter with Cirie and Americory. The later didn't even make the Top 3. Cam deserved it. He's a superfan, a competitor. Speculation is that he will be the HG from BB25 to play in the Reindeer games.
 
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Just so many predictions that went wrong, lol

Cirie did not burn the jury house down and turn everyone against Jag and Matt.

Jag did not lose $750k when he chose to stay loyal to Matt and evicted Felicia and Bowie. The jury rewarded him for playing the best game.

Cameron won AFP - despite a hardcore push on BB Twitter with Cirie and Americory. The later didn't even make the Top 3. Cam deserved it. He's a superfan, a competitor. Speculation is that he will be the HG from BB25 to play in the Reindeer games.
It’s because the delusion of BB Twitter/Reddit was on another level this season. They thought that Americory were beloved, but they did nothing all season except complain and sit around with their hands in each other’s pants. They thought Cirie cemented her status as a BB legend despite the fact that her alliance was a bigger joke than FOUTTE, her social game was clocked pre-jury, and she checked out after Jared left. They thought Jag and Matt were perceived as despicable villains, but they were just normal guys who were villainized by a toxic, racist subset of the fanbase.

Oh well.
 
Just so many predictions that went wrong, lol

Cirie did not burn the jury house down and turn everyone against Jag and Matt.

Jag did not lose $750k when he chose to stay loyal to Matt and evicted Felicia and Bowie. The jury rewarded him for playing the best game.

Cameron won AFP - despite a hardcore push on BB Twitter with Cirie and Americory. The later didn't even make the Top 3. Cam deserved it. He's a superfan, a competitor. Speculation is that he will be the HG from BB25 to play in the Reindeer games.
I would've sworn Jag was going to lose to Matt:joy::joy::joy: the fact that Jag chose the riskier path in taking Matt instead of a sure win over Bowie will always puzzle me but it worked out for him so...

I don't think Cirie cared enough about the game to make an effort for or against anybody, I think the only reason she stayed on in the jury is because she has ties with CBS and didn't want to ruin her relationship with them
 
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I'm just happy Jag won. He totally deserved it over Matt (and Bowie).

His speech and many answers to the jury's questions were aggressive so he's lucky most didn't hold that against him.

At the end of the day Jag was the leader and Matt was the follower so they deserve 1st and 2nd.

I wasn't in love with Cameron this season but I'm fine with him winning some money as AFP.

This new show they are doing next month sounds very dumb and Idk if I will bother watching it...
Not true at all. Matt was behind every nomination and eviction. Jag played a terrible game. Matt is a far superior player.
 
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Not true at all. Matt was behind every nomination and eviction. Jag played a terrible game. Matt is a far superior player.
I don't agree that Matt is far superior to Jag. Jag was messy but even then the jury knew that he was the leader and Matt was his second in command. You don't reward the second in command unless he takes out the leader. And Matt failed to do that so he gets the silver medal.

Thankfully the jury overall voted the way I wanted. 5-2 is not a blowout but I'm curious if Mecole and Jared would have voted for Matt or Jag. Considering they were closest to the people who sided with Matt maybe had the jury been 9 people it would have been another 5-4 win for someone like how Kaycee beat Tyler, Josh beat Paul, and Nicole beat Paul.

Those outcomes are very divisive so this could have been the fourth such one had the jury not been 7 people for this 25th season.
 
I don't agree that Matt is far superior to Jag. Jag was messy but even then the jury knew that he was the leader and Matt was his second in command. You don't reward the second in command unless he takes out the leader. And Matt failed to do that so he gets the silver medal.

Thankfully the jury overall voted the way I wanted. 5-2 is not a blowout but I'm curious if Mecole and Jared would have voted for Matt or Jag. Considering they were closest to the people who sided with Matt maybe had the jury been 9 people it would have been another 5-4 win for someone like how Kaycee beat Tyler, Josh beat Paul, and Nicole beat Paul.

Those outcomes are very divisive so this could have been the fourth such one had the jury not been 7 people for this 25th season.
Agreed. Matt was Jag's follower. Matt went along with what Jag decided. In the end Cirie and Felicia didn't vote based on gameplay. Cirie liked Matt and didn't care for Jag. Felicia voted Matt as a 'uh huh you should've took me to final 2 Jag so I'm not voting for you' vote. Jag made all decisions based on what would help him. If Matt really wanted to win, he had to get rid of Jag.
 
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Agreed. Matt was Jag's follower. Matt went along with what Jag decided. In the end Cirie and Felicia didn't vote based on gameplay. Cirie liked Matt and didn't care for Jag. Felicia voted Matt as a 'uh huh you should've took me to final 2 Jag so I'm not voting for you' vote. Jag made all decisions based on what would help him. If Matt really wanted to win, he had to get rid of Jag.
Pretty much.

Cam knew Felicia would be a bitter juror and she probably was one.

Cirie is loyal so I'll give her that.

But Matt absolutely should not have been so accepting to let Jag/Bowie evict Cirie instead of Felicia at F5 because that move only benefited them. He should have used that misunderstanding (if it was one or not I don't even remember or care much...) Felicia had that week and convinced them to make it a tie at the very least so he could break it to send Felicia home.

Not that it would have changed that much for him but stupid moves like that just confirm that Jag had control over Matt because he got what he wanted because he knew that Cirie was always picking Matt over him.
 
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I don't agree that Matt is far superior to Jag. Jag was messy but even then the jury knew that he was the leader and Matt was his second in command. You don't reward the second in command unless he takes out the leader. And Matt failed to do that so he gets the silver medal.

Thankfully the jury overall voted the way I wanted. 5-2 is not a blowout but I'm curious if Mecole and Jared would have voted for Matt or Jag. Considering they were closest to the people who sided with Matt maybe had the jury been 9 people it would have been another 5-4 win for someone like how Kaycee beat Tyler, Josh beat Paul, and Nicole beat Paul.

Those outcomes are very divisive so this could have been the fourth such one had the jury not been 7 people for this 25th season.
I don't think it would have been 5-4 if Jared and Mecole were in the jury. Cam said spending time with most of the jurors, it was pretty obvious where the vote was heading. Cirie's vote for Matt was more a sympathy vote. Felicia was the wildcard, since she did not get to go to the jury house.

Matt played a better social game. And in all fairness, he is not Big D - who floated to the F2. And Jag actually took a huge risk by keeping his loyalty to Matt.

The jury went with who played the better game. Likewise with America's Favorite Player - the public went with Cam winning over Cirie and Matt - who was the better competitor - over personality.