If you think he’s using a dangerous amount of roids then you don’t know about roid usage. Not condoning this but if he is using, his cycle is much more shorter than people who rely heavily on roids. Like Frank Defeo or Eric Rhodes. Both of whom died of heart attacks.
Ah fine, so he doesn’t use roids too much! Nice to know
and yet some people on here who claim to be experts on steroids say that he's not heavily relying on steroids. It is physically impossible to get from that to where he is without heavy steroid use.
But we gotta acknowledge that the perfect shape he’s got and the proportions of his body are achievable only with good genetic! Many guys on juice don’t have a such a body
good genes are important but secondary to dedication, training, nutrition and an enormous amount of steroids. I used to hook up with a bodybuilder and one time when I met with him and he was off season and off steroids I was shocked. His body looked so average I couldn't believe it was the same guy
These pictures are also almost three years old which you fail to mention. So again, I’m not saying he juices I don’t know. But you’re making it seem like he relies too much on it. If he does, he must be very bad at using them becuase his progress is NOT indicative of who relies too much on it. Especially for working out so much for three years. He would be much more jacked than he is
You have no idea what you are talking about so just stop embarrassing yourself
Actually overuse results in both more results and more side effects
Competitive bodybuilders cannot be open about their steroid use because they would be banned from the sport
blah blah blah
Granted, he has a runner’s body in the lower photo, but it’s crazy how much his face changed, PEDs or not.
There isn’t that substantial of improvement from the top pic to where he is now so you just proved my inital point so thank you for that. I never said he never used steroids, I’m not saying it now either. I’ve known guys who went to prison who have been able to get that jacked 6 or 7 months into a 2 year stint and people swear up and down they did steroids. I’ve also known guys who did a cycle or two to get a certain frame than switched to natty. My initial point was, you said he was abusing it and my response was if he is, he’s either doing it wrong, his cycles are short, or you just don’t know what you’re talking about or it could be your definition of overdoing it and what others are is not the same definition because I wouldn’t classify that as somebody overdoing steroids. Do I think he got that way naturally? My opinion, no. But him “overdoing” it to the point he is on the verge of a heart attack is not a statement that seems to be supported by his progress is all I’m saying.
There isn't a substantial improvement? He is 5'8" and went from a lean body of 158 pounds to at some point a muscled body of 235 ( thats a 77 pounds of muscle which is about 50% of his starting weight) in a relatively short period of time. It is impossible to do that just with training and nutrition without heavy use (or in my opinion abuse) of steroids. I've known guys who had much smaller muscle gains on steroids who dropped dead of a heart attack so I stand by what I said. If you can't see it I suggest you get your eyes checked but even if you can't see it the numbers don't lie. He posts about them on his IG
Sir, Respectfully, either English is not your primary language or you are too busy being passive agressive and hurling insults to comprehend what I am saying. I just said previously, he probably didn’t get his body naturally from the bottom picture to the top picture in your previous post. The most RECENT pictures he has up now from the picture from December 2020 does not have substantial improvement. Nobody is arguing your assumption. I’m talking about now, in 2022, NOT 2020. If your initial point is within that few months he overdid steroids then fine, valid point. But where I am saying I’m not seeing substantial muscle gain is between December 2020 and now. He has made some gains but not in the way I have seen other bodybuilders over a three year period who had went all in on steroids. Now, please fully comprehend before responding because you keep trying to argue a point nobody is arguing with you.
