Ezra might be the clearest example of a hot mess in today's movie landscape.
Ezra Miller
- Thread starter clarkwest
- Start date
Markus.Bittencourt
Superior Member
If The Flash had been a big fat hit then he'd be ok....but since his behavior derailed the movie..and it was a flop...he's pretty much done. I've worked at the studios before and no matter what they tell you, there is a list of actors who are unacceptable for casting. Shia is on it. Franco is on it. Spacey has been on it (but he is starting to get some work again in the indie world since his not-guilty verdict, but he's still considered a loon.
They need a strong PR to clean their imagem with the public, but maybe is too late? Or people will forget in 5 years?
Or maybe ezra with Indie band don't even care about acting anymore...who knows
Or maybe ezra with Indie band don't even care about acting anymore...who knows
Interesting that you took the trouble to go to IMDB but didn't make any effort to look at their upcoming projects. You would see that all of Franco's upcoming films are indie European movies, made far away from the Hollywood spotlight. None of them are US productions with other US actors. Yes, Woody Allen still got to make movies but not in Hollywood. And if you had checked Shia's upcoming films you would see that one of them is a Coppola movie that has been in development/production for a decade or more. The Barry Levinson movie isn't going to happen (the director is 81 years old). If you are going to go to some length to disprove what I say (and I work in film)...then perhaps you should go the extra step.
Lol why so pressed
Well Coppola wrapped this year. It's not impossible
Markus.Bittencourt
Superior Member
mattthebruinsfan
Superior Member
- Joined
- Sep 3, 2018
- Posts
- 1,724
- Media
- 0
- Likes
- 4,919
- Points
- 233
- Location
- United States
- Sexuality
- No Response
- Gender
- Male
Unsurprising that Coppola would stick with Miller after his behavior in that Nathan Forrest Winters molestation case. I assume preying on children is a feature rather than a bug when he's looking for people to work with.
So hostile, damn
People have done worse than Ezra and gotten their career back on track. Ezra will be fine.
And honestly I don’t think Ezra ever wanted to be a big major star anyway. They always seemed to have a preference for indie films, art films, and intellectual films more than big Hollywood blockbusters. The shift to the major films seemed to have been a temporary choice just to experience it or for the pay day, in a similar way that Joseph Gordon Levitt flirted with that, but ultimately stepped back into more serious roles as opposed to going the Hollywood super star route that was opening to him. I feel Ezra would’ve been the same. I can’t see them being content with the cliche blockbuster films for long.
Also, some of you seem to have made up your mind to dislike Ezra and believe all the worst things said about them…which is a choice, but the facts don’t match. Ezra was accused of a lot of things…but ultimately the vast majority of it came to naught. Interstate and federal organizations looked into the claims made against them, and none of it shook out, and most was revealed as blackmail or lies/exaggerations from problematic sources with vendettas, manipulation, and their own abusive pasts. The only thing that stuck legally was the crazy fights Ezra was getting into. But sensationalist media jumped to make this a moment and many people fed into it without waiting for investigations and courts to separate the truth from the sensationalism. And let’s not pretend that Ezra has the money, power, or connections to make those kind of serious claims go away, because they certainly don’t, especially not in this era.
So, maybe, some of you need to stop with all the marking of Ezra as something worse than what they were.
Ezra made some crazy and problematic choices, owing to drugs and mental health issues, but the majority of the claims and the worst were long since dismissed.
And honestly I don’t think Ezra ever wanted to be a big major star anyway. They always seemed to have a preference for indie films, art films, and intellectual films more than big Hollywood blockbusters. The shift to the major films seemed to have been a temporary choice just to experience it or for the pay day, in a similar way that Joseph Gordon Levitt flirted with that, but ultimately stepped back into more serious roles as opposed to going the Hollywood super star route that was opening to him. I feel Ezra would’ve been the same. I can’t see them being content with the cliche blockbuster films for long.
Also, some of you seem to have made up your mind to dislike Ezra and believe all the worst things said about them…which is a choice, but the facts don’t match. Ezra was accused of a lot of things…but ultimately the vast majority of it came to naught. Interstate and federal organizations looked into the claims made against them, and none of it shook out, and most was revealed as blackmail or lies/exaggerations from problematic sources with vendettas, manipulation, and their own abusive pasts. The only thing that stuck legally was the crazy fights Ezra was getting into. But sensationalist media jumped to make this a moment and many people fed into it without waiting for investigations and courts to separate the truth from the sensationalism. And let’s not pretend that Ezra has the money, power, or connections to make those kind of serious claims go away, because they certainly don’t, especially not in this era.
So, maybe, some of you need to stop with all the marking of Ezra as something worse than what they were.
Ezra made some crazy and problematic choices, owing to drugs and mental health issues, but the majority of the claims and the worst were long since dismissed.
Girl, please look at the reality. Weird TikToks made by their devoted stans or cultist interviews with Z-list blogs don't make for exoneration in the public eye any more than their lawyer managing to get their restraining order lifted one day before it was set to expire and calling that being declared innocent.
You're right about one thing though: They have more of a career than your other fave, Austin Mahone! Have a great 2024.
Girl, please look at the reality. Weird TikToks made by their devoted stans or cultist interviews with Z-list blogs don't make for exoneration in the public eye any more than their lawyer managing to get their restraining order lifted one day before it was set to expire and calling that being declared innocent.
You're right about one thing though: They have more of a career than your other fave, Austin Mahone! Have a great 2024.
I didn’t even know anybody was discussing this on Tiktok, because I don’t get my facts, opinions, or data from Tiktok. That is, clearly, your world. I look at the facts.
You ranted and raved about that restraining order pages ago, and that was already addressed:
Before you speak on a subject, educate yourself on it. Law doesn’t work the way you’re claiming it does.
Emergency restraining orders can be used as an abundance of caution tool. Even without proof, a judge will award one if concern is high enough and a decision can’t be made for or against. Because Ezra had numerous other pending claims, the judge in this case awarded one as a protective measure; not as a confirmation of guilt. If any of the claims were true, the restraining order would’ve been extended, and real charges would’ve followed. Also, his lawyer didn’t “get the restraining order lifted” because a lawyer cannot get a restraining order lifted without proof that it had no merit. Restraining orders are lifted at the pleasure of a judge. And the timing of it is based on when the hearing was set: which is usually determined by the judge. It just so happens the trial was set briefly before the order was to expire: which also is not unusual, as many judges will move to extend hearings until just before the restraining order expiration date in order to allow prosecution and defense to do their full diligence and get all the facts, and guarantee maximum protection, especially in a high-profile/high-concern case like this.
Now, that we got that out the way, show me the charges that stuck from the claims that were made? What was Ezra charged with? What was Ezra found guilty of? After a multi-state and multi-national investigation, across two continents, what was Ezra charged with and found guilty of? Because THAT’S what matters. THAT’S what had merit. THAT’S what had proof. And THAT’S what Ezra should be judged by.
In the era of Me Too, Never Again, and Believe Victims…AND in an era where nonbinary and trans people are being painted as criminals and predators by certain political sides…if Ezra, a nonbinary person, committed any of the crimes they were accused of, charges would have been filed.
Moreover, facts were revealed by Ezra’s defense and by prosecution that showed that the claims were made by people who had a vendetta against Ezra and had even exhibited blackmail-like behaviors. In the Hawaiian case, the guy had a vendetta because his girlfriend had left with Ezra. In the Iron Eyes case, it was revealed the parents were mentally abusive and transphobic, and had made claims that were dismissed by the victim themselves. In the Massachusetts case, the woman was reaching out to Ezra days before filing for the order and being rebuffed.
Let’s talk about the facts. Because ANYBODY can make claims, and we should certainly hear claims. But the legal system investigates those claims. And nothing came of it. Problems were found with all the claimants and their credibility. Perceived victims spoke out against claims. And an investigation on two continents resulted in nothing.
So, what do you have, besides the curious decision to continue to believe something for your own needs, so you can justify popping up in this thread with negativity all the time?
Is Ezra perfect? No. Ezra obviously was suffering from a mental spiral, had a drug addiction, was living in a fantasy world, and engaging in violent, delusional, and destructive behavior everywhere they went. But that doesn’t make opportunistic and revenge-oriented claims of them being a predator true.
Anyway, most importantly, if you think I’m going to argue with you on the holiday and engage in silly little insults, you’re wrong. The ball will be dropping in a a few hours where I am and I plan to enjoy it. Misery loves company…and you won’t get mine.
If you feel you need to say something else, go for it. But I said what I said.
That’s all.
I can forgive people who have mental struggles. What I can’t forgive is when those people put others safety in jeopardy and bring them along with them. Who cares if the dude is a good actor.
