For the people who are against gay4pay

[chrissal480]

Is say they been through their share of hard times and criticisms.. you just see what want to see

Especially since more men are coming out as bi these days

 

[markcurtis1979]

All this victimhood crying is really just downright pathetic.

There's nothing more pathetic than shrieks of "Bi Erasure!"

"The mean Evil Gays always picking on us Bisexuals!"

 

[chrissal480]

I’ve been asked if I’d be in a relationship with a bi guy and he was dating a woman….. I said sure.. as long as I was the only guy he was with and didn’t want me to have sex with him and her together..

But then I wouldn’t rule that out either as if wanted to fuck her in both holes then sure..


I just don’t think I am better for any reason.. I like to think and treat everyone I know as equal

 

[Michael R]

Gay for pay. Gay baiters online (don't make me name them. They are creeps. And you know behind our backs they are mocking and laughing at us. I got no time or patience for that shiz. Make your coin elsewhere.

 

[Irishdreamboy]

No bisexual has ever suffered 0.0001% of what gay people have suffered.

How you gonna make a generalization like that? Not all bisexuals are straight passing

 

[Smallteaplant]

I think politics and anything negative from the government point of view and religious .. shouldn’t be posted here.. if you want to make this about politics and religion then find a site that allows it

I come here to chat about my sexual preference and my past and fantasies and so on.. not to listen to a bunch of trump supporters that think gay and bisexuals need to leave the USA so as one guy posted on another site that he wanted a straight America ..

I think rules should be made that politics and religion not allowed on here unless you create a subject / thread and put in it that can post them in that topic


I’ve never cared about what others think of my sexual presences or my activities and I am not about to worry about it.now

Would you care if it affected your material conditions? Or end up in jail or socially ostracized?

I am sorry about the way people think about the straight - gay - bi line .. sexual things that we say we will or won’t do is a thin line

I have always known I like guys but I have also been with few women .. so people “ label” me as bisexual .. which is fine

I see sex as something to do whenever feel like it.. I do things sometimes .. because I am in the mood some times and not others

I won’t sit here say we all paid for sex or been paid .. ( or both) but if I were to pay a straight guy 500 to 1000 bucks to let me suck his dick and rim his ass then it’s his body and my money

Not all straight men can be bought But once bought they may return to do it again and again but then I wouldn’t pay as much unless some fucking we’re to occur then


After so many times it’s not gay for pay.. but if the site and the guys that pay for it or get paid for it is up to them

Too many people worry about this stuff .. when just worry about what they do in their homes is what should be doing..

This isn't about politics. First, I'm not concerned about American politics. I'm more interested in the cultural war and the dynamics of the dating market. This begs the question of how society would respond if they viewed homosexuality as a social contagion.

SmallTeaPlant, you and I have talked about this numerous times already.

While my "opposing side" is chastising and accusing homoflexibles and gay experimenters (in porn, of all places) of being the "ruin of gay men", what it ("opposing" side) has completely disregarded time and again is the fact that many of us homoflexibles, bisexuals, transexuals, pansexuals, etc. have also lived through the same painful historic struggle as you did; to gain rights and to spread awareness. (Some of us even went through the tried-and-failed ex-gay conversion processes ourselves! Just as much as 100% gays did.)

We share every bit in your stress and negative impact when something hurts our LGBT rights or sets us back.

What makes it completely difficult for us is when you focus so much on political image, you become single-mindedly obsessed with trivial things that shouldn't matter (specifically, gay guys who proudly announce that they are self-acceptingly gay, couldn't be happier than to be gay, but also are confident in themselves enough to experiment with women... in porn... of all places...); and use those as some excuse to cast us aside. All you've done is created disunity and aggravated our divide. By pointing fingers at us, you've ultimately exacerbated the very issue you were meaning to alleviate.

I agree that complaining about bisexuality in porn is silly. My motives aren't just solely political image. I decided to let this play come to its conclusion. While I care about politics, I am more interested in answering my questions. Besides, I think that human sexuality is more complex than simply gay, straight, or bi. My question is how society or the general populace will deal with non-reproductive sexualities like homosexuality, transsexuality, and bisexuality.

When bisexuals and homoflexibles giving the false impression and hope to homophobes that we can change straight, who owns the burden of responsibility? Us (bi's and flexibles), or people who have been given resources and simply chose not to know better? Who should you really be concerned about?

Honey, the responsibility will always be on the bisexuals and homoflexibles. My concern is what limits heterosexuals will tolerate us.

 

[RGHRGH]

Honey, the responsibility will always be on the bisexuals and homoflexibles.

Heh...
Answering a rhetorical question, and then getting the answer wrong....

 

[markcurtis1979]

The guy up thread said, “All it takes is the right woman” for him to fuck her, which is exactly the narrative that straight people believe about all gay men.

Thanks for nothing, bisexuals and homoflexibles.

 

[Smallteaplant]

Heh...
Answering a rhetorical question, and then getting the answer wrong....

How is my answer wrong? History shows that tolerance for homosexuality is dependent on the mood of the majority.

 

[phantompantomime]

How you gonna make a generalization like that? Not all bisexuals are straight passing

I don't want to be that person, but im about to say it. Why would a bi man want to be with another man, when he can easily just be with a woman and live an "straight" passing life with no issues?

 

[Irishdreamboy]

I don't want to be that person, but im about to say it. Why would a bi man want to be with another man, when he can easily just be with a woman and live an "straight" passing life with no issues?

I just said not all bi men are straight passing? And some of us don’t care what society thinks lol what? Also you seem to think being bisexual means you like both equally, some of us prefer men. And then of course some are only romantically attracted to women but sexually attracted to men

 

[phantompantomime]

I just said not all bi men are straight passing? And some of us don’t care what society thinks lol what? Also you seem to think being bisexual means you like both equally, some of us prefer men. And then of course some are only romantically attracted to women but sexually attracted to men

"Some of us" im not sure that's the majority, and it depends on what you consider "straight" passing. Cuz as you said, there are bi men who are heteroromantic, and let's be honest, that's the majority.

 

[Irishdreamboy]

"Some of us" im not sure that's the majority, and it depends on what you consider "straight" passing. Cuz as you said, there are bi men who are heteroromantic, and let's be honest, that's the majority.

No it’s not the majority And I never said “some of us” but that just further proves my point you expect them to get with women to avoid homophobia which isn’t living as their authentic selves. And those that do prefer women there’s literally nothing wrong with that so I don’t see why this is even a discussion

What I consider “straight passing” is a proper masculine man who nobody is gonna think for a second they could be gay which obviously is a stereotype but it’s how people think there’s no point denying that. Just like how nobody would suspect the girly girl is a lesbian because she’s straight passing

 

[phantompantomime]

No it’s not the majority And I never said “some of us” but that just further proves my point you expect them to get with women to avoid homophobia which isn’t living as their authentic selves. And those that do prefer women there’s literally nothing wrong with that so I don’t see why this is even a discussion

What I consider “straight passing” is a proper masculine man who nobody is gonna think for a second they could be gay which obviously is a stereotype but it’s how people think there’s no point denying that. Just like how nobody would suspect the girly girl is a lesbian because she’s straight passing

You did said "some of us" in regards to people not caring about what society thinks, which is indeed NOT a majority. And looking at the ratio of bi men ending up in straight relationships compared to same sex ones, just further proves my point. Why bother with a man when you can have a woman?

Also, if we take your point, many straight men aren't straight passing either, that doesn't mean they can't be seen as straight if they end up with a girl thought.

 

[phantompantomime]

No it’s not the majority And I never said “some of us” but that just further proves my point you expect them to get with women to avoid homophobia which isn’t living as their authentic selves. And those that do prefer women there’s literally nothing wrong with that so I don’t see why this is even a discussion

What I consider “straight passing” is a proper masculine man who nobody is gonna think for a second they could be gay which obviously is a stereotype but it’s how people think there’s no point denying that. Just like how nobody would suspect the girly girl is a lesbian because she’s straight passing

Also, don't get me wrong, im not saying there's something wrong with bi men who end up with a woman, but let's not compare their supposed "hardships" to what m/m relationships have to deal with.

 

[Irishdreamboy]

You did said "some of us" in regards to people not caring about what society thinks, which is indeed NOT a majority. And looking at the ratio of bi men ending up in straight relationships compared to same sex ones, just further proves my point. Why bother with a man when you can have a woman?

Also, if we take your point, many straight men aren't straight passing either, that doesn't mean they can't be seen as straight if they end up with a girl thought.

I obviously meant to say I never said some of us is the majority but that was irrelevant in the first place lol, Again why does it bother you if a bisexual man wants to be with a man??? It’s literally none of your business do you not see how biphobic you’re being

 

[Irishdreamboy]

Also, don't get me wrong, im not saying there's something wrong with bi men who end up with a woman, but let's not compare their supposed "hardships" to what m/m relationships have to deal with.

A bisexual man with a gay man will face the same shit like what are you on about, Especially if they’re seen as gay which btw straights do see bisexual men as gay

 

[phantompantomime]

I obviously meant to say I never said some of us is the majority but that was irrelevant in the first place lol, Again why does it bother you if a bisexual man wants to be with a man??? It’s literally none of your business do you not see how biphobic you’re being

Here we go with the "biphobia" label, i really just said that it is easier to be in a straight relationship than a gay in a gay one. And no, WHAT ARE YOU ON? A relationship between a man and another man is gonna not face the same as one between a man and a woman.

 

[phantompantomime]

No it’s not the majority And I never said “some of us” but that just further proves my point you expect them to get with women to avoid homophobia which isn’t living as their authentic selves. And those that do prefer women there’s literally nothing wrong with that so I don’t see why this is even a discussion

What I consider “straight passing” is a proper masculine man who nobody is gonna think for a second they could be gay which obviously is a stereotype but it’s how people think there’s no point denying that. Just like how nobody would suspect the girly girl is a lesbian because she’s straight passing

And i don't know, but does ending up with a woman as a bi man means "not living" as your authentic self? Is facing homophobia a requirement for bi men to be bi or what? Like, what point are you trying to make?

 

[Irishdreamboy]

Here we go with the "biphobia" label, i really just said that it is easier to be in a straight relationship than a gay in a gay one. And no, WHAT ARE YOU ON? A relationship between a man and another man is gonna not face the same as one between a man and a woman.

I said a bisexual man with a gay man not a woman lol and I never asked what are you on I asked what are you on about , And no you said it would be easier and why do they bother men which literally implies you don’t like them going for men??? How else would I interpret that if not biphobia, you clearly have a problem with men who can potentially avoid homophobia by being with a woman.

And yes you’re right some straight guys can come across as stereotypically gay and guess what they do have homophobic remarks thrown at them as well even though they’re literally straight

Clearly you need to do some self reflection on what you said to understand where I’m coming from