Gay attracted to Straight Best Friend and wants to have a MMF threesome with him

[jayponn10]

So yeah the story's a bit cliche. Gay guy falls for straight best friend he can never get with.

Long story short, we met, became close friends, until one day he finds out I like him because how I act towards him. We stayed friends, because he says he's been in my shoes concerning his ex gf. It's not been easy, because I think eventually we slowly became something else not friends as there's such a power imbalance between us. He even says that we are perfect as friends, but we aren't because of my feelings. He even wishes he should have cut me off when I confessed him my feelings, because he sees me in pain and blames himself for letting my feelings grow stronger. Not gonna lie, we have the greatest conversations and fun times, it's just difficult for me because of my feelings.

The thing is I think I'm bisexual, maybe 80% gay 20% straight? And I really want a MMF threesome. Hell, my fantasy is Double vaginal penetration (DVP). And I've imagined doing DVP with my str8 friend. We've even talked about it. We talked about our sexuality and he even said he was down for it. Great, right? Now, he says he's more hesistant because it's a little gay to have our dicks touching each other and it was never his fantasy; he agreed it to because it was something he was willing to do for me (and he wanted me to try pussy because he thinks pussy is great).

And I am crazy in love with this guy. I just want to fuck some pussy with him. Maybe it's in the homoerotic comradery way, having both our dicks inside her pounding her and nutting in her at the same time. And even if he says he doesn't want to do that no more, I just want to watch him fuck pussy while I sit behind him and watch his dick creampie her. And I just want to fuck that girl's cum filled pussy with jealousy and anger. Basically to be a gay cuck who watches his straight best friend crush fuck pussy.

Is this a weird kink? I honestly think this isn't healthy for me. Me and friend haven't talked in a while.. we had a nice time swimming together and decided it's not healthy to see each other anymore. He's really a great friend, it's just... become so toxic between us and part of me really really wishes I never fell in love with him.

I guess what I'm looking for on this forum is to find other gay guys who's been in similar situations. How did you and your friend overcome it? Did you ever overcome it? Just looking for advice or someone to tell me if this gay cuck kink is a bad thing or not.

Thanks for listening to my ted talk.

 

[Ponyhoff]

I've been there and it ain't fun.

First and foremost, you need to do the work to get over your romantic attachment to your straight friend. It is a toxic shadow that is destroying your friendship. It sounds like you guys really have a great time together and connect. That is worth keeping. Your friend is even open to having this 3 way with you....but it sounds like his limit is the double penetration. But I can completely understand your friend who might feel that your romantic feelings for him will overshadow any kind of fun that might be had. Can you just enjoy it as a fun adventure with a hot friend? That is as far as he's willing to go (for now).

My suggestion...do your work first to understand and get over your attachment to him. That is what will save this friendship. Accept what he is wiling to offer and find a more willing sexual partner.

 

[deleted29692421]

This doesn’t sound romantic or healthy imo. You’re friends and just be friends. If you can’t help but think sexually so often then that’s something to work on.

 

[jayponn10]

I've been there and it ain't fun.

First and foremost, you need to do the work to get over your romantic attachment to your straight friend. It is a toxic shadow that is destroying your friendship. It sounds like you guys really have a great time together and connect. That is worth keeping. Your friend is even open to having this 3 way with you....but it sounds like his limit is the double penetration. But I can completely understand your friend who might feel that your romantic feelings for him will overshadow any kind of fun that might be had. Can you just enjoy it as a fun adventure with a hot friend? That is as far as he's willing to go (for now).

My suggestion...do your work first to understand and get over your attachment to him. That is what will save this friendship. Accept what he is wiling to offer and find a more willing sexual partner.

Thanks for understanding.

Yeah I agree I need to find a real romantic partner and (try) get over my feelings for my friend. Just to mention, I've never had a romantic relationship before.. probably why my feelings for my friend are so strong.

I'm scared of a couple things...
1) if I keep comparing my new boyfriend to my old friend... that's going to get in the way of my relationship. I want to find someone I trust and truly admire for who he is.. and eventually tell him about my friend and how I'm trying to heal myself. I just hope I find a bf that's understanding and supportive. I hope I get into a relationship not to get over my friend but because I found someone I really love. My ideal type of guys are masculine, disciplined and someone who isn't a pushover... sort of the masculine type of guys. Sucks because my friend has all those qualities. And maybe it's my internalized homophobia that I don't think a lot of gay guys are like this. But I think I just haven't met enough gay people yet... I'm sure I will find mister right some day.

2) I'm scared of even if things worked out for me and we see each other again... I'll still have feelings for him. Even if I have a stable job, successful career, great boyfriend that 10/10 doesn't even compete with my friend. What if I can't stand the sight of seeing him with the girl of his dreams? I know this sounds so selfish... I just want to be the person to make him happy. I know a good friend should be someone I should be happy to see him be happy. I'm scared of it will break my heart to see him again and he's married to the girl of his dreams. I think of this scenario in my head again and again and I'm just crying into my boyfriend's arms. What's worse is if I don't have a boyfriend then, I'll really be crying alone. I'm afraid I'll use this hypothetical scenario to try to stay into a relationship in fear of being alone when I see my friend again. That can lead to a toxic relationship where I'm scared of being left alone.


I'm sorry for the ranting. If you are anyone has been in my shoes or have any kind of advice I'd love to hear it. My plan now is just need to build confidence in my own body I'm already trying to do that with gym. And go out and actually meet gay guys who could actually reciprocate if I showed interest unlike all my straight friends. I realize I'm just impatient to find a boyfriend because I really just want to be loved to be fucking honest. I want to forgive my friend and myself for all this mess, lose all my feelings for him and see him again and be genuinely happy for him. I want my friend back too.

 

[jayponn10]

This doesn’t sound romantic or healthy imo. You’re friends and just be friends. If you can’t help but think sexually so often then that’s something to work on.

Yes. It took me a while to realize things. My friend realized we was toxic earlier than I did and honestly, we still kept seeing and talking to each other because we really enjoyed each others company. He said he was being selfish really because he enjoyed talking to me. I thought I was being selfish at times too because I would try to hug or touch him and not respect his boundaries. We kind of stopped talking now. An unspoken thing between us now that we just don't talk now until we're ready.

He once sent me a picture of an small injury he had on his arm but I thought he was so attractive in that picture because he was flexing his triceps and he looked cute. I was working on schoolwork that day and I literally couldn't concentrate because I was so turned on. That picture alone literally made me cum 3 times in a single day. I think I'm just really really obsessed with him. Like seriously. I think to solve that sexual fantasies is to literally not think of him at all.

 

[Ponyhoff]

Substitute your friend for alcohol, food or drugs...and you'll see that you have an addiction here...and with addictions, you have to work hard to break them.

I promise you, in the light of day, this guy will seem kind or ordinary to you...you are building him up in your mind because he's the first....there's an awful lot of fantasy going on here, in your mind. Trust me, having your own guy who can love you back and want to have sex with you, is a hundred times better than this imaginary relationship with your straight friend. Every day you continue on this path, you are torturing yourself..and probably hurting your friend, too (is he ever going to trust a gay guy again who wants to be his friend?) And every day you continue down this path you are making it harder for yourself to break this pattern and course correct.

Do it. Do it today.

 

[jayponn10]

Substitute your friend for alcohol, food or drugs...and you'll see that you have an addiction here...and with addictions, you have to work hard to break them.

I promise you, in the light of day, this guy will seem kind or ordinary to you...you are building him up in your mind because he's the first....there's an awful lot of fantasy going on here, in your mind. Trust me, having your own guy who can love you back and want to have sex with you, is a hundred times better than this imaginary relationship with your straight friend. Every day you continue on this path, you are torturing yourself..and probably hurting your friend, too (is he ever going to trust a gay guy again who wants to be his friend?) And every day you continue down this path you are making it harder for yourself to break this pattern and course correct.

Do it. Do it today.

Thank you for this. On the topic of addiction, you're right. I'm currently struggling with porn addicition even when I was talking with him. I think there's a deeper cause to the issue, is the lack of purpose in my life. I know a lot of young men go through this and I'm not alone but it can get lonely sometimes. Going to the gym and cooking helps but it's a long process and sometimes I'm impatient to get over it and find myself a boyfriend who can love me. But I know that's setting myself up for potentially a toxic relationship for the wrong reasons.

 

[ZuhayrKhan27]

I can relate to your situation. I fell for a straight male colleague at work and painful would be an understatement to describe how it was. Ultimately, He moved to another country and we lost touch - this turned out for the best. It helped me get over him. I am now happily married heterosexually and have 2 biological kids

 

[8Cylinder]

I've been there... in fact, I was the first sex ever for the man I loved and continue to love. On that day, August 15 now six years later, he made it clear that sex will no longer be part of our interaction. In our case, we did everything. He continues to write me every morning and evening, and cares... but that is a shit substitute for lusting over every nuance of his body, his voice, his scent.

The bottom line is that one can appreciate all of that about someone you love and will never stop loving, but much as a mother loves a son it is possible to love him without the need to fuck him.

In fact, if it indeed is love for him and not for yourself instead, needing your wishes to exceed his, then it is not at all love for him. If in fact you love this man as you say, show its beauty by honoring his wishes, by being happy for him being happy.

I know how difficult it is, but the longer you replace all that can be in your life with him, you have lost yourself. Step one is to find others. Visualize that he's an astronaut living on Mars. Give it a break. Look around without being saddled by your obsession... I said it. I have been too. He's told me that and I deny it, but he's right, and its not healthy.

I've set it behind me after many long hours of severe tears. But I've accepted it. And guess what... doors flew open. It was me resisting others, not they me. I have met so many beautiful masculine men, with hairy muscular bodies that exceed even his perfection. They unlike him are eager to be with me, to explore, to begin together. He's on Mars. Not dead, just away. When he comes back to Earth to visit, I'll see him in a new, normal light, shadowed by the man or men I've now met who give back for me what I needed and wanted from him, but never got. In fact, it was ruining our friendship which now has recovered.

Keep this in mind... we men are fatally attracted to what is not available (including him for sure, he's dating a married man, hopeless for the future, and will be miserable). The idea that I wanted him so totally was a turnoff for him. He needs to be less needed to be attracted. It has to be him making the conquest, just as in his rock climbing. He makes the effort, he advances, he reaches the top. If he reaches the top with no effort, he's no longer interested in the sport.

 

[FrankieGuile]

So yeah the story's a bit cliche. Gay guy falls for straight best friend he can never get with.

Long story short, we met, became close friends, until one day he finds out I like him because how I act towards him. We stayed friends, because he says he's been in my shoes concerning his ex gf. It's not been easy, because I think eventually we slowly became something else not friends as there's such a power imbalance between us. He even says that we are perfect as friends, but we aren't because of my feelings. He even wishes he should have cut me off when I confessed him my feelings, because he sees me in pain and blames himself for letting my feelings grow stronger. Not gonna lie, we have the greatest conversations and fun times, it's just difficult for me because of my feelings.

The thing is I think I'm bisexual, maybe 80% gay 20% straight? And I really want a MMF threesome. Hell, my fantasy is Double vaginal penetration (DVP). And I've imagined doing DVP with my str8 friend. We've even talked about it. We talked about our sexuality and he even said he was down for it. Great, right? Now, he says he's more hesistant because it's a little gay to have our dicks touching each other and it was never his fantasy; he agreed it to because it was something he was willing to do for me (and he wanted me to try pussy because he thinks pussy is great).

And I am crazy in love with this guy. I just want to fuck some pussy with him. Maybe it's in the homoerotic comradery way, having both our dicks inside her pounding her and nutting in her at the same time. And even if he says he doesn't want to do that no more, I just want to watch him fuck pussy while I sit behind him and watch his dick creampie her. And I just want to fuck that girl's cum filled pussy with jealousy and anger. Basically to be a gay cuck who watches his straight best friend crush fuck pussy.

Is this a weird kink? I honestly think this isn't healthy for me. Me and friend haven't talked in a while.. we had a nice time swimming together and decided it's not healthy to see each other anymore. He's really a great friend, it's just... become so toxic between us and part of me really really wishes I never fell in love with him.

I guess what I'm looking for on this forum is to find other gay guys who's been in similar situations. How did you and your friend overcome it? Did you ever overcome it? Just looking for advice or someone to tell me if this gay cuck kink is a bad thing or not.

Thanks for listening to my ted talk.

It's only a "bad thing" when it obsesses you....oops...too late. You can keep the fantasy in your head, but if he's straight, he will never do it. You might want to apply some introspection to your notion of "crazy in love." I don't think that wanting to "fuck some pussy" with him or "homoerotic comradery" or having both of your "dicks inside her pounding her" is the hallmark of being in love with someone. Unrequited love is a self-worth issue; it's not an issue with the other party. Overcoming it, as you suggest you desire, is a matter of focusing outside yourself.

 

[jayponn10]

It's only a "bad thing" when it obsesses you....oops...too late. You can keep the fantasy in your head, but if he's straight, he will never do it. You might want to apply some introspection to your notion of "crazy in love." I don't think that wanting to "fuck some pussy" with him or "homoerotic comradery" or having both of your "dicks inside her pounding her" is the hallmark of being in love with someone. Unrequited love is a self-worth issue; it's not an issue with the other party. Overcoming it, as you suggest you desire, is a matter of focusing outside yourself.

I hear you. I think me wanting him to "fuck some pussy together" is my brain trying to substitute a fantasy potential romantic relationship with another fantasy (which is a probable threesome I can have with him). Ofc I want to be the one who can make him happy but he's not interested in men at all.

I agree, I've had issues with unrequited love / crushes before but they never gotten as far as this... I agree I may have self worth issues, self confidence issues... I wonder what you mean by overcoming it... is focusing outside yourself? Could you explain more what you are trying to say?

 

[jayponn10]

I've been there... in fact, I was the first sex ever for the man I loved and continue to love. On that day, August 15 now six years later, he made it clear that sex will no longer be part of our interaction. In our case, we did everything. He continues to write me every morning and evening, and cares... but that is a shit substitute for lusting over every nuance of his body, his voice, his scent.

The bottom line is that one can appreciate all of that about someone you love and will never stop loving, but much as a mother loves a son it is possible to love him without the need to fuck him.

In fact, if it indeed is love for him and not for yourself instead, needing your wishes to exceed his, then it is not at all love for him. If in fact you love this man as you say, show its beauty by honoring his wishes, by being happy for him being happy.

I know how difficult it is, but the longer you replace all that can be in your life with him, you have lost yourself. Step one is to find others. Visualize that he's an astronaut living on Mars. Give it a break. Look around without being saddled by your obsession... I said it. I have been too. He's told me that and I deny it, but he's right, and its not healthy.

I've set it behind me after many long hours of severe tears. But I've accepted it. And guess what... doors flew open. It was me resisting others, not they me. I have met so many beautiful masculine men, with hairy muscular bodies that exceed even his perfection. They unlike him are eager to be with me, to explore, to begin together. He's on Mars. Not dead, just away. When he comes back to Earth to visit, I'll see him in a new, normal light, shadowed by the man or men I've now met who give back for me what I needed and wanted from him, but never got. In fact, it was ruining our friendship which now has recovered.

Keep this in mind... we men are fatally attracted to what is not available (including him for sure, he's dating a married man, hopeless for the future, and will be miserable). The idea that I wanted him so totally was a turnoff for him. He needs to be less needed to be attracted. It has to be him making the conquest, just as in his rock climbing. He makes the effort, he advances, he reaches the top. If he reaches the top with no effort, he's no longer interested in the sport.

Thanks for telling me your story.

I think the best solution for me is to also imagine my friend being an astronaut and going to Mars until one day he will come back to Earth and I can welcome him back as a real friend. Thank you for that. I think this really helps.

 

[FrankieGuile]

I hear you. I think me wanting him to "fuck some pussy together" is my brain trying to substitute a fantasy potential romantic relationship with another fantasy (which is a probable threesome I can have with him). Ofc I want to be the one who can make him happy but he's not interested in men at all.

I agree, I've had issues with unrequited love / crushes before but they never gotten as far as this... I agree I may have self worth issues, self confidence issues... I wonder what you mean by overcoming it... is focusing outside yourself? Could you explain more what you are trying to say?

It makes sense he is "not interested in men at all" because he is straight. What does not make sense to me is the disrespect and denial some display for a straight man's sexual identity. The same disrespect and denial of a gay man's sexual identity would not be tolerated and would be rightly condemned. Tragically, that standard does not apply in reverse. I hope you do not fall into that same hypocrisy of intolerance for someone who is not like you although you fervently wish otherwise. That could be your first step in building self-esteem -- respecting the choices of others. Doing so is an example of focusing outside yourself. Another example is working for others who need your service. A good mindset to keep in order to focus outside yourself is realizing you are not special with regard to the challenges you face; however, overcoming those challenges while benefitting others, makes you special.

 

[Lord_of_Goon]

If a gay guy stepped up and fucked pussy in a MMF I would have to reward him.

 

[teeterp20]

So yeah the story's a bit cliche. Gay guy falls for straight best friend he can never get with.

Long story short, we met, became close friends, until one day he finds out I like him because how I act towards him. We stayed friends, because he says he's been in my shoes concerning his ex gf. It's not been easy, because I think eventually we slowly became something else not friends as there's such a power imbalance between us. He even says that we are perfect as friends, but we aren't because of my feelings. He even wishes he should have cut me off when I confessed him my feelings, because he sees me in pain and blames himself for letting my feelings grow stronger. Not gonna lie, we have the greatest conversations and fun times, it's just difficult for me because of my feelings.

The thing is I think I'm bisexual, maybe 80% gay 20% straight? And I really want a MMF threesome. Hell, my fantasy is Double vaginal penetration (DVP). And I've imagined doing DVP with my str8 friend. We've even talked about it. We talked about our sexuality and he even said he was down for it. Great, right? Now, he says he's more hesistant because it's a little gay to have our dicks touching each other and it was never his fantasy; he agreed it to because it was something he was willing to do for me (and he wanted me to try pussy because he thinks pussy is great).

And I am crazy in love with this guy. I just want to fuck some pussy with him. Maybe it's in the homoerotic comradery way, having both our dicks inside her pounding her and nutting in her at the same time. And even if he says he doesn't want to do that no more, I just want to watch him fuck pussy while I sit behind him and watch his dick creampie her. And I just want to fuck that girl's cum filled pussy with jealousy and anger. Basically to be a gay cuck who watches his straight best friend crush fuck pussy.

Is this a weird kink? I honestly think this isn't healthy for me. Me and friend haven't talked in a while.. we had a nice time swimming together and decided it's not healthy to see each other anymore. He's really a great friend, it's just... become so toxic between us and part of me really really wishes I never fell in love with him.

I guess what I'm looking for on this forum is to find other gay guys who's been in similar situations. How did you and your friend overcome it? Did you ever overcome it? Just looking for advice or someone to tell me if this gay cuck kink is a bad thing or not.

Thanks for listening to my ted talk.

I'm with ya bro. I wanna fuck a few of my straight friends sooo bad. However I've been honest about it with them too. They could care less. MMF with one of them, slightly awkward but afterwards again I was just honest and thankful and assured it'd be a secret if he wanted and leave it up to him if he'd like to do it again. Nothing changed with the friendship, and I have a feeling if the right gal and timing came up he might even be open to doing it again. It's far more uncomfortable for you're friends than you, so you have to be the one to make the effort to manage that friendship. Be blunt and honest...always the best

 

[hotcouple_be]

been in the case but in love with a lesbi friend who turned into friend with benefit,
it's amazing up to the point it become horrible, and rest assured it'll end in many many tears.

having fun in bed but looking for love from someone who defenetly isn't going to give it to you is receipe for disaster.

also, unless it's previously stated and agreed with everyone, it's a bad idea to try to turn a MMF bi right in the middle of it, would be yet another receipe for troubles.

if you want my advice, i wish i had never got in bed with my lesbi friend, we had pretty much a brother/sister relationship together beforehand, and losing that for the fun we had in bed was defenetly not worth it in my eyes.

true friends are very very rare these days, people to bang are a dime a dozen pretty much.

 

[jayponn10]

been in the case but in love with a lesbi friend who turned into friend with benefit,
it's amazing up to the point it become horrible, and rest assured it'll end in many many tears.

having fun in bed but looking for love from someone who defenetly isn't going to give it to you is receipe for disaster.

also, unless it's previously stated and agreed with everyone, it's a bad idea to try to turn a MMF bi right in the middle of it, would be yet another receipe for troubles.

if you want my advice, i wish i had never got in bed with my lesbi friend, we had pretty much a brother/sister relationship together beforehand, and losing that for the fun we had in bed was defenetly not worth it in my eyes.

true friends are very very rare these days, people to bang are a dime a dozen pretty much.

Hey listen I feel ya. Thanks for sharing me your story.

It really pains me because yes me and my best friend also have such a brother relationship. We would be assholes to each other (in a good way), be super upfront and brutally critical of each other yet I know if one of us gets hurt the other is more than ready to throw hands for each other.

I'm in the process of slowly healing... now, I would say the fantasy of MMF is still there but I'd rather have it with a boyfriend of mine. (Which is a whole other pandora's box about relationship insecurity and etc. but this was much better than only picturing MMF with my best friend as the top fantasy.)

I agree with you. True friends are so hard to come by nowadays. We used to be great friends or at least I thought we were. Now, it's difficult to remember a time where my feelings weren't involved in our conversations or interactions. It really breaks my heart. If I have all the power in the world, it would be to remove my feelings for him completely from my heart.

I think by time I will lose feelings for him but until then, I just look forward to the day I can be back to best friends with him again.

 

[thongboy]

It makes no sense wanting an MMF threesome if you also want to avoid any sexual contact with the woman.
My gf and I do a lot of MMF along with the requirement that all three of us are bi

 

[FrankieGuile]

It makes no sense wanting an MMF threesome if you also want to avoid any sexual contact with the woman.
My gf and I do a lot of MMF along with the requirement that all three of us are bi

I agree it makes no sense but just as much sense, or rather nonsense, as wanting to have such a threesome with a straight friend. Why? Because, as posited in the post's headline, he is straight. I want a pet unicorn but I must admit they do not exist. The post's headline should read: "Gay Attracted To Straight Best Friend And Hopes Straight Friend Is Actually Gay And Wants To Have A MMF Threesome With Him."

 

[elklindoxxx]

So yeah the story's a bit cliche. Gay guy falls for straight best friend he can never get with.

Long story short, we met, became close friends, until one day he finds out I like him because how I act towards him. We stayed friends, because he says he's been in my shoes concerning his ex gf. It's not been easy, because I think eventually we slowly became something else not friends as there's such a power imbalance between us. He even says that we are perfect as friends, but we aren't because of my feelings. He even wishes he should have cut me off when I confessed him my feelings, because he sees me in pain and blames himself for letting my feelings grow stronger. Not gonna lie, we have the greatest conversations and fun times, it's just difficult for me because of my feelings.

The thing is I think I'm bisexual, maybe 80% gay 20% straight? And I really want a MMF threesome. Hell, my fantasy is Double vaginal penetration (DVP). And I've imagined doing DVP with my str8 friend. We've even talked about it. We talked about our sexuality and he even said he was down for it. Great, right? Now, he says he's more hesistant because it's a little gay to have our dicks touching each other and it was never his fantasy; he agreed it to because it was something he was willing to do for me (and he wanted me to try pussy because he thinks pussy is great).

And I am crazy in love with this guy. I just want to fuck some pussy with him. Maybe it's in the homoerotic comradery way, having both our dicks inside her pounding her and nutting in her at the same time. And even if he says he doesn't want to do that no more, I just want to watch him fuck pussy while I sit behind him and watch his dick creampie her. And I just want to fuck that girl's cum filled pussy with jealousy and anger. Basically to be a gay cuck who watches his straight best friend crush fuck pussy.

Is this a weird kink? I honestly think this isn't healthy for me. Me and friend haven't talked in a while.. we had a nice time swimming together and decided it's not healthy to see each other anymore. He's really a great friend, it's just... become so toxic between us and part of me really really wishes I never fell in love with him.

I guess what I'm looking for on this forum is to find other gay guys who's been in similar situations. How did you and your friend overcome it? Did you ever overcome it? Just looking for advice or someone to tell me if this gay cuck kink is a bad thing or not.

Thanks for listening to my ted talk.

My partner and I go with other couples, and we have done MFM. I think that is what you are referring to, not a MMF. Straight men don't engage sexually with other men....especially a MMF. Threesomes exclusively go MFM or FMF.

Double vaginal penetration is something only done in porn scenes. Not in real life. And creampies are all faked in porn. Nobody does that in real life either.