Gay4Pay - Gay Baiting - opinions?

I watch a video to jerk off, I don’t then go and check their socials to check their political or moral views 😂

If he’s fucking a guy he’s not ”gay baiting” he’s making porn. Let’s save that term for all those clowns from Florida whose OF are just rubbing each others pecs while they make 100s of TikTok’s about being “tops”.
PREACH! I bet, if you're old enough, that back in the day you hated "Next Door Studios" as much as I did for the bunch of "straight" clowns that got their dicks sucked and fucked ass...and that's all! Grrrr.
 
I thought that was men.com they have so many straight guys on that site
LOL! I'm not sure what goes on over there. I haven't looked at it since 2010. They USED to make those guys at least kiss and suck dick, something Nextdoor never bothered to demand. James Huntsman, Tyler Toro, James Jamesson.... it was SO fucking annoying that I just stopped paying attention to Nextdoor. Sniffle. I miss classic Colt Studios. :(
 
The bottom line really is if it wasnt a bad thing you wouldnt feel the need hide it. They'd be open about it and the let chips fall where they may. But it does matter to people, in different ways, some like genuine straight dudes and others dont like to be deceived. Personally for me its all about how friendly they are towards us and not doing fake content ala Cody Cummings/NDS back in the day. Theres tons of straight dudes in gay porn who are more than friendly and okay doing the gay sex thing and being an ally and not antagonistic who get invited to the cookout. Those guys seem to be pretty upfront about it.

I'm irritated with Tim because he was like that in the beginning and then seemed to calm down and clean it up with growth and all that, so i was okay watching his stuff. This return to form makes me fake mad because i only ever got his vids being the Talented Swashbuckler I am. But still its the principle of the matter. Also his thinking he has top CIA information on the gay porn industry like this is the first time anybody was made aware of these things, its like really bitch?

my only exception is when a dude is 150% straight and actually cant do anything without ED stuff period like that Baxxx dude, thats a little too much for me.
 
The bottom line really is if it wasnt a bad thing you wouldnt feel the need hide it. They'd be open about it and the let chips fall where they may. But it does matter to people, in different ways, some like genuine straight dudes and others dont like to be deceived. Personally for me its all about how friendly they are towards us and not doing fake content ala Cody Cummings/NDS back in the day. Theres tons of straight dudes in gay porn who are more than friendly and okay doing the gay sex thing and being an ally and not antagonistic who get invited to the cookout. Those guys seem to be pretty upfront about it.

I'm irritated with Tim because he was like that in the beginning and then seemed to calm down and clean it up with growth and all that, so i was okay watching his stuff. This return to form makes me fake mad because i only ever got his vids being the Talented Swashbuckler I am. But still its the principle of the matter. Also his thinking he has top CIA information on the gay porn industry like this is the first time anybody was made aware of these things, its like really bitch?

my only exception is when a dude is 150% straight and actually cant do anything without ED stuff period like that Baxxx dude, thats a little too much for me.
For me gay4pay is completely unnecessary- why we have to look at guy who by definition is fake to the core when there are so many guys who are turned on and enjoy gay sex and are at least that hot if not more.

Also gay4pay only strenghten bi-erasure; it grew to such ridiculous amount that any guy who is either openely bisexual or closeted about it is accused of being g4p. Seriously look at twitter or any thread here.

Now what he recently said about gay porn is just a rage-bait; at least currently most gay pornstars are just gay, with some bi guys and barely any g4p ones. Also tons of models are obviously not on steroids-their physique is just too thin.
 
For me gay4pay is completely unnecessary- why we have to look at guy who by definition is fake to the core when there are so many guys who are turned on and enjoy gay sex and are at least that hot if not more.

Also gay4pay only strenghten bi-erasure; it grew to such ridiculous amount that any guy who is either openely bisexual or closeted about it is accused of being g4p. Seriously look at twitter or any thread here.

Now what he recently said about gay porn is just a rage-bait; at least currently most gay pornstars are just gay, with some bi guys and barely any g4p ones. Also tons of models are obviously not on steroids-their physique is just too thin.
I 150% get where your coming from, but theres a few things to consider. 1. If we got rid of every straight person we wouldn't have gay porn, the fact of the matter is that not nearly enough queer identifying men actually do it. Second is you have to give people the space to be things, ultimately its why the world is the way it is, people not giving us space to figure things out. Remember in the straight world they dont have a concept of gay to the point that if someone genuinely wants to crossover and be gay...they dont know what that means or what it looks like bc they only know it through the shitty lens of religion and hetero views.

I'm 100% of the thought process that most of humanity is bisexual with the extremes being gay and straight but we dont know that because straight people confuse the concept of choice and options in order to divorce sex from emotion. They think the option to not do something is the same thing as having the choice in the first place.

As long as they arnt being destructive You gotta let folks figure things out. I would rather have a Paddy O'Brian, Erick Diaz, the entire Czech Republic, etc who identify as straight but incredibly sweet than people like Michael Lucas, Sergeant Miles, Billy Santoro etc who identify as queer but are just awful fucking people.
 
For me gay4pay is completely unnecessary- why we have to look at guy who by definition is fake to the core when there are so many guys who are turned on and enjoy gay sex and are at least that hot if not more.

Also gay4pay only strenghten bi-erasure; it grew to such ridiculous amount that any guy who is either openely bisexual or closeted about it is accused of being g4p. Seriously look at twitter or any thread here.

Now what he recently said about gay porn is just a rage-bait; at least currently most gay pornstars are just gay, with some bi guys and barely any g4p ones. Also tons of models are obviously not on steroids-their physique is just too thin.
Well, I'm damaged goods.
I do not respond sexually to gay men all that much. I've always had a fixation on topping straight guys, the more stereotypically masculine the better. Now, how that differs from all the other kinks like B&D, Leather, or even sittin on balloons that are out there I don't know, but it usually (understandably!) gets a VERY poor reception from gay men.
I LIKE watching straight guys do not so straight things. I like roided out gay for pay bodybuilders shove things in their and each other's hairy holes, especially if there's video of them having fucked a woman first.
So no, I have no problem with gay for pay. My problem is with straight guys taking a viagra, rubbing all over each other, not sucking dick or taking it in the butt and expecting gay men to be grateful that they condescended to "stretch their boundaries."
Even worse is when Alfie Cinematic posted a clip of a video for sale that he captioned "no one has ever made me feel this before" where it looked like he was getting fucked up the ass, but the crotch was blurred out. I bought the video only to find that it was just them rubbing on each other...again.
Alfie will never know how much money he lost by his dishonesty.
THAT is classic gay baiting.
 
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I 150% get where your coming from, but theres a few things to consider. 1. If we got rid of every straight person we wouldn't have gay porn, the fact of the matter is that not nearly enough queer identifying men actually do it. Second is you have to give people the space to be things, ultimately its why the world is the way it is, people not giving us space to figure things out. Remember in the straight world they dont have a concept of gay to the point that if someone genuinely wants to crossover and be gay...they dont know what that means or what it looks like bc they only know it through the shitty lens of religion and hetero views.

I'm 100% of the thought process that most of humanity is bisexual with the extremes being gay and straight but we dont know that because straight people confuse the concept of choice and options in order to divorce sex from emotion. They think the option to not do something is the same thing as having the choice in the first place.

As long as they arnt being destructive You gotta let folks figure things out. I would rather have a Paddy O'Brian, Erick Diaz, the entire Czech Republic, etc who identify as straight but incredibly sweet than people like Michael Lucas, Sergeant Miles, Billy Santoro etc who identify as queer but are just awful fucking people.
I kindly disagree with the first part; even gays with being minority- those are still millions of people- and for a studio you need like 20-30 models (some will go some will appear). That 20-30 could be very easily filled with gay men.

Not to even mention bi/pan/fluid guys who vastly outnumber gay men. So this talk of "We have to use straights because there are not enough gay" is ridiculous for me.

Also if u believe most humanity is bisexual then why even believe in g4p - isnt g4p 100% straight?
Also I don't think entire Czech Republic id as straight- there are tons who id as bi tho.
Again porn is fantasy- I would rather see someone who is messy person who love sex he has on camera than someone who seems to be kind faking every single second(by definition).
 
Well, I'm damaged goods.
I do not respond sexually to gay men all that much. I've always had a fixation on topping straight guys, the more stereotypically masculine the better. Now, how that differs from all the other kinks like B&D, Leather, or even sittin on balloons that are out there I don't know, but it usually (understandably!) gets a VERY poor reception from gay men.
I LIKE watching straight guys do not so straight things. I like roided out gay for pay bodybuilders shove things in their and each other's hairy holes, especially if there's video of them having fucked a woman first.
So no, I have no problem with gay for pay. My problem is with straight guys taking a viagra, rubbing all over each other, not sucking dick or taking it in the butt and expecting gay men to be grateful that they condescended to "stretch their boundaries."
Even worse is when Alfie Cinematic posted a clip of a video for sale that he captioned "no one has ever made me feel this before" where it looked like he was getting fucked up the ass, but the crotch was blurred out. I bought the video only to find that it was just them rubbing on each other...again.
Alfie will never know how much money he lost by his dishonesty.
THAT is classic gay baiting.
Well, I can't share your fixation but for some reason I prefer when the guys are bisexual and really into the sex(maybe because i am myself bisexual and prefer women).
When I am watching straight porn there is no mental gymnastics like in gay porn "is he actually gay and just faking it?" because every assume guy in str8 porn is into pussy.

Genuine g4p is a turn off because those guys treat gay sex as a cash cow and straight sex as a source of fun and pleasure.
 
Imho gay men complaining about g4p/“queerbaiters” give off the same energy as straight men complaining that “Angel from the strip club” or “Becky the Hooters waitress” won’t give him her number.
Yes. Because those two things are EXACTLY alike. (eye roll.)
 
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Well, I can't share your fixation but for some reason I prefer when the guys are bisexual and really into the sex(maybe because i am myself bisexual and prefer women).
When I am watching straight porn there is no mental gymnastics like in gay porn "is he actually gay and just faking it?" because every assume guy in str8 porn is into pussy.

Genuine g4p is a turn off because those guys treat gay sex as a cash cow and straight sex as a source of fun and pleasure.
But I like it when straight guys start off not enjoying it... until they do. Example: THIS guy! He's a straight Russian cam guy who...when he started, wouldn't even show his hole. Now he's a dildo whore. That's hot!
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But I like it when straight guys start off not enjoying it... until they do. Example: THIS guy! He's a straight Russian cam guy who...when he started, wouldn't even show his hole. Now he's a dildo whore. That's hot!
Aren't they bisexual if they enjoy it?
 
Aren't they bisexual if they enjoy it?
That's debatable. ARE they bisexual if they like a woman to play with their ass...but not a man? What if they just use a butt toy on themselves? Are they bisexual if they would never touch another guy, except for the money, and then they find out that it feels good no matter who does it?
The biggest sexual organ in the body is the brain. We convince ourselves of a lot of things. A kink is just a kink. :)
 
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