Hayes Grier

In other words, he's toying with the idea. He's not ruling it out and will definitely consider it. But a phrase like "I think I’m going to make one soon" doesn't suggest he's fully committed to carrying it out. And of course if he did open an OF there's no reason we should expect much nudity.
A good way to put it!
 
No that’s wrong…the last video we got from he said and I quote “Yes, to answer your question in short. I definitely would make an onlyfans. Um, that’s about the extend of, I… of that. I think I’m going to make one soon, I’m not sure, still trying to figure out some things, but yeah. Hope you’re having day and stay tuned, you never know what’s coming soon. Have a good one.”
Ah I was was going off the video that was linked to that reply.
 
Ah I was was going off the video that was linked to that reply.
The switch stream was this:

“Where’s the Onlyfans? [laughs] That was a joke [inaudible] That was a joke. But the response I got was overwhelming, so, you never know. I had more people hit me up about that Onlyfans than, that’s so funny. Oh shit. More people where talking to me about that Onlyfans than, anything. [laughs] I was weak at that.”
 
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I hope I’m wrong but seems like a long shot that he’d follow through. I just have a hard time believing after the bad publicity of last year that the next thing he’d be looking for is scandalous pictures all over the Internet. If he made one, it probably would be just Insta-reposts and biking lol.
 
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I hope I’m wrong but seems like a long shot that he’d follow through. I just have a hard time believing after the bad publicity of last year that the next thing he’d be looking for is scandalous pictures all over the Internet. If he made one, it probably would be just Insta-reposts and biking lol.
True, but perhaps because of his troubles last year he needs to play to the audience who don’t give a crap about his personal life and just want to see more of him
 
This is pure speculation, just based on some old videos, but he and Nash aren’t the most LGBTQ friendly people on the planet, maybe he doesn’t like the idea that guys will be consuming his OF content so he’s hesitating to make one.
 
This is pure speculation, just based on some old videos, but he and Nash aren’t the most LGBTQ friendly people on the planet, maybe he doesn’t like the idea that guys will be consuming his OF content so he’s hesitating to make one.
How do you know Hayes isn’t lgbt friendly? I know Nash’s past and he has since apologized for it it was a stupid mistake on his part. I haven’t heard anything about Hayes not being lgbt friendly.
 
This is pure speculation, just based on some old videos, but he and Nash aren’t the most LGBTQ friendly people on the planet, maybe he doesn’t like the idea that guys will be consuming his OF content so he’s hesitating to make one.
You just made that up out of nowhere. What makes you think he’s not LGBTQ friendly?
 
You just made that up out of nowhere. What makes you think he’s not LGBTQ friendly?
they're talking about something Nash did when he was like 14, but Nash has literally changed so much and apologized, that i do not know why people try and bring it up. and from his IG stories on voting day, he clearly supports LGBTQ+
 
How do you know Hayes isn’t lgbt friendly? I know Nash’s past and he has since apologized for it it was a stupid mistake on his part. I haven’t heard anything about Hayes not being lgbt friendly.
You just made that up out of nowhere. What makes you think he’s not LGBTQ friendly?
they're talking about something Nash did when he was like 14, but Nash has literally changed so much and apologized, that i do not know why people try and bring it up. and from his IG stories on voting day, he clearly supports LGBTQ+
I did have a thing drafted to explain my thinking but Im not gonna clog the thread with a book. I'm gonna say 2 things. One, I specifically used the word "speculation" (form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence). Two, Nash has been quoted numerous times on Twitter using fag and gay in a hostile manner, not just that one time thing on vine. He has changed a lot, but my point in bringing him up is that he and Hayes probably shared the same views and Hayes hasn't spoken on the subject outside of defending Nash so we don't really know his stance. Once again, it's all just speculation I'm not trying to pass it off as facts.
 
I did have a thing drafted to explain my thinking but Im not gonna clog the thread with a book. I'm gonna say 2 things. One, I specifically used the word "speculation" (form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence). Two, Nash has been quoted numerous times on Twitter using fag and gay in a hostile manner, not just that one time thing on vine. He has changed a lot, but my point in bringing him up is that he and Hayes probably shared the same views and Hayes hasn't spoken on the subject outside of defending Nash so we don't really know his stance. Once again, it's all just speculation I'm not trying to pass it off as facts.
that was also years ago, before he was even 16. underage and uneducated. also that man has changed very much, so i'm not gonna have this conversation. also a few of Hayes' friends are gay, like Markell and that guy that that hangs out with Ricky— doubt he would be friends and interact and do videos with them if he didn't like them. y'all just want something to hate on at this point. people change and people grow. at least most do.
 
that was also years ago, before he was even 16. underage and uneducated. also that man has changed very much, so i'm not gonna have this conversation. also a few of Hayes' friends are gay, like Markell and that guy that that hangs out with Ricky— doubt he would be friends and interact and do videos with them if he didn't like them. y'all just want something to hate on at this point. people change and people grow. at least most do.

I like both Nash and Hayes and I’d agree that Nash has matured quite a bit since saying such horrible things publicly. I don’t put much weight on “influencer” friendships though - most just hang out to make content with the ultimate goal to make more income for themselves. I think if Nash saw an opportunity to “mend/repair” his image with the LGBTQ community, he’d jump at that - and collaborating with creators like Markell accomplishes that. I don’t think that that is necessarily a bad thing, but I’d say it’s self-serving still. In my opinion, I feel like Nash doesn’t agree with homosexuality given his interpretation of his faith - but I think someone finally pulled him aside and told him he better keep that private or risk his career. And maybe that’s all we can ask for is show respect to others even if he disagrees with their lifestyle.

I’d be curious to hear Hayes speak on faith and sexuality though.
 
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I like both Nash and Hayes and I’d agree that Nash has matured quite a bit since saying such horrible things publicly. I don’t put much weight on “influencer” friendships though - most just hang out to make content with the ultimate goal to make more income for themselves. I think if Nash saw an opportunity to “mend/repair” his image with the LGBTQ community, he’d jump at that - and collaborating with creators like Markell accomplishes that. I don’t think that that is necessarily a bad thing, but I’d say it’s self-serving still. In my opinion, I feel like Nash doesn’t agree with homosexuality given his interpretation of his faith - but I think someone finally pulled him aside and told him he better keep that private or risk his career. And maybe that’s all we can ask for is show respect to others even if he disagrees with their lifestyle.

I’d be curious to hear Hayes speak on faith and sexuality though.
considering his Black fiance and baby mama has the beliefs and faiths opposite of his FOURTEEN or younger year old self, i don't think he does hide it or keep it private. he posts stuff all the time in support of the LGBTQ+ and the black community. and Nash didn't collaborate with Markell asfaik, so please read. it's fundamental. also i'm not gonna go back and forth, they're not homophobic, that's been proven. i feel like y'all just want something to be mad at or to have a problem with, yet hold other people on a pedestal, and don't hold them accountable. Nash changed the most out of OG magcon. that's the obvious thing ever. Nash changed the most and Cameron (who has said the n word and used the f slur a lot and there's actual proof) and Taylor (who is transphobic) changed the least and remained childish. if anything he (Nash) has been accepting and has shown support for the LGBTQ+ community as well as the black community, and is literally actual friends with Trevi Moran. but anyway, this isn't the politics thread so, that's all i'll say
 
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that was also years ago, before he was even 16. underage and uneducated. also that man has changed very much, so i'm not gonna have this conversation. also a few of Hayes' friends are gay, like Markell and that guy that that hangs out with Ricky— doubt he would be friends and interact and do videos with them if he didn't like them. y'all just want something to hate on at this point. people change and people grow. at least most do.
Why are you insistent on acting like I'm trying to slander him into the dirt lol. I'm proposing a singular theory based off speculation, that he may be uncomfortable with the thought of gay men consuming his OF content
 
Why are you insistent on acting like I'm trying to slander him into the dirt lol. I'm proposing a singular theory based off speculation, that he may be uncomfortable with the thought of gay men consuming his OF content
i'd doubt he would be tbh though and because you insinuated they were homophobic