Intolerance of those who aren't verse when you become verse.

[GS_PL]

For over 52 years, my backdoor was closed to incoming business. It wasn't something I had a stern rule about, but just something that I simply didn't experience with a "warm real one". That's to say I did toy play with a partner, but never took the real thing until the last couple of years.

Since being open to "flipping", which I wish I started doing so much earlier in life, it surprises me how many gay men pigeonhole their "roles" with their sexuality. As a personal fan of watching gay porn, I scour actors' biographies to see if they ever tried to top or bottom even one time - THOSE are the scenes I find most fascinating to watch. I don't understand why so many men have what I consider to be a hang-up on giving equal pleasure to the person they are with. Now, I don't have any interest at all in being with someone who outright won't be willing to do both. My former long-term partner had a great looking one, but refused to ever top me, which was one of many reasons we aren't together any longer.

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

My experience is a bit different I always identify myself with being verse, although I was exclusively top for the majority of my sexual active life. That being said I always presented myself as a Top and nowadays still as vers top. I always had a thing for tops, specially having tops bottoming for me (which happens despite the general opinion). Since I also started to bottom sometimes I do find it a bit harder to have a partener not be willing to bottom or at least be willing to have some ass play like rimming and such. Those scenes in porn which you talk about are also a personal favorite for me. It just add a little extra spice and exicitation to it.

 

[jprings0219]

Tops are the best bottoms…especially those who claim to be total tops.

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

Tops are the best bottoms…especially those who claim to be total tops.

I couldn´t agree more ahah. There is very little things more exciting and hot than having a claimed exlusive Top bottoming for you

 

[Genuinkguy]

Tops are the best bottoms…especially those who claim to be total tops.

that doesnt even make sense, if a top does bottom then it wasnt never a top

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

that doesnt even make sense, if a top does bottom then it wasnt never a top

Yes it does. I don’t understand why everyone tries to be almighty about it. If a guy which is predominantly Top Bottoms once or even a couple of time for the sake of a really specific kink or something like it. It doesn’t make him not to be a top in every other day of his life. In my opinion being a top or a bottom should reflect the will you have to be in such position plus the position in which you find yourself more frequently or just most enjoyable.

 

[Genuinkguy]

Yes it does. I don’t understand why everyone tries to be almighty about it. If a guy which is predominantly Top Bottoms once or even a couple of time for the sake of a really specific kink or something like it. It doesn’t make him not to be a top in every other day of his life. In my opinion being a top or a bottom should reflect the will you have to be in such position plus the position in which you find yourself more frequently or just most enjoyable.

if a guy is less or more predominantly a top and bottom, even once or a couple of times it means that person is versatile because it gets pleasure from both ways, if a top is curious in being a bottom and enjoy it then is not a top but a versatile. I tried being a top once and didnt liked it my cock wasnt even getting hard, so im a bottom as I will never top.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

if a guy is less or more predominantly a top and bottom, even once or a couple of times it means that person is versatile because it gets pleasure from both ways, if a top is curious in being a bottom and enjoy it then is not a top but a versatile. I tried being a top once and didnt liked it my cock wasnt even getting hard, so im a bottom as I will never top.

You're a bottom that will never top. That does not mean other bottoms who may top once every other year is not a bottom.

stop with the black or white, this or that thinking... it causes so much strife in life! Most things are gray and a mixture like the yinyang ☯

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

if a guy is less or more predominantly a top and bottom, even once or a couple of times it means that person is versatile because it gets pleasure from both ways, if a top is curious in being a bottom and enjoy it then is not a top but a versatile. I tried being a top once and didnt liked it my cock wasnt even getting hard, so im a bottom as I will never top.

That’s to strict of a definition for someone’s sexual preference position wise. For me a guy who has always top can be a versatile at heart as a guy who has bottom sometimes can be a top at heart and vice versa. You are looking at it in a way where you contemplate someone’s life as a straight line and only analyze what happened and what the person did, you are dismissing how the person felt at each moment and the overall evolution of their sexual life and preferences.
Beyond that everyone has their own opinion and everyone is free to present themselves as they want and how they are ready to present themselves as. Regardless of all that the important thing is how we enjoy ourselves and connect with each other despite the labels in order to achieve pleasure.

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

You're a bottom that will never top. That does not mean other bottoms who may top once every other year is not a bottom.

stop with the black or white, this or that thinking... it causes so much strife in life! Most things are gray and a mixture like the yinyang ☯

I completely agree. I admit that nowadays is very common for people to misuse labels, what is everyone’s right btw (labels can also evolve as words and concepts do as well, as they simply are tools to express ourselves). However that’s no reason to be so strict and be a black or white person. The proof is how far we are from the topic of the original post just because there is people who can’t accept that there is other ways of living, other ways to view life and other people who might not have the same resolve or just people who choose to present themselves differently from someone’s black and white view of the world.

 

[Genuinkguy]

You're a bottom that will never top. That does not mean other bottoms who may top once every other year is not a bottom.

stop with the black or white, this or that thinking... it causes so much strife in life! Most things are gray and a mixture like the yinyang ☯

here we go, because of that " everything is a gray mixture theory" that many people are misleaded and mistaken by what they are looking for and what they want.
People need to be categorized for the sake of not misunderstadings, I broke up a relationship of 15 years when my ex after all those years asked me why i never penetrated him, and I was in shock because I was always bottom as is the way i get pleasure and enjoy and he also enjoyed being the top, but afterall he wasnt and that made him not being "happy" with out sexual life, and I didnt knew his versatile side ever. So this shit of being a top while bottoming is bullshit, people who do that are lying to themselves and to others who fuck with them, there is already a word that identifies people who enjoys bottoming and topping, is called VERSATILE.

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

here we go, because of that " everything is a gray mixture theory" that many people are misleaded and mistaken by what they are looking for and what they want.
People need to be categorized for the sake of not misunderstadings, I broke up a relationship of 15 years when my ex after all those years asked me why i never penetrated him, and I was in shock because I was always bottom as is the way i get pleasure and enjoy and he also enjoyed being the top, but afterall he wasnt and that made him not being "happy" with out sexual life, and I didnt knew his versatile side ever. So this shit of being a top while bottoming is bullshit, people who do that are lying to themselves and to others who fuck with them, there is already a word that identifies people who enjoys bottoming and topping, is called VERSATILE.

Yeah now I get your view maybe you should try to not impose your vision on others based on a bad experience you had. Did it ever occurred to you that you wouldn’t be that blindsided if you were more open to a grey view of things? Although I have never dated I think a relationship is also about comprise and being open to embrace the differences between each other and explore them together so you can grow and evolve together, that strictness puts any chance of that to rest in my sincere opinion.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

here we go, because of that " everything is a gray mixture theory" that many people are misleaded and mistaken by what they are looking for and what they want.
People need to be categorized for the sake of not misunderstadings, I broke up a relationship of 15 years when my ex after all those years asked me why i never penetrated him, and I was in shock because I was always bottom as is the way i get pleasure and enjoy and he also enjoyed being the top, but afterall he wasnt and that made him not being "happy" with out sexual life, and I didnt knew his versatile side ever. So this shit of being a top while bottoming is bullshit, people who do that are lying to themselves and to others who fuck with them, there is already a word that identifies people who enjoys bottoming and topping, is called VERSATILE.

Then the term versatile is meaningless. You will find many people who are tops but have bottomed once in a few years for their partner or to mix it up once, try things out. If every one of those men are verse, then 95% of people are verse.

To bring an extreme example: There are basically no vegans/vegetarians in existence. The definition of vegan/vegetarian means they don't eat meat. Im sure they have had meat at least once in their lives. And the ones who are vegetarian for non moral reasosn even have a day or two every several years where they try out meat again and back to not ever. But nope, they aren't actual vegetarians. Because of such a strict black and white definition.

I am sorry your previous relationship was ended over a misunderstanding of communication. But its also possible that the assumption of what YOU define things as do not align with most or many. Or maybe it DOES. The point is the ASSUMPTION was the real problem as well as lack of communication.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

here we go, because of that " everything is a gray mixture theory" that many people are misleaded and mistaken by what they are looking for and what they want.
People need to be categorized for the sake of not misunderstadings, I broke up a relationship of 15 years when my ex after all those years asked me why i never penetrated him, and I was in shock because I was always bottom as is the way i get pleasure and enjoy and he also enjoyed being the top, but afterall he wasnt and that made him not being "happy" with out sexual life, and I didnt knew his versatile side ever. So this shit of being a top while bottoming is bullshit, people who do that are lying to themselves and to others who fuck with them, there is already a word that identifies people who enjoys bottoming and topping, is called VERSATILE.

Also, when I say about everything being grey, I mean EVERYTHING. But people always ALWAYS think only on the one or two topics they personally cannot accept grey. I speak about sides of a story, perspectives, experiences, judgment, justice, morals, literal colors, relationships, interactions, decisions, EVERYTHING. There's grey in ALL of it and you and others accept it there. But when it comes to, especially this specific topic, people want to make it out as if I am or others are pushing some unknown weird concept, as if that doesnt affect evertrhing, every day, down to almost every moment.

 

[Genuinkguy]

Also, when I say about everything being grey, I mean EVERYTHING. But people always ALWAYS think only on the one or two topics they personally cannot accept grey. I speak about sides of a story, perspectives, experiences, judgment, justice, morals, literal colors, relationships, interactions, decisions, EVERYTHING. There's grey in ALL of it and you and others accept it there. But when it comes to, especially this specific topic, people want to make it out as if I am or others are pushing some unknown weird concept, as if that doesnt affect evertrhing, every day, down to almost every moment.

people who are grey cant say they are black or white, they should say they are grey, this is what I mean, specially when i looking for blacks/whites not greys

 

[Genuinkguy]

Then the term versatile is meaningless. You will find many people who are tops but have bottomed once in a few years for their partner or to mix it up once, try things out. If every one of those men are verse, then 95% of people are verse.

To bring an extreme example: There are basically no vegans/vegetarians in existence. The definition of vegan/vegetarian means they don't eat meat. Im sure they have had meat at least once in their lives. And the ones who are vegetarian for non moral reasosn even have a day or two every several years where they try out meat again and back to not ever. But nope, they aren't actual vegetarians. Because of such a strict black and white definition.

I am sorry your previous relationship was ended over a misunderstanding of communication. But its also possible that the assumption of what YOU define things as do not align with most or many. Or maybe it DOES. The point is the ASSUMPTION was the real problem as well as lack of communication.

wrong, vegetarians EAT meat but in much less quantities, vegans are the ones who are strictly no-meat at all

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

wrong, vegetarians EAT meat but in much less quantities, vegans are the ones who are strictly no-meat at all

Bro you are wrong. Vegans are more strict and don’t eat any products or by-products of animals while vegetarians don’t eat animals.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

people who are grey cant say they are black or white, they should say they are grey, this is what I mean, specially when i looking for blacks/whites not greys

Except according to you. Just like with the racist "one-drop rule". If a guy is white but has a great great great grandfather that is black. He is not white. He is "gray"(mixed) even if he looks blue-eyed, blonde and pale. This is what I mean by, we all make exceptions for the gray in life. It doesnt have to be race. We do it with literal colors.

The issue is you NEED to make a line to divide but your line is too strict and causing YOU issues. Note everyone else is not stressed about this. Only you. You claim others are causing it because you want to look for xyz. How about communicating with people and finding out what each person means when they are forced to take a label for those like yourself.

You will find that, you are basing how other people should define their selves based off YOUR INTERNAL feelings and preferences and projecting it onto everyone else as what you assume is "common sense".

 

[Cum_is_Great]

wrong, vegetarians EAT meat but in much less quantities, vegans are the ones who are strictly no-meat at all

Aaand you totally lost the point. Weither on purpose or not, I dont know. But as I like to read up on human psychology. It probably wasnt on purpose. And I'm not insulting you or trying to he dismissive. But I think your brain just is wired differently. It needs hard lines and definitions and you base them internally but apply those rules externally.

Try and work the other way around as an empathy exercise to see what I mean. Anyway... I never said your preferences are wrong. Ypu arent wrong to want what you want. And I understand why you want to find someone who aligns with that. Just remember, you, me, EVERYONE, is making lots of small assumptions and they eventually won't line up correctly. The harder the lines drawn the more likely (and catastrophic the falling out).

Edit: wrong quote post.

 

[Genuinkguy]

Aaand you totally lost the point. Weither on purpose or not, I dont know. But as I like to read up on human psychology. It probably wasnt on purpose. And I'm not insulting you or trying to he dismissive. But I think your brain just is wired differently. It needs hard lines and definitions and you base them internally but apply those rules externally.

Try and work the other way around as an empathy exercise to see what I mean. Anyway... I never said your preferences are wrong. Ypu arent wrong to want what you want. And I understand why you want to find someone who aligns with that. Just remember, you, me, EVERYONE, is making lots of small assumptions and they eventually won't line up correctly. The harder the lines drawn the more likely (and catastrophic the falling out).

Edit: wrong quote post.

wired of not, you are the one who mixing sexual preferences with skin colour from family tree.
Empathy doesnt define what you like in sex or expect from a partner who told you what he likes and then likes other thing afterall. Lines exist for a reason, and im not to strict because of my issues, people communicate by saying they like X, and im looking for X, then when we get along and stay togeher have sex several times, the person tells me they like X and Y and that I should like Y to satisty them? Im not the wrong one here. All my life i was a bottom, even when a Top tell me he is a top/versatile, I lose interest, because when I imagine a top taking in the ass it turns me off.