Mark e miller & ethan

Ethan was not saying feel sorry for me rather that he is in control of his life now and how they used their bodies and gay eroticism to get those perks you mentioned. Being a gay influencer and doing OF is similar as they exist in realm of using one’s body to attain fame and money. This was more a message for fake puritanicals who were judgmental of his choice to get into OF. They loved the shirtless pics and kissing/ basically soft core porn but draw the line at OF. It’s hypocrisy. Mark is no more better than Ethan bc he has used his body for a decade to make money. Ethan was saying fuck the shame you put on him.
I just have no sympathy for any of these social media influencers who are happy to take the money and perks, but then at some point discover that there is no such thing as a free ride and when you sell yourself, there is always a price to pay.
 
It’s hard to feel sympathetic when Ethan Hethcote has not had to work in the conventional sense, unlike most other people, since he was at University. He’s been sponsored, comped, flown overseas, etc etc. Mark never made any bones about what he wanted to do, and that was make videos which turned into a good money maker, so he didn’t have to take a job either. If you look back at their videos, Ethan was a very willing participant, and appeared to enjoy the freebies and the experience.
Yeah if you actually watch the vid he’s not asking for pity or sympathy. He’s explaining why this evolution felt right for him. And why the subscriber model of OF gives him more freedom and control vs the advertising + algorithm model of YouTube.

Among other things this video makes clear that commodifying your relationship is a terrible terrible idea. It’s poison.
 
I just have no sympathy for any of these social media influencers who are happy to take the money and perks, but then at some point discover that there is no such thing as a free ride and when you sell yourself, there is always a price to pay.
But who said you need to have sympathy lol ? Ethan is not complaining about being on OF nor is he naive. He is actually very aware of what his doing, He made money and bought land. We all pay a price too in participating in capitalism through our 9 to 5 jobs. Ethan made his bed and is fine. I don’t see where this sympathy talk is coming from. It seems like projection and nit rooted in anything he said in asking for sympathy.
 
It’s hard to feel sympathetic when Ethan Hethcote has not had to work in the conventional sense, unlike most other people, since he was at University.

I just have no sympathy for any of these social media influencers who are happy to take the money and perks
For fucks sake! We are in the digital which has opened up so many employment and entrepreneurial opportunities beyond the conventional 9-5 career. So what if he's a influencer. The money is legal and they are just helping brands get recognition through their audience. There is nothing wrong with it. Get over yourself and join the rest of us in the future.
 
I think they really should’ve separated around year 3. This would’ve given them enough time to rebrand their channels and expand their horizons. The relationship lasted more than it should have. Also the break up and getting back together never works out.
 
I think they really should’ve separated around year 3. This would’ve given them enough time to rebrand their channels and expand their horizons. The relationship lasted more than it should have. Also the break up and getting back together never works out.

Did they even ever try couples therapy, or did they just do a spend the day together to get our relationship back on track video (nature hike with Olive) video?
 
That's for if both people actually want the relationship to continue, sometimes things just end because people grow up/apart. No reason to work on staying together if what made you a couple is gone.

Actually seeing a couple’s therapist to help end and detangle your relationship breakup can be very helpful too. I speak from experience.
 
is this bitch high charging $10 for his Patreon??? As told by Kenya and Sibling Rivalry only charge $5 to watch their vids, and I would probably still sub for $10 or $15, but $10 for Mark's dry ass vlogs? Really? C'mon, sis.

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Yeah they are pretty dry. If you are gonna vlog solo you should do something interesting, not just make yourself breakfast or visit mom and dad lol
 
after yesterday's video, i can't help but see mark's dad's face on mark. they looked alike prior, you could always see the resemblance, but now that mark is older he's looking more and more like his dad, facewise, and dear lord it's offputting
 
after yesterday's video, i can't help but see mark's dad's face on mark. they looked alike prior, you could always see the resemblance, but now that mark is older he's looking more and more like his dad, facewise, and dear lord it's offputting
They've always looked alike. Marks face is just fuller now than it used to be. You can see cheekbones when he was slimmer. But with the identical 5 o'clock shadow and fullness in the face, you can see his resemblance.
 
Both Mark and Ethan have descended fast into butterfacedom, especially Ethan. They had an extremely short window of being quite hot generally. Like most young dudes have, though, with a decent amount of testosterone at the right time.
I think Ethan still looks hot (personally, minus the tattoos but whatever) o_O
 
Both Mark and Ethan have descended fast into butterfacedom, especially Ethan. They had an extremely short window of being quite hot generally. Like most young dudes have, though, with a decent amount of testosterone at the right time.
Mark is still handsome to me. He's not in his prime but I wouldn't classify him as a butterface lol
 
Ethan used to look cute, but I don't think that anymore. Mark used to look hot. He's lost the edge a little, but he's still handsome. I see a lot of sadness in Mark's eyes and I generally sense sadness from him. I think he was hurt badly by the break up, and certainly much more than Ethan who I just get a toxic vibe from now.