I couldn't care less about seeing a friend naked, but most younger straight guys just think nudity equals sex and looking at a dick is gay, and worst of all, if you get caught looking at a dick you will be perceived as gay by your buddies.
Men who feel uncomfortable with nudity and seeing other men's junk in locker rooms, Why?
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I don't pretend that the US isn't a flawed nation, but a lot of people not from the US seem to have this ingrained notion that because they don't like or don't feel fully comfortable here that it's some indication of an inherent flaw in our culture; I find it ironic since the stereotype of the boorish American is one that goes abroad and has the exact same attitude about foreign cultures.A bit rude answer from someone from such a polite and least destructive nation
I've never had an issue getting naked in the changing room or showering with others. I grew up with open gang showers and nudity was the norm, friends, work colleagues, team mates and opposition all showered together. UK is often thought of being quite reserved, but that never used to be the case.
Don't mind being seen naked, and I used to enjoy the camaraderie of being naked, seeing all the different sizes and shapes on display.
These days the younger generation are terrified of being seen nude, I even feel awkward undressing when they are in the changing room at the gym!
Don't mind being seen naked, and I used to enjoy the camaraderie of being naked, seeing all the different sizes and shapes on display.
These days the younger generation are terrified of being seen nude, I even feel awkward undressing when they are in the changing room at the gym!
Everything is inverted. When I was growing up, nudity in showers was expected and if someone did the towel dance and covered up they might be mocked. There would not be any chance of us taking photos of our dangly bits, let alone publishing these photos.
These days people won't be naked in front of their friends but completely OK with posting pics of their bits on line.
I think its a bit weird that society has flipped.
These days people won't be naked in front of their friends but completely OK with posting pics of their bits on line.
I think its a bit weird that society has flipped.
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I agree that men over a certain age are more comfortable being naked around other men. After all, we were all in a big room to change for gym class and the shower afterward was a long narrow area with lots of shower heads. No dividers, no curtains. For us, naked is natural. I think the younger generations it's more a mix of modesty ( loose fitting boxer shorts and the like) and homophobia. My personal example is a time when I went to a younger friends house because we were going to ride horses. It was after work so I needed to change into jeans and that I did right in front of him. He looked shocked and went outside. When I went out he gave me a long speech about he wasn't gay and didn't like gay things.
Truly Straight guys do not want to see another guys dick.
I do the towel dance out of respect for fellow gym goers..
I do the towel dance out of respect for fellow gym goers..
that’s the thing. It’s like a catch-22.
if nudity doesn’t matter, than guys would feel free to change openly. Because it’s not sexual and no one cares….
BUT, if you DO care….. enough to complain about it on forums…. Then it DOES matter… and that’s why guys would choose to be modest.
it’s like complaining that women won’t participate in a wet t-shirt contest because they should be comfortable with their bodies…
Growing up in Phoenix I took swimming lessons at the YMCA (yes, the Y-M-C-A LOL). Everybody was nude. Adults down to the kids taking the lessons. No bid deal. At college in Los Angeles the gym had pole showers, maybe 4-5 around a pole. Just the way it was. Not a big deal, but interesting to see the difference in guys dicks. Fast forward to when I belonged to 24hr Fitness. Due to a few closures I ended up in West Hollywood and I was surprised considering the assortment of guys belonging there how many covered up, as this post has discussed. I saw guys loose their balance trying to do the towel underwear dance. And we had actual shower doors and guys would come out in their tighty whities soaking wet meaning they showered in them inside a closed shower. Give me a break, get over it.
fusey_oct22
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Australia is younger and seems to have less of an issue with nudity.
The US seems unable to separate nudity and sex. Here in the UK, we're a halfway house between the US and continental Europe, which has a more relaxed attitude. You don't just see this in locker rooms, but also in the country's culture. Excessive violence in films is often treated more lightly by the censors than brief nudity. Just look at how video sharing sites take down or restrict even non-sexual nudity, because most are based on US morality.
But, as jogger says, they are happy to use it when it benefits them commercially. I've lost count of the number of click bait videos I've seen which purport to show nudity, but then you've find they seem to think people are born wearing underwear...
fusey_oct22
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Then they don't need to look.
Honestly, it's people doing the whole towel dance thing or other bizarre behaviour that attracts my attention. On one occasion, when a guy was sat there wrapped in a towel and playing with their phone, it looked like they were rubbing their crotch rather than drying themselves. That's more disturbing than someone briefly being exposed while changing.
I'm not suggesting everyone should walk around swinging their cocks about, but just do what you feel comfortable with without feeling you have to make things awkward for yourself by covering. Or, in other words, whatever you'd do at home.
Is it not uncomfortable to not be able to get properly dry, because you're worried about moving your towel away from your dick? I see so many guys with noticeable damp patches on their boxers, it just makes me wonder whether it's worth the hassle.
That's the thing. Thinking "truly straight guys don't want to see another guy's dick" is something just newer generations believe. If you ask my dad (who grew up in the 60s) he will not blink an eye in front of another man naked, because seeing other guys' dick was normal. I remember a friend of my dad who used to say that real men are not ashamed of being nude and don't hide behind towels at the gym. That was the mentality because nudity and being naked among men were not attached to sex or homosexuality.
It used to be common for football and rugby players to share a team bath afterwards, so there was certainly no shyness back then. That was in grass roots teams right up to the top divisions.
Also was common for coal miners to buddy up in the showers and help wash each other... backs usually, the bits hard to reach on your own when you're covered head to toe in coal dust.
Also was common for coal miners to buddy up in the showers and help wash each other... backs usually, the bits hard to reach on your own when you're covered head to toe in coal dust.
What I find odd is that most men like myself, millennial and up don't really notice this awkwardness that seems to be so evident to generations past. It's telling how noticeable the need to cover up is to some folks, when I'm guessing those same folks covering up have little to no idea what nudity avoidance anyone else is practicing. The fact it's a thing that keeps getting brought up sort of further justifies the modern urge to not be as freely nude amongst men, as it seems to be such a hot topic of discussion.
That does sound a bit extreme and quite funny, im not bothered about people seeing me (was in the Army) I just don’t want to be that ‘hey everybody look at my dick guy’
Check your trigger...I'm not saying nudity is inherently impolite, I'm saying that for many households nudity stops being a communal norm once an individual has the ability to wash/dress themselves; something that typically becomes more evident if there are opposite genders within the home. Within that context, no different, then say knocking on a closed door to ensure the occupant is "decent" before entering, do many people consider nudity to be a private thing akin to defecation, to which most people have no issue with a desire for privacy. I've yet to come across a locker room that didn't have shower, or toilet stalls that people utilize for nude times, then use the locker room common area for putting on clothes over underwear.
I think there are two issues here: Those who are uncomfortable with nudity and those who try not to look at another man's junk, or at least seen to be.
There are way too many explanations for the first: religious scruples, feelings of inadequacy (especially in light of porn's overwhelming use of well hung actors), etc. I think the avoidance of looking at other men's cocks stems from fear that others will assume it's homosexually motivated. "Hey, you queer or something?"
I know that's the explanation for my own avoidance of too much gandering -- or the appearance of such -- as I do (covertly) scope other guys out; the old casual scan of the environment routine. I grew up in sports. I've long been conscious there's a subtle undertone of homoeroticism in sports, but it's usually covered over by an ostentatious layer of (sometimes faux) heterosexual masculinity.
IRL, looking at other men's privates may just be simple curiosity, but often there's more to it. I'm a total exhibitionist -- love to show off my body (and little dick) -- but admit to great unease when a guy contorts his body like a pretzel or stands on tiptoes to check me out at the urinal. I never feel comfortable when a guy strikes up a conversation in the locker room but never looks me in the eye and instead keeps his gaze permanently locked on my nether regions. (Which perpetually perplexes me: other than my big balls, there's very little to see own there. Are they pubic hair freaks?)
I guess I grew up in a world where to be caught looking too long and hard at a guys dick was considered "gay", the worst accusation that could be leveled at a teenager. And that wan't that long ago.
There are way too many explanations for the first: religious scruples, feelings of inadequacy (especially in light of porn's overwhelming use of well hung actors), etc. I think the avoidance of looking at other men's cocks stems from fear that others will assume it's homosexually motivated. "Hey, you queer or something?"
I know that's the explanation for my own avoidance of too much gandering -- or the appearance of such -- as I do (covertly) scope other guys out; the old casual scan of the environment routine. I grew up in sports. I've long been conscious there's a subtle undertone of homoeroticism in sports, but it's usually covered over by an ostentatious layer of (sometimes faux) heterosexual masculinity.
IRL, looking at other men's privates may just be simple curiosity, but often there's more to it. I'm a total exhibitionist -- love to show off my body (and little dick) -- but admit to great unease when a guy contorts his body like a pretzel or stands on tiptoes to check me out at the urinal. I never feel comfortable when a guy strikes up a conversation in the locker room but never looks me in the eye and instead keeps his gaze permanently locked on my nether regions. (Which perpetually perplexes me: other than my big balls, there's very little to see own there. Are they pubic hair freaks?)
I guess I grew up in a world where to be caught looking too long and hard at a guys dick was considered "gay", the worst accusation that could be leveled at a teenager. And that wan't that long ago.
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I fully agree with your post. Reading your post I immediately thought you must be from England. I know you're not going to believe me. ''Was sat'' is really not correct English, it should just be 'sat'. I moved to the UK from another English speaking country and find it strange that the people use stood and sat incorrectly. 'He is sat on the chair while she is stood outside.'
But women should participate in wet t-shirt contests to be more comfortable with their bodies.
fusey_oct22
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Well, I wasn't expecting a grammar critique, of all things! Yeah, you're right, it's dialectical, rather than accurate. It felt odd when I wrote it to be honest, but I wasn't going for correctness. It should be "was sitting there".
