Michael hoffman

It’s been clear for over a decade. His lawyers claims have always been Thierry Pepin was underage when he made that porn scene and it doesn’t matter if it was a week or the day before his 18th birthday. It was enough for the company to edit the movie and cut out the scene from the movie. Doesn’t matter what you think or your spin on it.

I didn't spin. I acknowledged limited info and allowed that I could be wrong w/r/t Pepin. I'm not sure how he or Corrigan relate to the MH scenario since it was a third party porn company publishing the Pepin and Corrigan material, not Pepin and Corrigan themselves. But you've expressed your point, marshaled your evidence (incorrectly, I believe on some counts), and I've made my points. Continuing to debate is useless since you will conjure up yet another non-analogous case to "refute".
 
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All three lied about their age and made sexually explicit content for money. Two for companies and one, Michael did it on his own. Regardless, what Michael did was illegal and you still want to act like a underage Michael has a legal right to take nudes of himself and show them to whomever. Just him having nude photos of himself on his phone underage, Michael (as I have shown) is in possession of child porn.

You keep shifting. Now the money they were paid is probative. Moreover, you lump together two distinct issues: whether something is illegal, and whether it is prosecuted. For your examples of "all three" to work, you would need for Pepin and Corrigan to have been prosecuted for lying about their age and therefore responsible for the dissemination by others of child porn. Do you have proof that they were prosecuted? No. The remedy wasn't prosecuting them for child porn, but getting the porn removed. And, in the case of Brent Corrigan, there was a fair amount of evidence that the owner of Cobra studios knew Corrigan was underage.
 
No screenshot needed. I meant that in general, sorry, I didn’t mean you personally.

Ok. More spin, you love that don’t you. When did this become about Michael being convicted of making child porn?
Was Traci Lords prosecuted for making porn when she was underage? She did the same thing Thierry and Brent did and weren’t prosecuted. When sexting and revenge porn started to become a big then prosecutors began to start charging the teenagers themselves to show that even them making the images/media themselves it’s illegal and didn’t need a third party for a crime to have occurred. Michael could be prosecuted, as a member here who wanted to change the subject to avoid Michael possibly getting into trouble acknowledged. It still doesn’t absolve anyone of having those videos because now we know, JSL, that it contains an underage individual.

Spin? You're the one who keeps shifting your argument when your evidence fails to support your claim. No one, and certainly not I, has made conviction a prerequisite for anything. You claimed minors are prosecuted for disseminating pornographic images of themselves. I pointed out that all of your examples are cases where a second minor is targeted or is otherwise sent the images, which is not MH's situation. Then, you shift to examples of guys who lied about their age to porn companies. I point out that they/the minors were not prosecuted and therefore their cases don't support your claim that minors are prosecuted for general distribution of porn. Now, you twist the non-prosecution into the straw argument no one made -- that we're resting on a lack of convictions against the minors.

You are like a dog with a bone. You've made your arguments. I've made mine. Other readers can see them and decide which arguments are more tenable. Give it a rest.
 
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From where? What language is that word? His Twitter hasn't been updated since July 4th? That's a familiar date isn't it?

It’s from his personal instagram. That language is russian, cos my instagram app is in russian language