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Are you saying you knowingly have sex with people who are cheating on their partners? Because that’s unfair to the partner who is being cheated on. The person cheating on their partner is most at fault because they’re the one who committed to a relationship, but you’re enabling their behavior.
I once hooked up with a guy who told me he was single, only to find out he had a husband and kid, and had also lied to me about his name and occupation. I confronted him about it and he said his husband wasn’t fulfilling his sexual needs. My response was that was his problem to work out with his husband. I never talked to him again.
Anyone else worried about public backlash if this spreads outside of the majority of gay men? Just seems like the next "gay plague" people will be all too happy to preach about and condemn gay men...
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Well it looks like it's really flaring up in the states with the large urban areas. I would assume this is due to the large availability of casual/annon hookups. Just heard on NPR today that San Francisco declared a public health emergency. Sadly this is not simply a passing some fluids issue that a condoms can prevent. Simply frotting and skin to skin contact can spread it. Not good...
Monkeypox in the U.S.
Monkeypox in the U.S.
Ok - that may work for Geese, but not for people, least of all horny gay men. We are hard wired with the primal need to spread our seed far and wide.
Men, no matter their sexuality, always use this as an excuse to sleep around, as if humans aren’t also capable of self control. Besides, gay men aren’t getting anyone pregnant, so that makes the “spread our seed far and wide” excuse even more lame.
Sexual repression, self control and monogamy are all artificial constraints dreamed up by and forced upon people by corrupt organized religion as yet another way to control people. Just say no to that shit.
So you’re saying humans shouldn’t practice any self control and that self control was invented by organized religion? That’s BS. It sounds like you’re ok with people cheating on their spouses rather than practicing self control. Also, monogamy is safer from a public health perspective because it limits the spread of disease.
Bodies in close proximity spread monkey pox. Sex makes it even easier since there is skin touching. Bottom line, Pride brought groups of gays together in different venues. The time that this took off was right when the Pride events began taking place.
I’m with you. This line of thinking has really gotten old. There is a good reason for monogamy and there’s a reason why disease has run rampant in the male gay community. Gay men report being incredibly lonely and high rates of STDs. Monogamy would cure both these things. Have your fun but this idea that if you settle down you’re somehow giving into some archaic practice is complete nonsense and foolishness.
There were 4th of July parades too, though, and we haven’t seen anywhere near the same of level of transmission among straight people. Parades don’t involve much physical contact. Crowded and sweaty dance parties maybe, but not parades. Most of the transmission probably occurred due to all of the sex that goes on in-between Pride festivities.
Yes I’m saying that I’m sure some of my clients are in relationships. They come for lots of reasons, including companionship and intimacy. I don’t judge them. I’m not bothered if people judge me though because there’s all sorts of different opinions out there about things. I see your point but I don’t agree that being in a committed relationship should always include sexual fidelity.
Yes it is likely to spread infection. Important to have regular tests and avoid dangerous activities. Also to get vaccinated.
But shouldn’t the committed relationship include sexual fidelity if both partners haven’t consented to making the relationship an open one? Don’t you think it’s unfair to the one partner if they’re being kept in the dark?
If it’s been agreed between both that they’ll be exclusive then it’s the responsibility of the person who wants to break that to raise it with their partner. It’s not my responsibility to second guess what’s going on in someone’s relationship. To shift even part of the ‘blame’ is to absolve yourself of responsibility. It’s akin to the argument that some irresponsible people use when they say someone dressed provocatively was responsible for being raped for example. The only person responsible is the rapist.
A gay person contracted it. That’s why. They congregated with other gays. This isn’t rocket science. Regardless, you don’t need to be having sex to get it. It’s skin to skin contact. Thats why children have it. That’s why entire continents have it. I’m sure people were having sex and got it, but Pride is what brought loads of gays together all in the same place. It was the perfect opportunity for it to spread. Whether they got it from bumping and grinding, kissing, bumping into one another, or actual fucking, wasn’t and isn’t the point. Pride was happening right around the time the levels spiked. You’re always going to be at your most vulnerable during sex because clothes are generally off and skin touches. I’m sure oral sex, where your face is up close to someone’s genitals, is also a great way to get it as it’s an area where people find outbreaks, along with the face, hands, butt, etc. That being said, you can get it from touching hands. Thankfully, I live in an area that has mass vaccination sites and people are getting vaccinated. You already know my thoughts on promiscuity, so I don’t need to go on a rant about that.
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CDC states that transmission can occur from hugging and massage. Given the incubation of this virus it's bound to explode across many populations.
I'm worried about the homeless and transient who already don't have access to clean and sanitary facilities.
I'm worried about the homeless and transient who already don't have access to clean and sanitary facilities.
No, it’s mostly the responsibility of the person who is in a committed relationship. But if you knowingly have sex with somebody who is cheating, you are at least partly responsible because you are enabling their behavior. It is immoral and unethical to have sex with somebody knowing they are cheating on their significant other.
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