Nico tortorella

[johnjohnston]

And yet, you felt the need to get your toxic two cents in.

Where is the toxicity? The dude flat-out said he wasn’t “gay” because he has female friends. He said he doesn’t like hanging out with “gay” dudes much. He held a “queer event” but only wanted women and trans people to attend. He said people shouldn’t identify as “gay” but didn’t come at any other identities. He did several professional photo shoots and interviews with his “boyfriend” who he’d literally been dating for a few weeks and then broke up with a few weeks later. He said bottoming doesn’t make him less masculine, which is a toxic thing to be paranoid about considering that he identified as “non-binary” for years.

I actually kept up with his interviews and the things he’s said on social media, unlike many of you. He definitely said and did a lot of toxic, problematic and narcissistic shit. I personally don’t hold much against him because I get how difficult the terrain of queerness, fluidity, questioning, traumas, mental health, the gender, sexual, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum can be, especially for public figures. But a lot of y’all who are defending him entirely low-key have some internal resentments going on yourself and choose to ignore all the mess he’s said and done.

 

[johnjohnston]

Where is the toxicity? The dude flat-out said he wasn’t “gay” because he has female friends. He said he doesn’t like hanging out with “gay” dudes much. He held a “queer event” but only wanted women and trans people to attend. He said people shouldn’t identify as “gay” but didn’t come at any other identities. He did several professional photo shoots and interviews with his “boyfriend” who he’d literally been dating for a few weeks and then broke up with a few weeks later. He said bottoming doesn’t make him less masculine, which is a toxic thing to be paranoid about considering that he identified as “non-binary” for years.

I actually kept up with his interviews and the things he’s said on social media, unlike many of you. He definitely said and did a lot of toxic, problematic and narcissistic shit. I personally don’t hold much against him because I get how difficult the terrain of queerness, fluidity, questioning, traumas, mental health, the gender, sexual, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum can be, especially for public figures. But a lot of y’all who are defending him entirely low-key have some internal resentments going on yourself and choose to ignore all the mess he’s said and done.

He’s one of the reasons I’ve become more okay with celebs being closeted. It’s better to be closeted or very low-key than to constantly lean on queerness for pubic validation and be super messy, toxic and reactionary in interviews and on social media. That ultimately does more harm than good.

He was one of the first semi celebs to publicly talk about gender/sexual fluidity and questioning and contradictions. So, I do give him props for that.

 

[johnjohnston]

HDbiker, you’re the one calling my comments “toxic” when Nico literally spent years saying and doing tons of toxic shit and never apologized for any of it or clarified anything later. I’ve said multiple times on here that claiming he was “baiting” is wrong and that we have to accept people’s journeys and struggles. I’ve called out poster’s basic or toxic viewpoints. But acting like he didn’t bring a lot of resentments onto himself is kinda silly and is vaguely homophobic. But do you boo. I understand a lot of y’all can’t have nuanced conversation and a lot of y’all are closeted and/or dealing with your own struggles and insecurities and self-understanding. The conversation isn’t really even about Nico himself but queer politics and general self-understanding and insecurities. I’m definitely done.

 

[techphil92]

Where is the toxicity? The dude flat-out said he wasn’t “gay” because he has female friends. He said he doesn’t like hanging out with “gay” dudes much. He held a “queer event” but only wanted women and trans people to attend. He said people shouldn’t identify as “gay” but didn’t come at any other identities. He did several professional photo shoots and interviews with his “boyfriend” who he’d literally been dating for a few weeks and then broke up with a few weeks later. He said bottoming doesn’t make him less masculine, which is a toxic thing to be paranoid about considering that he identified as “non-binary” for years.

I actually kept up with his interviews and the things he’s said on social media, unlike many of you. He definitely said and did a lot of toxic, problematic and narcissistic shit. I personally don’t hold much against him because I get how difficult the terrain of queerness, fluidity, questioning, traumas, mental health, the gender, sexual, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum can be, especially for public figures. But a lot of y’all who are defending him entirely low-key have some internal resentments going on yourself and choose to ignore all the mess he’s said and done.

Thank you! I agree he’s accusing my community of toxicity when he’s spread a lot of incredible toxic comments and behaviors. He can sit and spin.

 

[johnjohnston]

Thank you! I agree he’s accusing my community of toxicity when he’s spread a lot of incredible toxic comments and behaviors. He can sit and spin.

A lot of comments in this thread are indeed “toxic” or at least poorly researched or just mean. And that’s from both folks who are defending Nico and the ones who are critical of him.

 

[techphil92]

A lot of comments in this thread are indeed “toxic” or at least poorly researched or just mean. And that’s from both folks who are defending Nico and the ones who are critical of him.

Agreed, ppl shouldn’t be nasty online. But I have a problem with ppl victimizing themself, blaming a minority group for it when he himself has done the same thing.

 

[VivienneCreamsicle]

he's so handsome and sexy, he should be more famous

For what… like honestly he’s cute but always been a whole khia rightfully so. He just lives with his mid wife and post mid content

 

[Dooditstyler]

Nico Tortorella no longer uses they/them pronouns: "I feel like a man more than I ever have" - Queerty

Oh damn. He pulled a Demi Lovato on us.

 

[5ye45]

Oh damn. He pulled a Demi Lovato on us.

I think Demi said she still feels like she did, but it became too tiresome to try to get people use the right words.

 

[Jay684]

Some pics from his instagram today.

 

[Aglaophotis]

 

[Nagai]

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Love his hairy chest

 

[Justlookn2c]

Where is the toxicity? The dude flat-out said he wasn’t “gay” because he has female friends. He said he doesn’t like hanging out with “gay” dudes much. He held a “queer event” but only wanted women and trans people to attend. He said people shouldn’t identify as “gay” but didn’t come at any other identities. He did several professional photo shoots and interviews with his “boyfriend” who he’d literally been dating for a few weeks and then broke up with a few weeks later. He said bottoming doesn’t make him less masculine, which is a toxic thing to be paranoid about considering that he identified as “non-binary” for years.

I actually kept up with his interviews and the things he’s said on social media, unlike many of you. He definitely said and did a lot of toxic, problematic and narcissistic shit. I personally don’t hold much against him because I get how difficult the terrain of queerness, fluidity, questioning, traumas, mental health, the gender, sexual, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum can be, especially for public figures. But a lot of y’all who are defending him entirely low-key have some internal resentments going on yourself and choose to ignore all the mess he’s said and done.

I completely agree with everything you said.