There are a couple places located near me that opened up over the past year. Both are commercial spaces that offer a play area for men. I've not been to either yet. But it's mentioned a lot on Sniffies. They only charge like $20 so may try one out when I get the opportunity.
If "some men's desires change as they age" then sexual preference is "nurture" and not "nature." Being "born this way" has been a mainstay of the gay community for a very long time so any assertion that a heterosexual man changes to a homosexual man contradicts that precept. The entire logic is problematic and may reveal hypocrisy; i.e., a straight man can become gay but a gay man cannot become straight, or a gay man, given sufficient influence, can be "reformed." Such notions have long been rejected but are the logical extension of your questions. One may be homosexual and not act on it sexually until later in life, but that doesn't mean he changed his sexual preference. However, we cannot know until he does act on it, or otherwise so identifies. I agree it is likely a small percentage of married men -- more likely, tiny -- because, according to a great deal of data, a small percentage of men identify as bisexual in the first place.
The statistic, or rather a statistical outcome, arises from surveys done of the general population, not merely restricted to LBGTQ. I know it is a difficult pill to swallow for some, but easily obtained data across all kinds of studies and surveys show a very small percentage of the male population identifies as bisexual. Consequently, it stands to reason that one would expect a fraction of that small percentage would be married, which was the gist of the post to which I responded.
Surveys are much like election polls. Based on the answers from those willing to answer. Even if you posted a poll here... It would be skewed for multiple reasons. I can say this: As a percentage of guys around my area cruising at parks or on a hookup app... Many are married. Now even that is skewed because as a percentage of the total male population... It's a minuscule number... But enough for me.
Some are surveys and some are studies. You can justify a wrongheaded belief any way you please, but it is not supported by the overwhelming weight of the data. My question is why? Why is it necessary to be so delusional? Is one somehow justified if one belongs to a bigger club? Is it not possible to be an independently-thinking person if others do not think the same in sufficient number?Surveys are much like election polls. Based on the answers from those willing to answer. Even if you posted a poll here... It would be skewed for multiple reasons. I can say this: As a percentage of guys around my area cruising at parks or on a hookup app... Many are married. Now even that is skewed because as a percentage of the total male population... It's a minuscule number... But enough for me.
Now of that population... If there were more tops... That would be better.
I often think about the anticipation of it all. I look online... See a few guys posting within the range of my local park. I go there and post my arrival... Then get out of the car and start walking to the back of the park on a long walkway that the other guys sitting in their cars can see. My heart always races a bit.
....very interesting, informative, sort of intriguing due to how to this reader, it is vital to your level of comfort that you have a spouse who is just as comfortable letting you be you as you allow yourself to expand your sphere and take pleasure in appreciating those (few) men you find attractive enough to be turned on by. I came out of a marriage at 47 partially due to not having that level of accommodating sexual exploration on her part, and have now been married to my 27yr younger husband for 21 years, with zero interest sexually in women, yet love the emotional support I enjoy with a number of 'girlfriends' I regularly have coffee with.
Not wanting to go all-in on this, at all at all, I'll just make the observation (mine alone based on me alone) that data is data and surveys are surveys, meaning, they are dependent not only on the willingness to be forthcoming about intimate personal matters, but also on how the question is phrased and put to potential responders. I am great friends with a bi man who's always been so (early and significant experiences with boys), happily married with 5 children, and continuing to have illicit affairs with similar men in his small-town, rural region of Canada. Most definitely he would never disclose this to his wife (nor to anyone in a survey) that he is bi, due to his own psychological need to keep everything tidily compartmentalized to ensure a good night's sleep. IOW, while not giving a 'grain of salt' to sociologists conducting surveys, I nonetheless have concluded that while coming out as gay (which I did, out of a traditional marriage with kids at age 47) is relatively acceptable and doable, coming out as bi is much thornier. Why? Gay men often stigmatize them as in-between ('make up your mind, dude--which is it? Men or women?') and certainly women can easily have issues, especially if they are monogamous and expect nothing less of their partner.
The notion that data is flawed and surveys suffer from selection bias is an old, tired refuge for people who do not want to accept statistical outcomes. Another old canard is picking out a specific personal experience that provides an exception to the rule and then implying that that exception establishes an alternate rule. Consistent outcomes over years of numerous studies should be regarded, even when they run counter to one's desired outcomes. My continuing question is why do people (read, "bisexuals") so strenuously reject the outcomes? Is a bigger club required to validate one's sexual preference? Does a threat exist today to one's individual sexual choice when that choice is not the popular one? Are bisexual men too weak to stand up for their preference against those ol' mean gay men?
It may very well be that my response wasn't clearly expressed enough. If so, please excuse my lack of clarity. Far--far--from intending to make an assertion that properly conducted surveys warrant immediate suspicion and dismissal, what was being conveyed was a personal feeling--not a conspiracy theory or trashing of sociological science re: human sexuality, but merely a positing of personal (and therefore exceedingly limited gleanings based on personal life experience) interactions with those who are, in my mind, bisexual, yet are averse to 'coming out' even (my observations only) to themselves, much less to any statistician or researcher. There is, as you (IMO) accurately question, a shadow side to owning one's bisexuality? Having both been married to a woman for 15 years and now married to a man for 21, and a father, I know I'm myself not bisexual--not because I find the categorization offensive, far from it--but simply because it was societal pressure which made me feel the great need to be accepted as 'normal', as well as my desire to be. Therefore, I was detrimentally going against my birth orientation (which I fully accept as how we are, indeed, designated to live out our sexuality) in order to fit in. Fifty years ago this was how many felt, and societal pressure was huge, especially when coupled with religious upbringing.
That would be a safe OPINION.... I would agree.
Well said. Yours was a response and clarification that advances the discussion.
What do most of them want to do sexually more than anything? suck cock?
Most want me to suck their cock there are a few though that want a cock in their ass. Some of them after i suck their cock and drain their balls that is all they want and leave in a hurry.
There is a site called Double List that sort of replaced Craigslist that you might want to check out. You might already know about it, as it has been around for a while. It's a great place for you to find married cock to suck.
