For the guys who like this stuff, what do you get out of this? You do know that this makes the gay community look bad. I'm coming from a place where I think that gay need to argue that we were born this way and that we need respectability politics.
I'm a homosexual male that wants middle class respectability. The more you engage in these efforts the more you make harder for the homosexuals who want to assimilate and gain social status.
I'm conflicted in that people can do what they want, but on the other hand, homosexual men aren't in a position to do anything that can set gay rights back. Frankly, this thread and those porn stars might as well declare themselves as bisexual.
We could use this for many aspects of being gay.
We could all dress conservatively, agree to never take drugs or alcohol of any kind, only have one partner, and wait until marriage (or, as that and other forms of legal partnership will likely be banned within the next few years, a commitment ceremony) to have sex.
It still would not be enough.
Nothing we do is ever going to be good enough.
If you say, "born this way," they will either eventually try to rewrite genes to eradicate homosexuality, or they will say, "Then stay celibate, because otherwise you're going to hell."
One of the big voices out there now on the right, Michael Knowles (who played gay roles before his acting career completely failed), gave a speech a few days ago berating the "liberal" Supreme Court for overturning sodomy laws.
That's the world they want to return to. Destruction of any right to privacy. Invading a place where you want to meet like minds. Or even your own home. On top of the laws currently forcing gay people to leave teaching jobs, and the various efforts to shut down anti-discrimination laws that prevent firings for being gay.
Assimilation in 2023 means you stay alone, you stay closeted, and then, if you're lucky, they might wait to leave you as one of the last they're coming after.
I am not interested in respectability politics, especially when those who try so hard to be as respectable as possible are still smeared just as much as the most debauched stereotype around.
Porn with gay men and women is a niche of a niche of a niche. It's not making gay men look bad. The only people who even really care are gay men.
If this was a real genre to potentially do damage, then we would have seen a whole boomlet in "inspirational" movies about gay men finding love through women (and Jesus) the way we saw a boomlet in anti-abortion films and religious biopics. The market just isn't there, because they just want us buried, either deep in the closet, or in the ground, whichever comes first.