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ngl it is kinda interesting seeing both arguments for each side and i get where both are coming from. basically from what i gathered:

one side is saying it's simply a fantasy fetish with no grounds in reality and is only there for them to pleasure themselves to while the straight 4 pay guys are simply doing a job, which IS true it IS just a job and essentially no different than an actor in a blockbuster movie. i said this before but i personally don't really care if a gay pornstar fucks a woman, if the guy is hot just block out the woman when i watch stuff like this, like i do with straight porn.

the other side is upset because they see this as conversion therapy because the whole "gay 2 straight" things and the actual conversion fetish stuff that's pretty common for this type of topic. straight people have never been forced to undergo conversion therapy so the "straight 2 gay" stuff is far more fictionalized than "gay 2 straight" which has and still does exist in reality, i get why people would be upset by it and i do find the conversion fetish stuff really gross tbh.

i don't agree this is ACTUAL conversion therapy but i absolutely do see where these people are coming from, but at the same time the gays who do have sex with women are simply just trying to get paid. i don't think a lot of people work retail or fast food jobs do it because they love getting fucked over all the time lmfao i also see why people would be upset at bisexuals lying to their audience because i guess that's kinda scummy and really shouldn't lie but at the same time does it really matter that much?

i know this message won't stop future arguments but i'd hope to explain both sides from what i've gathered and personally feel
 
I think the other side would be valid if anyone who enjoys this content was actively expressing that they like it because they have some sort of “conversion fetish”

But some of us who enjoy it have actually already articulated and expressed why we like it or at least find it interesting/erotic enough to watch.

The problem that always seems to happen is that people who don’t have any interest in this type of content see the thread topic, immediately give into base impulse, enter the thread and try and talk about how it’s harmful, and attack, this that and the other, when if they stopped and thought for a second, where if people were in here actively perpetuating some sort of harmful, “we can convert the gays!” Agenda or mentality, the mods would have shut it down a long time ago.


I think furry porn is weird, I think it’s definitely questionable, but do you see me entering a thread on furries getting their freak on? No, I mind my business and go into threads about people/subjects I actually like.
 
Just remember that the vast majority of so called “gay “ porn stars are not actually gay.
The thing to remember is to not put any real stock in what people who charge you money to watch them have sex tell you about their sexual orientation. Some people have made porn such a center of their world that they genuinely believer interchangeable sex workers are going to cause waves of conversions or homophobia if they start taking money to have sex with women instead of taking money to have sex with men.
 
The thing to remember is to not put any real stock in what people who charge you money to watch them have sex tell you about their sexual orientation. Some people have made porn such a center of their world that they genuinely believer interchangeable sex workers are going to cause waves of conversions or homophobia if they start taking money to have sex with women instead of taking money to have sex with men.

Most porn stars are bisexual and straight and sleep with anyone for money I know that but what I think is strange is the fact that anyone can watch straight porn if they want to but why create a thread where you want to see specifically “gay” men have sex with females? Especially when in reality you should know that gay men are not attracted to women. That is what I think is rooted in homophobia.
 
Most porn stars are bisexual and straight and sleep with anyone for money I know that but what I think is strange is the fact that anyone can watch straight porn if they want to but why create a thread where you want to see specifically “gay” men have sex with females? Especially when in reality you should know that gay men are not attracted to women. That is what I think is rooted in homophobia.

Ok, why don't you try and scroll down the past comments here and seek for any kind of homophobic stuff? I'm not dismissing your concerns, they're legit, but nobody has ever hinted to a sort of straight superiority, which would be extremely problematic. We're just enjoying a kink, and still making this a safe space. Hope this helped answering your questions.
 
Ok, why don't you try and scroll down the past comments here and seek for any kind of homophobic stuff? I'm not dismissing your concerns, they're legit, but nobody has ever hinted to a sort of straight superiority, which would be extremely problematic. We're just enjoying a kink, and still making this a safe space. Hope this helped answering your questions.
You are enjoying a kink watching so called “gay” men have sex with women knowing full well that gay men are not attracted to women and have literally fought for decades to have their sexuality respected. We live in a society where heterosexuality is thrown in our faces every day and gay men still face discrimination and oppression for their sexuality until they conform to heteronormativity. So yes creating a thread where you want to see specifically gay men have sex with females when you could watch straight porn anywhere is rooted in homophobia.
 
You are enjoying a kink watching so called “gay” men have sex with women knowing full well that gay men are not attracted to women and have literally fought for decades to have their sexuality respected. We live in a society where heterosexuality is thrown in our faces every day and gay men still face discrimination and oppression for their sexuality until they conform to heteronormativity. So yes creating a thread where you want to see specifically gay men have sex with females when you could watch straight porn anywhere is rooted in homophobia.

We have tons and tons of erotic literature for gay men with the plot of seducing a straight man for a one night stand. Porn productions for gay men have had used the same plot for a lot of movies. Why can't we imagine the same, but on the other side? And no, our kinks here are not about common gay men, but talents using their bodies for the required content, actors performing a scene. There's a huge difference.
 
We have tons and tons of erotic literature for gay men with the plot of seducing a straight man for a one night stand. Porn productions for gay men have had used the same plot for a lot of movies. Why can't we imagine the same, but on the other side? And no, our kinks here are not about common gay men, but talents using their bodies for the required content, actors performing a scene. There's a huge difference.
Because straight people have historically never been oppressed for their sexuality or been pressured to change? There is a difference in power dynamics here. Gay men are not attracted to vaginas so why would you want to see them having sex with one? If you want to see a guy put his dick in one watch straight porn.
 
Because straight people have historically never been oppressed for their sexuality or been pressured to change? There is a difference in power dynamics here. Gay men are not attracted to vaginas so why would you want to see them having sex with one? If you want to see a guy put his dick in one watch straight porn.
Again, I understand your perspective and I see where you're coming from.
But, again, this is not the case: we are talking about performers, content creators, talents, people in the same category. Which means there wouldn't be a disbalance of power.
 
Most porn stars are bisexual and straight and sleep with anyone for money I know that but what I think is strange is the fact that anyone can watch straight porn if they want to but why create a thread where you want to see specifically “gay” men have sex with females? Especially when in reality you should know that gay men are not attracted to women. That is what I think is rooted in homophobia.
It's a fantasy or a fetish, similar to many others. It's not about reality in many cases. I could say that porn where gay men seduce women is homophobic because it reinforces the idea that gay men will never be happy with what they have and only exist to "turn" straight men, but to me it's also just another fetish or fantasy.
 
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You are enjoying a kink watching so called “gay” men have sex with women knowing full well that gay men are not attracted to women and have literally fought for decades to have their sexuality respected. We live in a society where heterosexuality is thrown in our faces every day and gay men still face discrimination and oppression for their sexuality until they conform to heteronormativity. So yes creating a thread where you want to see specifically gay men have sex with females when you could watch straight porn anywhere is rooted in homophobia.
1. People should have the freedom to experiment with their sexual partners, it wouldn't be right to say that gay men aren't allowed to while straight men can.
2. Porn stars are sex workers, this is not their private life.
 
1. People should have the freedom to experiment with their sexual partners, it wouldn't be right to say that gay men aren't allowed to while straight men can.
2. Porn stars are sex workers, this is not their private life.
If you want to experiment with a woman that automatically means you are not gay. Gay men are not interested in women
 
It's a fantasy or a fetish, similar to many others. It's not about reality in many cases. I could say that porn where gay men seduce women is homophobic because it reinforces the idea that gay men will never be happy with what they have and only exist to "turn" straight men, but to me it's also just another fetish or fantasy.
Except there is no porn where gay men seduce women because gay men are gay and not attracted to women.