really amazing how petty some of ya'll can get around these truly monster meats. I learned a lot from this thread as well, coming from a pump novice such as myself. Even as a straight guy, it'd be hard to ignore anything that heavy in a local gym, spa type setting. It really be something if u could pump and increase functionality somehow...maintaining vascularity would be asking too much but it's crazy to imagine. and there would be more guys getting into the sport of it, for sure. Keep on pumpin' boys