I’m so incredibly sad for Sammy yes what he said was wrong but AEW was far to harsh with making an example of him esp when jimmy havoc for example has rape allegations against him but he’s fine...I really hope he comes back he didn’t deserve this
 
I’m so incredibly sad for Sammy yes what he said was wrong but AEW was far to harsh with making an example of him esp when jimmy havoc for example has rape allegations against him but he’s fine...I really hope he comes back he didn’t deserve this
He joked about raping someone... Whether you're a fan or not a suspension is in no way a "harsh" punishment for that.
 
He joked about raping someone... Whether you're a fan or not a suspension is in no way a "harsh" punishment for that.
He joked about it in 2016 AEW wasn’t even a company yet! It’s insane that we can be punished for something stupid we said years ago everyone of us has said stupid things in the past but that doesn’t mean we need to be punished for it right now it’s petty
 
He joked about it in 2016 AEW wasn’t even a company yet! It’s insane that we can be punished for something stupid we said years ago everyone of us has said stupid things in the past but that doesn’t mean we need to be punished for it right now it’s petty


I blame this toxic cancel culture on twitter. The Sasha Banks stans we’re coming at his throat for saying something stupid four years ago. The cancel culture is bullying I feel bad for Sammy the most he issued two apologizes and he seem sincere about it. AEW was indeed harsh they didn’t even exist in 2016 lol.
 
I think it's funny how many people on this website can condemn someone for making a terrible joke whilst begging someone else to share leaked nudes. Some pretty weird morals on this site.

As DX2069 said, no one is squeeky clean. But people need to stop this cancel culture and saying "so he's done now". Sammy's still young and has a great career ahead of him, once he's served his suspension.
 
Remember the last time political correctnes bullies (then it was the american family association) tried to ruin wrestling? Vince parodied the h*ll out of them with 'right to censor'. That's what we need right now. Get a group of underused talent together, call them 'cancel culture' or something and have hem come out and interrupt matches to give sensitivity training, scold audience memebers for manspreading, attack officials because refereeing is mansplaining :) ... the heat they would get would be out of this world. But that would be fun, and we can't have that anymore.

Gues I'm just going to listen to my marilyn manson albums or watch cannibal holocaust and remember a time when people weren't so b*thurt about everything.
 
He joked about it in 2016 AEW wasn’t even a company yet! It’s insane that we can be punished for something stupid we said years ago everyone of us has said stupid things in the past but that doesn’t mean we need to be punished for it right now it’s petty
He was a fully grown adult who joked about RAPING someone!
I'm a fan of his, but he absolutely should be punished for that!

It's nothing to do with 'Cancel Culture'. Just because people are now held accountable for their actions when they didn't used to be doesn't mean everyone is going soft. It means things that have ALWAYS been unacceptable, are now being deemed as such.
 
He was a fully grown adult who joked about RAPING someone!
I'm a fan of his, but he absolutely should be punished for that!

It's nothing to do with 'Cancel Culture'. Just because people are now held accountable for their actions when they didn't used to be doesn't mean everyone is going soft. It means things that have ALWAYS been unacceptable, are now being deemed as such.

At least it work for Trump. He joke about grabbing them by the pussy. Billy Bush was the one ended up being punished.
 
He was a fully grown adult who joked about RAPING someone!
I'm a fan of his, but he absolutely should be punished for that!

It's nothing to do with 'Cancel Culture'. Just because people are now held accountable for their actions when they didn't used to be doesn't mean everyone is going soft. It means things that have ALWAYS been unacceptable, are now being deemed as such.
Yes and he explained why he did that which was exactly what I thought was the reason he did it’s cause he was being the character Sammy Guevara he was going for shock value he had zero intent to rape anyone and it was FOUR YEARS ago when he was only 20 you can’t tell me that you haven’t ever said anything stupid or thought something terrible but that don’t mean you are a bad person it means your a human being

the problem is now a days is ppl find things on the internet and then try to hurt ppl with it and NO ONE cares that the person made a mistake and isn’t even close to being the stupid person they were when the said that comment

your not allowed to make mistakes your not allowed to grow as a person or learn any lessons from mistakes people are required to be perfect or they are trash it’s pathetic it’s petty it’s straight up wrong I feel terrible for Sammy you shouldn’t be in constant fear of loosing everything you worked for your whole life because of something stupid far in your last cause news flash not a single person in the world is perfect

I really hope Sammy will be back on tv as soon as possible if not then I’ll never watch AEW again
 
Yes and he explained why he did that which was exactly what I thought was the reason he did it’s cause he was being the character Sammy Guevara he was going for shock value he had zero intent to rape anyone and it was FOUR YEARS ago when he was only 20 you can’t tell me that you haven’t ever said anything stupid or thought something terrible but that don’t mean you are a bad person it means your a human being

the problem is now a days is ppl find things on the internet and then try to hurt ppl with it and NO ONE cares that the person made a mistake and isn’t even close to being the stupid person they were when the said that comment

your not allowed to make mistakes your not allowed to grow as a person or learn any lessons from mistakes people are required to be perfect or they are trash it’s pathetic it’s petty it’s straight up wrong I feel terrible for Sammy you shouldn’t be in constant fear of loosing everything you worked for your whole life because of something stupid far in your last cause news flash not a single person in the world is perfect

I really hope Sammy will be back on tv as soon as possible if not then I’ll never watch AEW again
You're clearly not getting my point, and like I said - You can be a fan of someone and still think they were out of order.
Him being suspended is FAIR considering the circumstances. If he didn't want this to come back and bite him in the ass then he maybe shouldn't have said it on a universally streamed podcast?

It's nothing to do with him "Being stupid" or "being in character". Rape isn't something that should EVER be joked about.

He's accepted the consequences and fair enough, but maybe all his sympathisers should too.
 
You're clearly not getting my point, and like I said - You can be a fan of someone and still think they were out of order.
Him being suspended is FAIR considering the circumstances. If he didn't want this to come back and bite him in the ass then he maybe shouldn't have said it on a universally streamed podcast?

It's nothing to do with him "Being stupid" or "being in character". Rape isn't something that should EVER be joked about.

He's accepted the consequences and fair enough, but maybe all his sympathisers should too.
Unfollow this thread. Why are you even here if all your going to do is repeat the obvious?

Yes. It was a bad comment. It was years ago, he's apologised and been punished and now, we need to move on. Stop following this thread if you don't like it.

Just throwing this out there, has someone else ever updated your facebook status without your permission? Commonly known as Frape (or Facebook rape). I've logged in before and said "oh dear I've been raped". Sure, it isn't the same as what he said but if everyone lost their careers for these comments, a majority of the working world would be unemployed. Now please, take your holier-than-thou attitude off of a forum literally designed to objectify people. He's been punished with suspension. Case closed. Focus your attention on the actual rapists that have been outed. And NEVER try looking into stand-up comedy, you'll be livid.
 
Unfollow this thread. Why are you even here if all your going to do is repeat the obvious?

Yes. It was a bad comment. It was years ago, he's apologised and been punished and now, we need to move on. Stop following this thread if you don't like it.

Just throwing this out there, has someone else ever updated your facebook status without your permission? Commonly known as Frape (or Facebook rape). I've logged in before and said "oh dear I've been raped". Sure, it isn't the same as what he said but if everyone lost their careers for these comments, a majority of the working world would be unemployed. Now please, take your holier-than-thou attitude off of a forum literally designed to objectify people. He's been punished with suspension. Case closed. Focus your attention on the actual rapists that have been outed. And NEVER try looking into stand-up comedy, you'll be livid.
Exactly correct sir I couldn’t have said it better myself
 
Unfollow this thread. Why are you even here if all your going to do is repeat the obvious?

Yes. It was a bad comment. It was years ago, he's apologised and been punished and now, we need to move on. Stop following this thread if you don't like it.

Just throwing this out there, has someone else ever updated your facebook status without your permission? Commonly known as Frape (or Facebook rape). I've logged in before and said "oh dear I've been raped". Sure, it isn't the same as what he said but if everyone lost their careers for these comments, a majority of the working world would be unemployed. Now please, take your holier-than-thou attitude off of a forum literally designed to objectify people. He's been punished with suspension. Case closed. Focus your attention on the actual rapists that have been outed. And NEVER try looking into stand-up comedy, you'll be livid.
lol I'm hear to look at pictures of people. Just because our opinions aren't the same doesn't mean I have to let people go off on me.

I'm holier than thou when YOU'RE telling ME to get off a thread because I shared an opinion others don't like?

You literally said yourself: "Yes. It was a bad comment. It was years ago, he's apologised and been punished and now, we need to move on.". THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID! It was others who had a problem with me saying that! So redirect your anger elsewhere!
 
Joking about sexual assault is obviously a terrible, trashy thing to do but truth of the matter is, everyone is guilty of something. Everybody has made a bad comment regarding race, class, sexual orientation, etc whether it was a joke or not. The thing with Sammy and other "famous" people is what they say and do is out there and never goes away. Things people said and did on the Internet in 2010 was fine and is now considered problematic. It doesn't make it right, but it's not fair to take something from years ago and using it on someone because it fits what's being discussed now. It's hypocritical in a way because if we had our comments or whatever from years ago suddenly come up and be used against us, would we feel the same way?
 
We all forgive him, what he said was just a little mistake and no one was really offended, people have said a lot worse things. He's a great guy and deserves all the success he gets, hopefully, he can make it to WWE one day.
 
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We all forgive him, what he said was just a little mistake and no one was really offended, people have said a lot worse things. He's a great guy and deserves all the success he gets, hopefully, he can make it to WWE one day.
hes going to be fine and no I hope he never goes to WWE I wouldn't wish that on anyone atleast not while Vince is alive maybe when HHH takes over in 10 years or so maybe but we ill have to wait and see