The Downfall Of Czech Gay Porn Studios

[Finaldestiny986]

oh those times when you gave a cute twink or whatever boy you might into a offer of 100 bucks... and he was yours right away from the street!--- long gone.

The issue is that 98% are str8 guys... and unless its BelAmi who trains them (in the past they even released those training sessions), they will deliver a bad performance. Even if you mix them with a gay guy... its still far far from good. But yes, if you got two gay guys or at least a good actor (str8), than scenes are always great

You act like bisexuality doesn't exist.
Plus just lmfao at 98%.

 

[Cdalo]

oh those times when you gave a cute twink or whatever boy you might into a offer of 100 bucks... and he was yours right away from the street!--- long gone.

The issue is that 98% are str8 guys... and unless its BelAmi who trains them (in the past they even released those training sessions), they will deliver a bad performance. Even if you mix them with a gay guy... its still far far from good. But yes, if you got two gay guys or at least a good actor (str8), than scenes are always great

Yeah I grew up in the wrong time period, how awesome it must have been to be able to gather nice looking guys. Belamionline still release training videos however, they seem to not have any new trainees lol. Belami always was able to keep their guys for at least a few years, as Staxus would hire someone for seemingly a single video shoot and roll the dice that the model would come back. I imagine that they must have expected guys too keep passing through the door to film, like in the good old days

 

[secondsky]

You act like bisexuality doesn't exist.
Plus just lmfao at 98%.

Nope, i act like someone who knows like 70-80% of all models who did go through czech porn.
So.... sorry, there are nearly no gays and mostly they are heterosexual.
Yeah there are a few bisexuals... can count them on 2 hands over the years.
People still think that a hetero guy cant fuck and pretend to have total fun and be totally into it. As soon as the cam stops rolling they look differently into the cam ;-)
Some of them are amazing actors... without joke.
Some BA boys have even kids and wifes at home...

Porn World is not a real world representation of % of sexual orientation.

 

[Finaldestiny986]

Nope, i act like someone who knows like 70-80% of all models who did go through czech porn.
So.... sorry, there are nearly no gays and mostly they are heterosexual.
Yeah there are a few bisexuals... can count them on 2 hands over the years.
People still think that a hetero guy cant fuck and pretend to have total fun and be totally into it. As soon as the cam stops rolling they look differently into the cam ;-)
Some of them are amazing actors... without joke.
Some BA boys have even kids and wifes at home...

Porn World is not a real world representation of % of sexual orientation.

Empty words with no evidence.

 

[StrenghtenMe]

Nope, i act like someone who knows like 70-80% of all models who did go through czech porn.
So.... sorry, there are nearly no gays and mostly they are heterosexual.
Yeah there are a few bisexuals... can count them on 2 hands over the years.
People still think that a hetero guy cant fuck and pretend to have total fun and be totally into it. As soon as the cam stops rolling they look differently into the cam ;-)
Some of them are amazing actors... without joke.
Some BA boys have even kids and wifes at home...

Porn World is not a real world representation of % of sexual orientation.

Nah that's definietly not true- most of those guys are def bi and either lean more into women or only date women and just hookup with guys.
Most bi guys end up with a gf/wife and kids, there is nothing "even" there.
Yes Gay-for-pay exists but it's rare- its far easier for director to work with a bi guy who won't be emotionally attached but will produce convincing scene than literally str8 one.

And there are tons of gay men tho- most of Kristen Bjorn ones were/are gay.

 

[tassojunior]

fwiw- I know a few Bel Ami guys and I don't personally know any who are gay. And if anything the gay-sex-as-work thing drives any bi desires out. Re -doing the same scenes constantly all day in front of people with guys you don't really like while trying to keep a hard on from massive viagra (BelAmi doesn't use Trimix shots), makes you really bored with it. Also, while other studios usually only pay for one scene, Bel Ami traditionally films several in one or two days and stores them for future release, often for years. Bruce Harrelson, their current porn maker, was just at a cabin two days with another young guy and I imagine it was a shoot.

I call them "Buy-sexual".

 

[nekszus]

from menofporn comment

Its hard to keep up w these czech ps’s cuz they constantly change their names and the fuck ANYTHING! Theyre often found on other sites such as mature.nl, grandmams fucking old ladies, bangbangboys fucking grandpas, maturevan fucking old ladies in a van. At this point its a little comical how many names they choose and who they will fuck.

 

[secondsky]

Nah that's definietly not true- most of those guys are def bi and either lean more into women or only date women and just hookup with guys.
Most bi guys end up with a gf/wife and kids, there is nothing "even" there.
Yes Gay-for-pay exists but it's rare- its far easier for director to work with a bi guy who won't be emotionally attached but will produce convincing scene than literally str8 one.

And there are tons of gay men tho- most of Kristen Bjorn ones were/are gay.

Another one who thinks he knows better even if he never meet a single guy who works in european porn.
I say it again: Nearly everybody here in europe who does gay porn is HETEROSEXUAL.
And unlike you I had tons of open face 2 face talk over the years with nearly every single european gay porn model.
You can sure believe what you want, maybe because you want so. But it doesnt reflect the reality.
In the US its sure different. There you have nearly no G4P.

Please take in account that societies in czech republic/slovakia and US are totally different too. Starts with religion, prague maybe got tons of churches, but be sure nearly no one here gives a fuck about religion. And secondary, people try not to care too much about what others do. Mind your own business is the main thinking in most of eastern europe.

Re -doing the same scenes constantly all day in front of people with guys you don't really like while trying to keep a hard on from massive viagra (BelAmi doesn't use Trimix shots), makes you really bored with it.

They use Papaverin injections like everyone else. Only in VERY rare cases viagra/kamagra is used.
Cause 100mg is the daily max, everything above doesnt work. And usually it doesnt give the duration necessary for the BA shoots... and they can be long as fuck. Usually 7+ hours. And yes injections hold that long and longer. And viagra often has one big negative: Red faces.

@nekszus
That comment is true. And at least I try not to use exactly those guys who work with that one producer who does all this MILF, DILF stuff..... usually non existent tests for half the models they use.

 

[tassojunior]

Another one who thinks he knows better even if he never meet a single guy who works in european porn.
I say it again: Nearly everybody here in europe who does gay porn is HETEROSEXUAL.
And unlike you I had tons of open face 2 face talk over the years with nearly every single european gay porn model.
You can sure believe what you want, maybe because you want so. But it doesnt reflect the reality.
In the US its sure different. There you have nearly no G4P.

Please take in account that societies in czech republic/slovakia and US are totally different too. Starts with religion, prague maybe got tons of churches, but be sure nearly no one here gives a fuck about religion. And secondary, people try not to care too much about what others do. Mind your own business is the main thinking in most of eastern europe.


They use Papaverin injections like everyone else. Only in VERY rare cases viagra/kamagra is used.
Cause 100mg is the daily max, everything above doesnt work. And usually it doesnt give the duration necessary for the BA shoots... and they can be long as fuck. Usually 7+ hours. And yes injections hold that long and longer. And viagra often has one big negative: Red faces.

@nekszus
That comment is true. And at least I try not to use exactly those guys who work with that one producer who does all this MILF, DILF stuff..... usually non existent tests for half the models they use.

my friends (about a 10) who visit me in US a lot worked there until about 5 years ago and while I've never asked about the shots, they complain about having to use so much viagra as to get heartburn and indigestion. the shoots were all day or even 2 days but they did several scenes, most of which were saved for later. BA seems to do little new work now.

 

[Brazilianpizza]

Another one who thinks he knows better even if he never meet a single guy who works in european porn.
I say it again: Nearly everybody here in europe who does gay porn is HETEROSEXUAL.
And unlike you I had tons of open face 2 face talk over the years with nearly every single european gay porn model.
You can sure believe what you want, maybe because you want so. But it doesnt reflect the reality.
In the US its sure different. There you have nearly no G4P.

Please take in account that societies in czech republic/slovakia and US are totally different too. Starts with religion, prague maybe got tons of churches, but be sure nearly no one here gives a fuck about religion. And secondary, people try not to care too much about what others do. Mind your own business is the main thinking in most of eastern europe.


They use Papaverin injections like everyone else. Only in VERY rare cases viagra/kamagra is used.
Cause 100mg is the daily max, everything above doesnt work. And usually it doesnt give the duration necessary for the BA shoots... and they can be long as fuck. Usually 7+ hours. And yes injections hold that long and longer. And viagra often has one big negative: Red faces.

@nekszus
That comment is true. And at least I try not to use exactly those guys who work with that one producer who does all this MILF, DILF stuff..... usually non existent tests for half the models they use.

Sounds about right with Europe, you can tell with the behind the scenes shoots of the models. Most of the gay models were the bottoms or just pretty effeminate. During the Golden age, models like Julien Breeze, Dominink Trojan, brad Fit were definitely gay or Bi, while guys like Andrew Shut, Elliot Gass, Max Fonda, and Benjamin Dunn were straight, and All of them gave excellent performances. Their were few anomalies like Jose Manuel and Andrew Shut brother who may just have been sexually fluid.

In the USA, also during the " Golden era" of Czech porn 2000s ect and before, Studios like Randyblue, SeanCody, and of course Corbin Fisher seem to employ lots of sexually fluid guys for the right price. These studios provide guys who could go head to head with the athletic types that dominated Czech porn.

But who cares, where are they now

 

[secondsky]

my friends (about a 10) who visit me in US a lot worked there until about 5 years ago and while I've never asked about the shots, they complain about having to use so much viagra as to get heartburn and indigestion. the shoots were all day or even 2 days but they did several scenes, most of which were saved for later. BA seems to do little new work now.

Well that can have a simple cause.
We dont talk about injections. Also the models not.
So its easier to just say... viagra.
Although i dont want to completely exclude that there might be one idiot at BA who knows shit and thinks that giving 200mg viagra/kamagra would help somehow.
You know, many in porn, including some who produce, are not like the total smartest or able to inform themself.
I am sometimes astonished... when a model comes from some other shoots to me and is afraid about injections. Then i ask why... from completely wrong injection points, to broken needles... to way to high doses.
But basically all porn is using papaverin, from str8 to gay. Only in very special cases, like when the model totally is crazy about the idea ob injection into his dick.. than we do viagra. And while injection sounds horrible, its not as much as you might think. You get used to to it.

yeah BA got major issues with models. as i said before, i know myself at least 5 boys who left and got multiple times contacted in the last moths... to come back. Never happened before.
But dont worry, they still get boys, just not as many as before.

 

[deleted3049951]

I suspect several major factors have caused this decline.

First, the standard of living seems to have improved significantly in the Czech Republic since it joined the EU in 2004. Check out WH content before then (and even a good few years after) and then compare it to today's stuff: all the 20th century Soviet decor from before has transformed into Westernised Ikea-style modern design, and the cheap threadbare briefs the models used to wear now have Calvin Klein and Armani waistbands. It's fucked up, but a thriving economy/job market is probably bad news for porn.

I'd also argue that the proliferation of the internet, while massively increasing potential customers, actually made it much tougher to recruit models. In those early days of WH, he seemed to have hordes of guys turning up for shoots daily, who would in turn invite their friends and brothers and teammates and fellow soldiers etc to audition and make some easy money. The internet wasn't mainstream yet - this was long before Youtube, and even longer still before smartphones - and I'd hazard that most of these guys did it because the shoots were only being published on this obscure geeky internet thing - no one they knew was ever going to see it. Today, obviously, it's a completely different ballgame.

And now the rise of Only Fans and suchlike further compounds the difficulty of recruiting models. When the studio had exclusive use of filming equipment and distribution, it had total power. Now that every budding pornstar has the equipment (smartphone) and means of distribution (wifi/4G) they can cut out the middle man and keep all the revenue for themselves.

Ultimately there's just no longer the same money to be made from professional porn. You can't subsidise costs by throwing some scenes on a DVD and selling thousands of them around the world, as WH used to do, because who buys DVDs any more? And the rampant spread of tube sites and torrent sites means your content is being distributed for free much more easily than in 2004 or whatever, meaning fewer paying subscribers. Which then affects content.

I do actually think the site today is faring pretty well compared to most of its long-running peers - lots of content still, if not nearly as much as before, and still the occasional stunning guy - but I doubt it'll ever return to the quality of its heyday. It's a real shame they removed access to all that classic content. It might be gone for good.

I think you're spot on neonsquares, although I do think models/performers or would-be performers (needing money or just like to enjoy a one off experience, etc), still need to advertise who they are and their link address, so getting a profile/reputation established might still see some of the more ambitious young studs do some professional porn before launching into something like Only Fans. I don't have proof/data, but I bet the more successful OF performers achieved a fan base through a porn studio first, although I know some exceptions (in gay porn - Reno Gold, Milo 'Sweet' Tooth).

 

[deleted3049951]

Even Eastboys seems to have abandoned the East(ern Europe) of its own name recently and started recruiting models from South America instead.

I have subscribed at one time or another to all the major gay studios and a handful of OnlyFans. I think I maxed out at 24 subscriptions at one point (I guess that makes me an addict ) . Now I'm down to one - Eastboys and just recently cancelled Raunchy Bastards. For me, the volumne of new performers has decreased and new content is much less frequent and and what they do has become less imaginative. I don't think we'll see the end of porn, but it will probably shift to home-made porn via Only Fans and where the performer will put some free stuff on PornHob/XVideos, NNXN, etc, in order to attract customers. I notced too Eastboys seems to have shifted to Latin America has posts less stuff, so this will be my last year subscribing to them.

 

[tassojunior]

I think you're spot on neonsquares, although I do think models/performers or would-be performers (needing money or just like to enjoy a one off experience, etc), still need to advertise who they are and their link address, so getting a profile/reputation established might still see some of the more ambitious young studs do some professional porn before launching into something like Only Fans. I don't have proof/data, but I bet the more successful OF performers achieved a fan base through a porn studio first, although I know some exceptions (in gay porn - Reno Gold, Milo 'Sweet' Tooth).

Some porn jacks the demand and price for an escort up so dramatically they should do some free.

But for OF it's a hit because often people won't pay for a short PPV for $25 or $30 when they can get a dozen of the guys 25-minutes porn scenes free online or cheap by sub. Chaterbate is even worse for killing OF income.

 

[neonsquares]

I have subscribed at one time or another to all the major gay studios and a handful of OnlyFans. I think I maxed out at 24 subscriptions at one point (I guess that makes me an addict ) . Now I'm down to one - Eastboys and just recently cancelled Raunchy Bastards. For me, the volumne of new performers has decreased and new content is much less frequent and and what they do has become less imaginative. I don't think we'll see the end of porn, but it will probably shift to home-made porn via Only Fans and where the performer will put some free stuff on PornHob/XVideos, NNXN, etc, in order to attract customers. I notced too Eastboys seems to have shifted to Latin America has posts less stuff, so this will be my last year subscribing to them.

Eastboys was one of the very best sites until maybe a couple of years ago. The producer managed to make even quite ordinary models look completely exquisite - something about the perspective he films them from, I think. Plus, handjob scenes are probably my favourite, and he almost always ended with masturbating them personally - so hot.

I'm not a fan of the switch from everyday, slim, naturally bushy Czech twinks - to shaved, over-muscled Colombian hunks. The filming style and handjob format still looks great but the models don't have the same appeal at all.

This whole decline of the Czech gay porn scene really sucks. I miss it!

 

[nekszus]

Their were few anomalies like Jose Manuel and Andrew Shut brother who may just have been sexually fluid.

Please name his cute little brother

Rasty Shut (aka Mickey Shut, Micky Shut, Daniel Humperk, Paul Saint)

 

[deleted3049951]

Please name his cute little brother

Rasty Shut (aka Mickey Shut, Micky Shut, Daniel Humperk, Paul Saint)

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Is his brother, Tony Conrad/Denis Rizzo? or Alexander Dorch?

 

[nekszus]

Is his brother, Tony Conrad/Denis Rizzo? or Alexander Dorch?

No. Andrew Shut

 

[Brazilianpizza]

Please name his cute little brother

Rasty Shut (aka Mickey Shut, Micky Shut, Daniel Humperk, Paul Saint)

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I didn't type it right, but I meant Andrew Shut and his brother. Both have given great enthusiastic performances, more so when they were topping. Given how hott they were, no doubt the directors would have preferred them to mostly bottom during their stint. Which may have contributed to them retiring after 2 - 3 years.

 

[Brazilianpizza]

Jose Manuel was one of the longest running porn proformers with about 10 years. He was a very good top and bottom, with his early performances being more so cute and charming then sexy. He was a great pro former regardless of what his sexuality was, with the added benefit of looking sexier and more fit as the years went on. Hes even filmed with some american studios

Would love to hear a interview by him actually

Dont know how these awesome boys done it, the idea of injections sounds horrible. I like to think the Belami boys would learn to master the erection, even I got a hard on for people I was not in to. But I guess thats part of the film magic