Unsimulated sex scenes in a movie

Before this become a free for all with everyone posting their point of view as the one who's posted the clip in question and has posted most clips in this thread I think the line between porn and movies is quite blurred.
For example you have porn star Rocco Siffredi who has appeared in several main stream films having unsimulated sex, is this porn then?
What about films that include scenes of porn actors having unsimulated sex added to them, Caligula being an obvious example, is this porn?
Is a short film not classed as one if there's unsimulted sex in it and music videos as well?
I think it's obvious when a production company exists to produce only pornographic material then this is porn but who decides where art ends and porn begins?
If you are on this thread you don't mind seeing explicit sexual acts but if there is a clip you don't think fits that's fine but it's only your opinion which makes it right to you but irrelevant to anyone else.
I'm not trying to dictate to anyone what they can or can't comment but I think comments on threads on any subject should generally be positive, depending on the subject of the thread, otherwise why bother posting?
I only posted because I love his thread and didn't want it to become just another thread with porn instead of it's intended material. And I pointed out Sweat because I wasn't sure if you knew or not that Noel Alejandro exclusively makes artistic porn, as opposed to short films with unsilumlated sex scenes. I think the line becomes whether or not the film/short film/tv show/music video could exist (or you would initially assume it would have) simulated sex scenes, but it surprisingly has unsimulated sex scenes. In the case of Sweat, it exists because the sex scenes are real and for no other purpose.
 
Before this become a free for all with everyone posting their point of view as the one who's posted the clip in question and has posted most clips in this thread I think the line between porn and movies is quite blurred.
For example you have porn star Rocco Siffredi who has appeared in several main stream films having unsimulated sex, is this porn then?
What about films that include scenes of porn actors having unsimulated sex added to them, Caligula being an obvious example, is this porn?
Is a short film not classed as one if there's unsimulted sex in it and music videos as well?
I think it's obvious when a production company exists to produce only pornographic material then this is porn but who decides where art ends and porn begins?
If you are on this thread you don't mind seeing explicit sexual acts but if there is a clip you don't think fits that's fine but it's only your opinion which makes it right to you but irrelevant to anyone else.
I'm not trying to dictate to anyone what they can or can't comment but I think comments on threads on any subject should generally be positive, depending on the subject of the thread, otherwise why bother posting?
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Unsimulated sex scenes in a movie

I do post here beacause of that no other reasons i wouldn't care
 
@Janeway00

There is an older movie, can't remember the name, about two men held in a slavery camp. It looked to be like the film was made in the 70's or early 80's. I believe the sex scene there was also unsimulated. Anyone happen to know what I am referring to?
 
@Janeway00

There is an older movie, can't remember the name, about two men held in a slavery camp. It looked to be like the film was made in the 70's or early 80's. I believe the sex scene there was also unsimulated. Anyone happen to know what I am referring to?
Nothing comes to mind, can you add anymore details, when was it set, what language was it etc.?
 
Also if there are more movies of the other guy
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wheres this from?
 
Nothing comes to mind, can you add anymore details, when was it set, what language was it etc.?
I want to say it might be french. I remember seeing it about a year ago and one of the sex scenes was like in an outhouse, or small barn. One man was black and the other was white.
 
I want to say it might be french. I remember seeing it about a year ago and one of the sex scenes was like in an outhouse, or small barn. One man was black and the other was white.
It sounds like something from the Cadinot gay porn film series but I could be wrong.
 
@Janeway00

There is an older movie, can't remember the name, about two men held in a slavery camp. It looked to be like the film was made in the 70's or early 80's. I believe the sex scene there was also unsimulated. Anyone happen to know what I am referring to?[/QUOTE
are they one white man and one black man??
 
@Janeway00

There is an older movie, can't remember the name, about two men held in a slavery camp. It looked to be like the film was made in the 70's or early 80's. I believe the sex scene there was also unsimulated. Anyone happen to know what I am referring to?
are they one white man and one black man??