yeah, plus given the fact that he is like only 5'7" or so and weights like a $1.20 soak and wet, my 8.5" would look huge on him. Thats one thing girls always miss when judging size, you have to compare the over all body size. I mean I am 6'4" 245lbs with a 8.5", I look proportionally average, its not until the woman puts her hand around it, when she realizes just how big I am. Same goes for smaller guys, take a guy who is 5'7"-5'9" 150-165lbs and throw a thick 8.5" on him and it will look huge.