Absolutelyblake [youtuber]

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Rawr92 said:
Even so, you know what you're getting into to begin with. Setting yourself up to possibly be disappointed. They identify as straight. That's where they're at with their sexuality at the moment. If you want to go ahead and test the waters for your own personal wants, don't be surprised when it doesn't pan out the way you wished. Again, they identified as straight. Everybody in Blake's case knew this. We also know sexuality isn't an exact science and a pin point of 100%. If they end up gay, yay! If they don't, that doesn't make them less of an ally. That just means you're more unaware of reality and how to handle it than you thought you were.

Too many gay guys are out here setting themselves up even after all they know, then using being gay as the reason for feeling like the victim. I never saw any gay guys coming to his defense when parched "fans" push push and push to get what they want even if he might be uncomfortable. Just because he did it eventually, doesn't mean the selfish demands and behavior that led up to it gets a free pass. You call yourselves fans but have no real consideration for the actual person. Acting like you cared is still acting and completely fake at the end of the day.
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First of all the gay ally trend is patronising polite homophobia. Secondly as you say sexuality isn't an exact science and more research is showing that there's no such thing as a 100% monosexual (gay or straight) person.

I do totally agree that a lot of gay guys disrespectfully push the boundaries with straight guys and try to force their desires onto straight guys when they know there's unrequited attraction and then play the victim card. Ironically this behaviour is common amongst straight women in their attitude to men as well.
 
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Idk why people who don't like blake and refuse to watch his videos are here still complaining about him. Don't watch his videos if you don't like him. Sure you can critique him on here but to carry on for pages and pages really means that you just enjoy putting him down which is by definition a "hater".
 
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Exactly. I don't need "allies". I don't play identity politics and find it insipid. I am clever enough to exchange value and advance myself without being entitled to empathy so others can feel righteous in doing so.

I also agree on the second point and have been guilty of the later. Except I don't play victim. But sometimes one needs to wise up and realize they are chasing something that is just never going to happen.

Asher77 said:
First of all the gay ally trend is patronising polite homophobia. Secondly as you say sexuality isn't an exact science and more research is showing that there's no such thing as a 100% monosexual (gay or straight) person.

I do totally agree that a lot of gay guys disrespectfully push the boundaries with straight guys and try to force their desires onto straight guys when they know there's unrequited attraction and then play the victim card. Ironically this behaviour is common amongst straight women in their attitude to men as well.
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sexy1234567 said:
But sometimes one needs to wise up and realize they are chasing something that is just never going to happen.
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What fuels this the most is the 'friendzone' and 'lets be friends' nonsense which basically is about the rejector wanting to keep their admirer in their proximity so they can indulge in narcissistic power games.

A lot of people need to wake up and realise no personal relationship whether it's a friend, lover, sex buddy etc.. is healthy if it's one-sided and not mutually beneficial. Both people need to have the same intent and equally want the same thing from the relationship.
 
Asher77 said:
First of all the gay ally trend is patronising polite homophobia. Secondly as you say sexuality isn't an exact science and more research is showing that there's no such thing as a 100% monosexual (gay or straight) person.

I do totally agree that a lot of gay guys disrespectfully push the boundaries with straight guys and try to force their desires onto straight guys when they know there's unrequited attraction and then play the victim card. Ironically this behaviour is common amongst straight women in their attitude to men as well.
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Well where is that line mister "fair few 'straight' narcissists out there who like to play gay guys along and you see this a lot with 'gay allys'"?

You're questioning their straight sexuality but then bashing gay allies who aren't pleased by gay acts or imagery. Hmmmmm. That sort of behavior sounds like it falls pretty in line with being... straight :eek:... but wait, how can that be? It's as if they don't associate sexual pleasure with a hard specific gender. Outrageous! Their nerve endings must just be in denial...

Is everyone with loose sexuality preferences just so because they're homophobic now? Are we heterophobic since we prefer one side? Do you just make up these definitions as you please? So many questions, so little time.

Make as many excuses as you want but opening up for a know straight or unidentified "straight" guy is a choice that many gay men choose way too often. That's fully on them. Why that is should be the real question, but instead too many in the LGBTQ+ community are quick to play the homophobic card when someone who identifies as other doesn't give them what they want... Asking for or expecting full acceptance while not accepting others is not how this works.
 
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Rawr92 said:
Well where is that line mister "fair few 'straight' narcissists out there who like to play gay guys along and you see this a lot with 'gay allys'"?

You're questioning their straight sexuality but then bashing gay allies who aren't pleased by gay acts or imagery. Hmmmmm. That sort of behavior sounds like it falls pretty in line with being... straight :eek:... but wait, how can that be? It's as if they don't associate sexual pleasure with a hard specific gender. Outrageous! Their nerve endings must just be in denial...

Is everyone with loose sexuality preferences just so because they're homophobic now? Are we heterophobic since we prefer one side? Do you just make up these definitions as you please? So many questions, so little time.

Make as many excuses as you want but opening up for a know straight or unidentified "straight" guy is a choice that many gay men choose way too often. That's fully on them. Why that is should be the real question, but instead too many in the LGBTQ+ community are quick to play the homophobic card when someone who identifies as other doesn't give them what they want... Asking for or expecting full acceptance while not accepting others is not how this works.
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Nobody is born monosexual (straight or gay) we are conditioned by society from birth and ultimately choose to be that way. Until society accepts that then there will very few people who are accepting of anyones sexuality fully.

As for homophobia, there are many straight guys who do play gay guys along with flirting and sexual mixed messages, it's a power play and at times the straight guy is challenging the taboos of his own sexuality.

When it comes to the homophobic card, we're in the era of identity politics and victim cards are being played all the time when people don't get what they want. It's not exclusive to any identity anymore.
 
Asher77 said:
Nobody is born monosexual (straight or gay) we are conditioned by society from birth and ultimately choose to be that way. Until society accepts that then there will very few people who are accepting of anyones sexuality fully.

As for homophobia, there are many straight guys who do play gay guys along with flirting and sexual mixed messages, it's a power play and at times the straight guy is challenging the taboos of his own sexuality.

When it comes to the homophobic card, we're in the era of identity politics and victim cards are being played all the time when people don't get what they want. It's not exclusive to any identity anymore.
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You need to provide solid proof on that because it goes against the general consensus in terms of scientific research. No, your opinion doesn't matter or hold weight unless you happen to be an expert in the field and by expert I mean, sociologist, geneticist, psychologist etc.
 
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sshah01 said:
You need to provide solid proof on that because it goes against the general consensus in terms of scientific research. No, your opinion doesn't matter or hold weight unless you happen to be an expert in the field and by expert I mean, sociologist, geneticist, psychologist etc.
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No, your opinion doesn't hold weight unless you happen to be an expert in the field and by expert I mean, sociologist, geneticist, neurologist, psychologist etc... You provide the facts to support your claim people are born that way and I bet you'll find the research to support that is nebulous and not conclusive.

There's more research out there to prove sexuality isn't fixed and is fluid.
 
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No, your opinion doesn't hold weight unless you happen to be an expert in the field and by expert I mean, sociologist, geneticist, neurologist, psychologist etc... You provide the facts to support your claim people are born that way and I bet you'll find the research to support that is nebulous and not conclusive.

There's more research out there to prove sexuality isn't fixed and is fluid.
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There's a difference between saying sexuality is fluid and sexuality is a choice. These are vastly different ideas.
 
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focus0t said:
There's a difference between saying sexuality is fluid and sexuality is a choice. These are vastly different ideas.
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No sexual identity and sexual orientation is a choice. People chose to identify as straight or gay and live the associated lifestyles.
 
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