Bi-phobia in porn.
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- N68,
QUESTION>
Who would you MOST like to see cross over?
- Does anybody perceive any more straight male models cursing over?
Who would you MOST like to see cross over?
- Does it matter if they TOP or BOTTOM?
- Are they any GAY porn models you want to see the straight porn models just annihilate their hole?
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Yes, in DV /DA scenes, you don't even know you're rubbing dicks with another dude.
What lengths dudes won't go to come off as 100% heterosexual!
Big reality: These scenes are not made for women's enjoyment. Straight porn is made for straight men by staight men.
Only 15% of the straight porn stars are straight then, according the porn starlett above. She doesn't have many dudes to choice from, since she doesn't like "cross-overs" at all (alternating between making gay and straight porn).
What lengths dudes won't go to come off as 100% heterosexual!
Big reality: These scenes are not made for women's enjoyment. Straight porn is made for straight men by staight men.
Only 15% of the straight porn stars are straight then, according the porn starlett above. She doesn't have many dudes to choice from, since she doesn't like "cross-overs" at all (alternating between making gay and straight porn).
Sauerkraut
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Some straight male porn stars should not do the mounted doggy position, since their holes unpucker and GAPE.
hypolimnas
Superior Member
Oh yes they should - they can be an unexpected surprise and delight feature.
Sauerkraut
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Denis Reed did all porn using the same name, so he obviously was not biphobic.
Kristof Cale started as Max Fonda and had a long period when he did gay, bi and straight porn.
Max(imilian) Dior is Scott Reeves, at the same time, as does Charlie Dean / Jace Reed. Michael Fly / Rosta Benecky had a brief overlap.
Kyle Mason / Lucas Knight (versatile), Chris Stokes / Criss Strokes (top) and Danny D / Matt Hughes (almost only top) are now exclusively doing straight porn, but started in gay porn and had longish breaks between the two.
Kristof Cale started as Max Fonda and had a long period when he did gay, bi and straight porn.
Max(imilian) Dior is Scott Reeves, at the same time, as does Charlie Dean / Jace Reed. Michael Fly / Rosta Benecky had a brief overlap.
Kyle Mason / Lucas Knight (versatile), Chris Stokes / Criss Strokes (top) and Danny D / Matt Hughes (almost only top) are now exclusively doing straight porn, but started in gay porn and had longish breaks between the two.
Sauerkraut
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Now retired pornstar Danny Wilde started in gay porn then crossed over to straight. He never denied being bi and shortly before retiring did a bi scene with fellow bi guy Wolf Hudson, who has also done it all under the same name.
Sauerkraut
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I recently saw an anal scene were the guy’s hole looked red from the very start and the more he fucked her the more his butt hole seemed to relax because by the end his gaped almost as much as hers. I was sort of surprised cum didn’t ooz out of it at some point the way his did out of her filled gape.
- N68,
Yeah BUDDY.....
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- N68,
Wow!! great contributions. Considering straight porn isn't my first choice, I'm not that familiar with some of the names you guys throw out. That said, I'm surprised there aren't MORE , that crossover to gay porn.
I'm still confused as to the PAY GAP.
@bigbull29, I can anticipate some of your wise verbiage on what I'm about to say.
I would figure, if gay porn stars male more, why don't more dudes crossover? Some are heavy into the drug scene and usually don't care when they're in that life.
Is the social stigma REALLY that bad in porn that a straight dude can't cross over to make some dough? Will they be sunned that badly by their industry?
- N68,
Case in point= James Deen. Nice looking guy/Huge beautiful cock/ He has a gazillion blogs on him.
This was prior to the rape allegations.
I don't watch that much straight porn to know if my observation are correct, that he seems to be "dried up" in the straight porn industry???
I don't know. I read a lot of studious blackball him/./
So I'm thinking...Again,Nice looking guy/Huge beautiful cock/ Huge following/ Got a little guy-on-guy kiss going on a while back. http://presidentsexy-blog.tumblr.com/post/96236665104
And was still condiered the darling of the porn industry by some standards.
Which surprises and confuses me, because my straight friends say it's ok to cross over as long as you're the TOP OR the dude blows you. NO MOUTH kissing.
Kiss a dude in the mouth, and you can kiss your straight porn career good bye.
So I'm like, James, it's not like anyone would be all that shocked if you Crossed Over.
In some interview back in the day, you said you did stuff with guys when you were down and out.
Aside from just being repulsed by the idea, what do you have to lose??
Sauerkraut
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After that movie scene, James Deen did admit that he had experimented some, out of curiosity and for fun. He is not the only porn star who has gotten so jaded with with sex, from the porn they are doing, that they need to try new and more boundary pushing sex acts, to get that same thrill they used to get; he said that some cross over privately, to get it.
Sauerkraut
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Danny Wilde was the guy that came to th3 house and sat in the chair, though I think they credited his with his given name. (It’s not a secret, since he has written about his porn career.)
- N68,
Really!?!?! That's intriguing.. I was taken aback by some tumblers that proudly advertised they were" PROUD" they don't post James Deen stuff.
And I saw there were petitions to have him not do work with them. I'm thinking, dude, are you crazy??? You've been with dudes before. You're missing your calling/
All I ever hear about is Male performers make more for guy on guy.
IMHO, Billy hart/ Kevin Crows is and can be one of THE BEST CORSSOVERs THERE EVER WAS. Gay or straight, his performances are amazing.
He kisses, he sucks, he fucks the whole 9. That's why I feel the BI gene may be more prominent with him. He's not one of the Gay4payers going thorough the motions.
I can't tell when he's with a dude or a chick who he's more into.
I don't see him in any straight porn either. I would love to know if he's still in porn
He had me ever since he tore Robert Axel a new asshole.
Gay or straight he always seems to bring it..
To me even his straight material is as good as his gay stuff.
Very sensual lover/fucker. nice body. dick.. Wish he still did more stuff.
Most of his gay AND straight blogs have been deactivated..
http://kevincrowsgallery-blog.tumblr.com/archive
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https://www.gayforit.eu/video/269039/Kevin-and-Robert
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- N68,
Yeah, Agreed!!!!! if they crossed over, it would liven things up a bit.
Surprising to me, some guys I know who do this say after a while.. a hole is a hole, it's just a job and isn't that thrilling if it's not sexually stimulating.
I'm just surprised with the open mindedness we have toward sexuality, the porn industry can still be closed minded so guys can feel comfortable doing it.
- N68,
https://www.lpsg.com/threads/charles-dera-realdera-onlyfans.488821/#post-6848634
As I said in the Charles Dera thread, I was going to post a Top 5 crossovers I wanted to see and Dera was one.
It's weird as time progresses, how porn has changed. I don't want to talk tales out of school as not to appear to be gossiping, misleading, "trying to make straight guys who aren't gay, GAY. "
Call it being in the right place at the right time, with a unique set of friends who exposed me to a lifestyle I never thought I'd see.
Like Charles Dera, a VERY YOUNG Johnny Castle, make their way into the bed room of a guy for a price.
Now I undertsand, there's a difference between escorting and porn. Just thinking in terms of the porn industry as paradigms of the market have switched, making it easier for guys to justify their "craft" in crossing over.
And it's not just straight porn actors purse'. You had Mark Dalton back in the day, who wouldn't be filmed doing a dude.
Well..like I've already said, https://www.lpsg.com/threads/mark-dalton.479664/#post-6702698
OOooooh, I've seen a video........ at a private party, of Dalton pulling a guys pants down and going to town on him, putting his dick in this guy's mouth. . etc..
Man, Mark can REALLY throw that dick!!
And I didn't see the video, but I'm told by some of the same set of guys who independently hired Marco Ducati/Damon Danilo, Charles Dera, and Castle ( Castle allegedly no longer does gay stuff), they are complete animals when they exhibit their work.
This one guy who was with Castle in 2005, says, he thinks they broke the bed.
So my taste buds are peaked to see some guy on guy action..
As I said in the Charles Dera thread, I was going to post a Top 5 crossovers I wanted to see and Dera was one.
It's weird as time progresses, how porn has changed. I don't want to talk tales out of school as not to appear to be gossiping, misleading, "trying to make straight guys who aren't gay, GAY. "
Call it being in the right place at the right time, with a unique set of friends who exposed me to a lifestyle I never thought I'd see.
Like Charles Dera, a VERY YOUNG Johnny Castle, make their way into the bed room of a guy for a price.
Now I undertsand, there's a difference between escorting and porn. Just thinking in terms of the porn industry as paradigms of the market have switched, making it easier for guys to justify their "craft" in crossing over.
And it's not just straight porn actors purse'. You had Mark Dalton back in the day, who wouldn't be filmed doing a dude.
Well..like I've already said, https://www.lpsg.com/threads/mark-dalton.479664/#post-6702698
OOooooh, I've seen a video........ at a private party, of Dalton pulling a guys pants down and going to town on him, putting his dick in this guy's mouth. . etc..
Man, Mark can REALLY throw that dick!!
And I didn't see the video, but I'm told by some of the same set of guys who independently hired Marco Ducati/Damon Danilo, Charles Dera, and Castle ( Castle allegedly no longer does gay stuff), they are complete animals when they exhibit their work.
This one guy who was with Castle in 2005, says, he thinks they broke the bed.
So my taste buds are peaked to see some guy on guy action..
- N68,
Hey @men I got @Donnie_Rock69 & @RealDera who’s gonna be the bottom #gayporn #gaypic.twitter.com/ycyEdOCpJ9
Not sure if this is real or a joke discussed in the Charles Dera thread.
But here, in this thread, that focuses not only on bisexual porn stars, but how the industry and fans react to cross overs, it would be interesting to know if this crowd think Charles' fan base would not support him.
Speaking of support, I'm supporting Charles in how a high sticking/fast fucking/ p*ssy hound Marine is so open minded, breaking a lot of traditional roles.
Not to mention, I always assume the big dick porn guys are on here. So if you're reading Charles, you already know what your gay audience wants, and can throw that $$$$$$, I can't wait to see you pound some boy butt like this.
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