Brian Jordan Alvarez

[kemare]

Thread really got ruined.

 

[gimmedatquiche]

Well that's a simple prediction. I think it's kind of messy. His show just got nominated for multiple awards.

Ignorance

 

[Pelleas]

Not blaming the victim, but recognizing there were two people there, with two sides. Why is all the responsibility on Brian? I see him doing this as to make the scene more realistic, but would have simply changed that perspective if he been given a "no".

If I were naked under the sheets with another actor and he touched me somewhere too intimate, I would jump back and say -whoops, too close there, and they would re-shoot the scene and BJA would have gotten the message. Don't put yourself in situations where you cannot speak up for yourself. Knowing the history he had with Brian, he says was coercion, he should have been more aware of Brian then anyone else.

The guy sounds weak in his abilities to communicate and resorts to legal actions, to capitalize on Brian's success at this time. Where was the lawsuit years ago?

I wonder what leads a person to defend rape and sexual assault. Hidden skeletons?

 

[socal123]

rhetorical inflation and the heterosexualization of homosexuality, when bisexuals speak for gay men

 

[NotAGoy]

rhetorical inflation and the heterosexualization of homosexuality, when bisexuals speak for gay men

 

[bigboaster]

rhetorical inflation and the heterosexualization of homosexuality, when bisexuals speak for gay men

Are you lost?

 

[socal123]

to pretend a man claiming years later a blowjob was really unwanted and he was powerless to stop this trauma is the same thing as a woman literally incapable of stopping a far stronger man from penetrating & impregnating her is misogyny. Happy Christmas!

 

[BadMan125]

rhetorical inflation and the heterosexualization of homosexuality, when bisexuals speak for gay men

Did your brain get eaten by mice or something?

 

[socal123]

ad hominem is always the tell of losing a debate

Did your brain get eaten by mice or something

 

[Kanashi]

rhetorical inflation and the heterosexualization of homosexuality, when bisexuals speak for gay men

what does rhetorical inflation mean?

 

[NYC1995]

to pretend a man claiming years later a blowjob was really unwanted and he was powerless to stop this trauma is the same thing as a woman literally incapable of stopping a far stronger man from penetrating & impregnating her is misogyny. Happy Christmas!

Again, I ask you, if a CEO fondles his secretary's breasts on a daily basis and she does not say "stop" out of fear of retribution, is he in the wrong?

 

[socal123]

Again, I ask you, if a CEO fondles his secretary's breasts on a daily basis and she does not say "stop" out of fear of retribution, is he in the wrong?

you have provided an excellent example of a fact pattern wholly dissimilar to a man using his testosterone-fueld biology to overpower a woman’s explicit demand for him to stop. and i’d have the same pinging on my bullshit meter if she complained a half decade after these alleged events as the obviously mendacious man who feigining trauma at the unwanted blowjob he was so powerless to stop due to the massive power imbalance between him and the barely above poverty actor BJA.

 

[NYC1995]

you have provided an excellent example of a fact pattern wholly dissimilar to a man using his testosterone-fueld biology to overpower a woman’s explicit demand for him to stop. and i’d have the same pinging on my bullshit meter if she complained a half decade after these alleged events as the obviously mendacious man who feigining trauma at the unwanted blowjob he was so powerless to stop due to the massive power imbalance between him and the barely above poverty actor BJA.

Do you not understand he didn't "complain [a] half decade later" he was texting minutes after sharing his feelings? These texts are verified and in the Vulture article.

He wanted to be in the web series because it had funding and Brian's star was already rising, so it was a possible opportunity for success. If you can't understand that he felt paralyzed in the moment but immediately felt like he was violated, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[socal123]

Do you not understand he didn't "complain [a] half decade later" he was texting minutes after sharing his feelings? These texts are verified and in the Vulture article.

He wanted to be in the web series because it had funding and Brian's star was already rising, so it was a possible opportunity for success. If you can't understand that he felt paralyzed in the moment but immediately felt like he was violated, I don't know what to tell you.

feeling violated sounds alot like regret post hoc for going along to advance his career. it sounds nothing like rape.

 

[NotAGoy]

good fucking god

 

[NYC1995]

feeling violated sounds alot like regret post hoc for going along to advance his career. it sounds nothing like rape.

He was crying on the phone 10 minutes later saying that Brian assaulted him. This was his boss assaulting him on a film set? He was frozen silently then afterwards immediately called his girlfriend and broke down over what just happened.

 

[colorfulkent]

Again, I ask you, if a CEO fondles his secretary's breasts on a daily basis and she does not say "stop" out of fear of retribution, is he in the wrong?

Are they under sheets together, have they had sex before and are they both men?

 

[P4perboi]

You know, men can even be raped by women?
This whole conversation is so incredibly dumb and a smack in the face for every man who ever got assaulted.

Jon identifies as straight. If I imagine a female boss taking out my dick and starting to suck me, I can totally see me getting frozen too.

I don't know if you are making up excuses not to feel bad for liking a rapist or if you really think abusing men is okay because they are strong enough to fight back, but it's sick both ways.

 

[NYC1995]

Are they under sheets together, have they had sex before and are they both men?

You really don’t understand what consent means. Best of luck to you.

 

[colorfulkent]

You really don’t understand what consent means. Best of luck to you.

consent has been redefined and I think it can be interpreted differently. When the person is hot and liked it, suddenly consent doesn't matter. Can consent be non-verbal? If there is a prior relationship is it understood, i.e. marriage.