Club 1821 - Brad Posey

Hey guys, I always wanted to ask this, how genuine are the videos? What is your opinion? Because we see some guys in other productions, but in some videos, I really see that it is not a "porn", it is really like a genuine material.
 
Hey guys, I always wanted to ask this, how genuine are the videos? What is your opinion? Because we see some guys in other productions, but in some videos, I really see that it is not a "porn", it is really like a genuine material.
genuine in what sense? Like are they just naturally fooling around with a much older dude? I'd say almost zero. Posey has more chemistry with the models than a lot of photogs because I got the sense he was just a genuinely nice dude, but they are there to get paid. it was very interesting to me that "Scott" who later became "Ryan Andrews" asked Posey if he could kiss him and later asked on camera if Posey fuck him. He went on to do numerous scenes for Mike Hancock where he topped/bottomed and had what looked like a genuinely affectionate relationship with "James Oak"/("Michael Dallas") even though both of them identify as straight.
 
genuine in what sense? Like are they just naturally fooling around with a much older dude? I'd say almost zero. Posey has more chemistry with the models than a lot of photogs because I got the sense he was just a genuinely nice dude, but they are there to get paid. it was very interesting to me that "Scott" who later became "Ryan Andrews" asked Posey if he could kiss him and later asked on camera if Posey fuck him. He went on to do numerous scenes for Mike Hancock where he topped/bottomed and had what looked like a genuinely affectionate relationship with "James Oak"/("Michael Dallas") even though both of them identify as straight.
I mean like in pumpingmuscle videos, some of them really have no idea about what is going on right? But that is not the case in Brad Posey's videos as far as I understand. They are there for porn, being porn models, some of them identify as straight but willing to do things for money, some of them are queer etc, some of them are queer in reality, but they say that they are straight for the video. They are not there for being a "normal" photomodel, they are there for porn?
 
I mean like in pumpingmuscle videos, some of them really have no idea about what is going on right? But that is not the case in Brad Posey's videos as far as I understand. They are there for porn, being porn models, some of them identify as straight but willing to do things for money, some of them are queer etc, some of them are queer in reality, but they say that they are straight for the video. They are not there for being a "normal" photomodel, they are there for porn?
I think you are right: they all know they are there to shoot nude porn videos. But there are a few videos where he starts masturbating one of the straight boys and you see them look up at the camera like "is he filming this? Will people see this guy jacking me off?" and they seem uncomfortable. Sometimes he plays it off like he's just fluffing them to get them hard for photos, but if they are into it or don't stop him, he just keeps doing it, obviously in some videos until the guy ejaculates. Of course, they all sign off to let their images be used, but I'm not totally certain some of them expected to be touched and masturbated as part of the gig.
 
I think you are right: they all know they are there to shoot nude porn videos. But there are a few videos where he starts masturbating one of the straight boys and you see them look up at the camera like "is he filming this? Will people see this guy jacking me off?" and they seem uncomfortable. Sometimes he plays it off like he's just fluffing them to get them hard for photos, but if they are into it or don't stop him, he just keeps doing it, obviously in some videos until the guy ejaculates. Of course, they all sign off to let their images be used, but I'm not totally certain some of them expected to be touched and masturbated as part of the gig.
It is obvious from the talks, they know this is porn, but like, are there really girls out there to film porn with these guys? Have we seen any str8 porn by Brad Posey? Is he luring them with promising shooting straight porn with girls if the audition goes well? I don't know. But it is so hot.
 
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It is obvious from the talks, they know this is porn, but like, are there really girls out there to film porn with these guys? Have we seen any str8 porn by Brad Posey? Is he luring them with promising shooting straight porn with girls if the audition goes well? I don't know. But it is so hot.
I think some of these are bi guys who are getting their first experience of letting another man be near them naked in a sexual manner, touching them, and watching them cum (or helping them cum). And you're right. It's definitely hot.
 
I mean like in pumpingmuscle videos, some of them really have no idea about what is going on right? But that is not the case in Brad Posey's videos as far as I understand. They are there for porn, being porn models, some of them identify as straight but willing to do things for money, some of them are queer etc, some of them are queer in reality, but they say that they are straight for the video. They are not there for being a "normal" photomodel, they are there for porn?
Yes, I agree that Posey was more upfront about what they were signing up for. He talks with them in many videos about being paired up for a scene with another guy, advice about whether to shave their privates, etc. And they seem totally unsurprised when he starts playing with their equipment, so I'm pretty sure it had been discussed.

The jury is still out for me on how much if any of Pumping Muscle footage is staged. On one hand these guys are not likely to be good enough actors to fake the uncertainty, etc., that you hear in some of the conversations. But on the other hand, they could pull Peter's head off with their bare hands. It's an interesting question and I don't know if we'll ever know the answer, especially since he seems to have given up the trade (web address is now going to a domain aggregator site).
 
Yes, I agree that Posey was more upfront about what they were signing up for. He talks with them in many videos about being paired up for a scene with another guy, advice about whether to shave their privates, etc. And they seem totally unsurprised when he starts playing with their equipment, so I'm pretty sure it had been discussed.

The jury is still out for me on how much if any of Pumping Muscle footage is staged. On one hand these guys are not likely to be good enough actors to fake the uncertainty, etc., that you hear in some of the conversations. But on the other hand, they could pull Peter's head off with their bare hands. It's an interesting question and I don't know if we'll ever know the answer, especially since he seems to have given up the trade (web address is now going to a domain aggregator site).
Some of the pm videos might be staged, but like you mentioned, these guys are not pros to fake uncertainty etc. it looks real in most cases. I don't think that all of them were staged for sure.

For Brad Posey's videos, like you said, they were signed up for this for sure, Brad is more direct than Peter. But again, I think Brad is manipulating them in a way.

All being said, these 2 stuidos are amazing, there is no content like these anymore. (Also swell80, which I believe 99% of the videos of him were unstaged, rip...)
 
Some of the pm videos might be staged, but like you mentioned, these guys are not pros to fake uncertainty etc. it looks real in most cases. I don't think that all of them were staged for sure.

For Brad Posey's videos, like you said, they were signed up for this for sure, Brad is more direct than Peter. But again, I think Brad is manipulating them in a way.

All being said, these 2 stuidos are amazing, there is no content like these anymore. (Also swell80, which I believe 99% of the videos of him were unstaged, rip...)
Well, he featured very young guys and as you or someone said above they have a sense of invincibility that comes from not fully formed cognition. Guys of this age are known for taking stupid chances (Jackass anyone?) and not thinking things through.

Peter's sense of editing baffled me, though. If he were knowingly trying to deceive these guys, I feel like he'd edit out the parts that made him look creepy especially if they add nothing to the "plot". But given he left in telling at least two guys they needed to go wipe their ass I sense he also had little sense of how he or the videos would be perceived.
 
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Well, he featured very young guys and as you or someone said above they have a sense of invincibility that comes from not fully formed cognition. Guys of this age are known for taking stupid chances (Jackass anyone?) and not thinking things through.

Peter's sense of editing baffled me, though. If he were knowingly trying to deceive these guys, I feel like he'd edit out the parts that made him look creepy especially if they add nothing to the "plot". But given he left in telling at least two guys they needed to go wipe their ass I sense he also had little sense of how he or the videos would be perceived.
Definitely, like yo said, we'll never know.
 
Does he have more scenes ? or even other projects? I love how you can see his butt clenching at the mirror
Hey guys, you're forgetting that these videos are from the 1990's and early 2000's. Before OF.
Brad approached hot young guys and advertised for them to do nude modelling. They knew what they were doing, but they had the time, needed the money, had few inhibitions, and Brad was nice to them all. A good mixture.
 
I think you are right: they all know they are there to shoot nude porn videos. But there are a few videos where he starts masturbating one of the straight boys and you see them look up at the camera like "is he filming this? Will people see this guy jacking me off?" and they seem uncomfortable. Sometimes he plays it off like he's just fluffing them to get them hard for photos, but if they are into it or don't stop him, he just keeps doing it, obviously in some videos until the guy ejaculates. Of course, they all sign off to let their images be used, but I'm not totally certain some of them expected to be touched and masturbated as part of the gig.
I'm reminded of him fluffing (or whatever) Mark Ford for about 50 seconds in Hot Sessions 3 (see comment #38). That shoot is a favorite of mine.
 
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Have a convo with Brad Posey a couple months ago. This is info for anyone tryna complete their collection like I am:

*Hot Sessions 9 & 10 were only ever released on VHS. I think that's why they are impossible to find.
* Brad believes that 'Sweet Seductions' had a tech issue so was never released. If it was released, it was for such a short time that it's never turned up & would still have some kind of tech issue with it.

Been working with one or two people (buying some DVDs to rip cause the only quality of some of these I can find online sucks). Once I get a complete collection (this year) I'll upload or have someone upload to gaytor . rent site.

These are what I've documented so far. I haven't worked on Screen Test or YHS series yet.

Code:
--HOT SESSIONS--

MISSING:
Hot Sessions 09
Hot Sessions 10

Quality of Hot Sessions videos:

Hot Sessions 01 (1991) - MP4 - 640 x 480
Hot Sessions 02 (1994) - MP4 - 720 x 480
Hot Sessions 03 (1996) - MP4 - 704 x 474
Hot Sessions 04 (1995) - MP4 - 720 x 480
Hot Sessions 05 (1995) - MKV - 704 x 480
Hot Sessions 06 (1995) - MP4 - 720 x 480
Hot Sessions 07 (1997) - MKV - 704 x 480
Hot Sessions 08 (1999) - MP4 - 652 x 480
Hot Sessions 11 (2000) - MP4 - 720 x 540
Hot Sessions 12 (2001) - MP4 - 720 x 540
Hot Sessions 13 (2001) - AVI - 720 x 480
Hot Sessions 14 (2001) - MP4 - 720 x 480
Hot Sessions 15 (2001) - MP4 - 720 x 480
Hot Sessions 16 (2001) - MP4 - 1280 x 720
Hot Sessions 17 (2006) - MP4 - 720 x 480

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

--VARIETY--
-MISSING-
JACK OFF BUDDIES
SUCK IT!

Action Pack 1 (2005) - MP4 - 1920 x 1080
Action Pack 2 (2006) - MP4 - 1920 x 1080
After School Special (1998) - AVI - 640 x 464
Brad Posey Compilation (USER MADE) - MP4 - 1280 x 720
Damon's Hot Summer (2006) - AVI - 656 x 480
Innocent Attraction (2000) - MP4 - 720 x 480
Legends of Surf House (1990) - AVI - 720 x 480
Profile - Ryan Weber - MP4 - 1024 x 576
Skipping School (1999) - AVI - 640 x 480
Suckers Fuckers & Strokers 1 (2008) - MKV - 856 x 480
Suckers Fuckers & Strokers 2 (2008) - AVI - 544 x 416
Wow you managed to collect all of them! Currently I'm trying to download HS 5 from some tor. rent site but the # of connected peers are very small, so its very slow (ETA 20. Is there any chance you would share the collection here??

cheers and have a great day to you
 
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