Thanks but what does he look like , can you describe him for us in terms of looks ?
He's a white guy standing at 5'8", has a black beard and mustache with a few grays embedded in his beard. He's skinny with a muscular upper frame. He's got a belly forming which I think is cute. He thinks he's getting fat, he's not. He's balding but keeps his hair trim, though he regularly wears beanies. He wears black glasses and has a strong nose, which I like. He's got a soft sounding voice, like me. He's 32, will be 33 this year and I just turned 41.
Voyager also had my favorite ship design ever in it with the USS Prometheus. I wish they would do a whole series with that class.Yes! By the late, great Jerry Goldsmith (1929-2004). Considered one of the "giants" of film composers of all-time. His contributions to "Trek" were several of the movie scores and that great "Voyager" theme commission.
@BigDixRule - hope you can one day give the guy you've been telling us about a big 'ole kiss while that theme serenades you two in the background.
You sound like a very kind and thoughtfully deep soul. Your remark that you grow close to people resonates with me, especially the being let down.
What I’ve come to learn, I guess, is that feeling or expressing intimacy is one of the highest forms of communication and love for one another, but then I’ve been hurt when the other does not feel the same in this sense, though they feel a deep closeness in every other way. A platonic friend.
I have learned more about myself as it relates to these emotions and feelings, to be less hurt by them, to understand why I feel the way I do, and that perhaps one day I might be fortunate enough to find someone who would feel the same way about me and have these values. That said, life is not a failure if I never experienced it, if only because I personally was able to even understand and uphold this ‘pure love and happiness,’ unencumbered by society’s labels and judgements.
You sound like you are enjoying the present, being in the moment and appreciating your friend for what he is. And that is great!
Yes! Very good post, @Zhugezen , and to @BigDixRule, I'm also impressed at your ability to express your thoughts here and how deeply you seem to think, and feel, about things, which is one reason I "watched" this thread - although, later, the "Voyager" talk didn't hurt either! Bio-neural gel packs FTW! (deep cut, deep cut; supporting graphic below
).I think too it often can be harder for two guys to connect, compatible sexualities or otherwise. To figure out how to talk about their feelings or ambitions, or simply neutral topics.
Not necessarily fully directly related to @BigDixRule's situation, but I've seen straight men bemoan the lack of good male friends in their post-college years (once their core friend group often scatters geographically or life-responsibility wise) and as they get into their 30s and even 40s - i.e. "where do you meet guys for simple friendship?" Those guys may have a girlfriend, may have a wife, but no idea where to meet other guys for platonic male friendships and it can be hard for a lot of guys to say "Hey, I want to hang out with you" or "I think I want some guy 'hang' time." I guess sometimes it's "join a soccer team" or "join a hockey team" (amateur, hobby teams) or other events (like a Superbowl watch party at the neighborhood bar & grill maybe), but I think females in our society are perhaps more naturally apt to make friendships more quickly with other women and that society sees and encourages that. With men, straight, gay, bi, or otherwise, it can be more difficult.
All that to say, @BigDixRule, I think you're doing well and just take it a day at a time and never diminish the bond and hang time you've already have and will continue to have!
I LOVE the Bio Neural gel packs!Yes! Very good post, @Zhugezen , and to @BigDixRule, I'm also impressed at your ability to express your thoughts here and how deeply you seem to think, and feel, about things, which is one reason I "watched" this thread - although, later, the "Voyager" talk didn't hurt either! Bio-neural gel packs FTW! (deep cut, deep cut; supporting graphic below
I think too it often can be harder for two guys to connect, compatible sexualities or otherwise. To figure out how to talk about their feelings or ambitions, or simply neutral topics.
Not necessarily fully directly related to @BigDixRule's situation, but I've seen straight men bemoan the lack of good male friends in their post-college years (once their core friend group often scatters geographically or life-responsibility wise) and as they get into their 30s and even 40s - i.e. "where do you meet guys for simple friendship?" Those guys may have a girlfriend, may have a wife, but no idea where to meet other guys for platonic male friendships and it can be hard for a lot of guys to say "Hey, I want to hang out with you" or "I think I want some guy 'hang' time." I guess sometimes it's "join a soccer team" or "join a hockey team" (amateur, hobby teams) or other events (like a Superbowl watch party at the neighborhood bar & grill maybe), but I think females in our society are perhaps more naturally apt to make friendships more quickly with other women and that society sees and encourages that. With men, straight, gay, bi, or otherwise, it can be more difficult.
All that to say, @BigDixRule, I think you're doing well and just take it a day at a time and never diminish the bond and hang time you've already have and will continue to have!
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the EMH was one of my favorite parts. The idea a computer routine can be pissy is just hilarious
When they first introduced the ship on-show and were touting its features, I thought those packs were such a badass concept, to speed up processing - organic and electronic together. Roughly in line perhaps with the TNG "Nanites", the next step. They factor in at some cool times episode-wise, like one of my favorite fourth season episodes (and probably one of my favorite of all time), "One", about Seven needing to be the sole awake occupant getting them through a nebula - where the packs degrade and responsible for false readings causing alarms to trigger (warp core breach, etc. - that's the pic below). I'm a big fan of in-universe nomenclature, design (sets, display screens - i.e. LCARS), etc. - the fact that the show's creators developed these types of things for Voyager sure help "sell" the ship as a character too. When those gel packs have a problem, you practically "feel" the ship is wounded and want it to get repaired. Great touch of detail to make the viewer care.
None of this helps with "your guy" right now, and to get us back on-topic, perhaps watch more Voyager episodes together if he's into it, and being such a fan of the show you could point out some details and nuance to him.
Or do a marathon of your top 10 favorite episodes - prep them in advance and treat it like a little date. I really do think nothing sexier than somebody knowledgeable on a topic and willing to teach/share the knowledge!
Thank you for your words. I hear this from people a lot. It's just how I feel inside my heart. Sometimes there's a struggle inside my heart and mind with whether or not what I am feeling is genuine or simply hormones as sometimes it's hard to tell. I think if it were just hormones I would see him as just being hot, but this man brings out a side of me that I really am excited to share. Tell others how he makes me feel. And we've only known each other for a short time. Well, we've known each other for what feels like a year, but we just started seeing each other in person and not in emails since September.
I'd be thankful to have him in my life anytime for any reason. He sends memes as a form of expression and as I was taking a nap on Valentine's late afternoon, I thought to myself, if he sends you a Valentine, even in the form of a meme, I will personally declare my passion for him(to myself). He did exactly that. While I don't feel it was a declaration of his feelings for me, it did make me feel special. Mm, that man. I can't wait to see him this Sunday.
Our ship name is Juke. Jonny & Luke. Or Lonny. I have an inner teenage girl who lives inside my head so excuse my silliness. See, this is what I mean. I'm just like crazy for him and I don't want to be because all this passion I feel could fizzle into nothing real quick with one sentence from him. That is why for the time being, I am just happy spending time with him.
As for Voyager, in canon as seen in the different seasons, there were only two commissioned Intrepid-class starships. The USS Voyager and the USS Bellerophon. I was actually a bit miffed that a ship as advanced and bomb as hell as Voyager would only be seen once and not even partake in a battle with a fleet of Federation starships like they did in Prodigy and Picard. Now I just see it as Voyager being unique as hell. It's about her and her only. She deserves her status as a miracle ship now in her new life as a museum ship orbiting Space Dock, Athan Prime. I teared up when Seven gave her speech about how Voyager made her name further than any of those other relics ever did. Shade to ALL of them. That's who the USS Voyager is. She has the legacy she has because she is special. I will never stop loving that ship and her crew. As an artist, I am about to remake her with a whole bunch of new artist tech. If you want to follow my art socials, send me a DM.
You sound like the coolest dude. If in your friend's personal journey of discovery he does find he's into guys, he's a lucky one.
Once you've been around long enough, you learn the difference between a just a crush and feelings that are deeper. I've found this discussion fascinating because in many ways, it's my life too. My best friend is bi, though is really only physically attracted to women when it comes to looks, but is really only attracted to guys mentally and emotionally. There is virtually no chance he and I ever have anything beyond just a friendship, but you know what, I'm 1000% fine with that. It's the most special friendship I've had in my life and even just it being what it is right now is far more personally fulfilling than any physical relationship I've ever had. He knows exactly how I feel about him and I know how he feels about me. Wherever life may lead that, I'm okay with. There's just no one I've ever gotten as much joy out of spending time with. We playfully flirt a lot but I don't really push for something further but should some day he decides he wanted to go further with it, I'd take zero convincing to do so.
Also while it's never been discussed in canon, there would have to be a third Intrepid-class, the USS Intrepid, as the class namesake is traditionally the first vessel of the design.
Once you've been around long enough, you learn the difference between a just a crush and feelings that are deeper. I've found this discussion fascinating because in many ways, it's my life too. My best friend is bi, though is really only physically attracted to women when it comes to looks, but is really only attracted to guys mentally and emotionally. There is virtually no chance he and I ever have anything beyond just a friendship, but you know what, I'm 1000% fine with that. It's the most special friendship I've had in my life and even just it being what it is right now is far more personally fulfilling than any physical relationship I've ever had. He knows exactly how I feel about him and I know how he feels about me. Wherever life may lead that, I'm okay with. There's just no one I've ever gotten as much joy out of spending time with. We playfully flirt a lot but I don't really push for something further but should some day he decides he wanted to go further with it, I'd take zero convincing to do so.
Also while it's never been discussed in canon, there would have to be a third Intrepid-class, the USS Intrepid, as the class namesake is traditionally the first vessel of the design.
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This is such an intriguing situation.
I am curious, since you are spending all this time together in the privacy of your home, are you both fully clothed?
In the past, hanging out with guys when I wasn’t yet “out”, freeballing, getting caught coming out of the shower when someone arrived, or changing clothes in front of each other was a subtle way of flirting and/or showing trust and a level of comfortability.
I am curious, since you are spending all this time together in the privacy of your home, are you both fully clothed?
In the past, hanging out with guys when I wasn’t yet “out”, freeballing, getting caught coming out of the shower when someone arrived, or changing clothes in front of each other was a subtle way of flirting and/or showing trust and a level of comfortability.
Yes, we both are clothed. Sometimes he comes over in his pajama bottoms cuz he's a sleepy head. And despite being in my house clothes I always freeball cuz I don't like underwear.
So tonight we hung out again and watched some TV. We had a conversation and in the midst of that conversation we're showing each other memes which is something he likes to do as a form of communication.
One meme he showed me was of a naked black guy with his penis exposed and his face censored. The meme was to show that the wrong part of it was censored. I was just shocked he had nude males on his phone.
So in turn I sent him something explicit as well. A gif of a guy taking down his pants and tornado slapping a woman with his big cock. He laughed. A cock pic for a cock pic since he initiated it.
After he left, he sent me a meme and I sent him one back of Patamon yawning and curling up into a ball next to TK, me saying good night to him. A few minutes later I checked my phone after vacuuming and he sent me a meme of the character from the Lord of the Rings who talks about his precious? That one. The meme was of him saying "good night my precious".
I'm not gonna assume shiet! That's how I get in trouble. But he sends me hella suggestive stuff that screams he is into me and throwing signs left and right. But knowing my luck, all the suggestive stuff is innocent and he meant nothing by it. What do y'all think???
I told him he smelled nice tonight. He said all he does is shower and I told him he should keep doing that because even through my bad sinuses I can smell his scent.
One meme he showed me was of a naked black guy with his penis exposed and his face censored. The meme was to show that the wrong part of it was censored. I was just shocked he had nude males on his phone.
So in turn I sent him something explicit as well. A gif of a guy taking down his pants and tornado slapping a woman with his big cock. He laughed. A cock pic for a cock pic since he initiated it.
After he left, he sent me a meme and I sent him one back of Patamon yawning and curling up into a ball next to TK, me saying good night to him. A few minutes later I checked my phone after vacuuming and he sent me a meme of the character from the Lord of the Rings who talks about his precious? That one. The meme was of him saying "good night my precious".
I'm not gonna assume shiet! That's how I get in trouble. But he sends me hella suggestive stuff that screams he is into me and throwing signs left and right. But knowing my luck, all the suggestive stuff is innocent and he meant nothing by it. What do y'all think???
I told him he smelled nice tonight. He said all he does is shower and I told him he should keep doing that because even through my bad sinuses I can smell his scent.
I think there's something there though it sounds like he may still be on the personal discovery journey. I think you have a good approach with it. You are definitely giving signs but not pushing anything on to him.So tonight we hung out again and watched some TV. We had a conversation and in the midst of that conversation we're showing each other memes which is something he likes to do as a form of communication.
One meme he showed me was of a naked black guy with his penis exposed and his face censored. The meme was to show that the wrong part of it was censored. I was just shocked he had nude males on his phone.
So in turn I sent him something explicit as well. A gif of a guy taking down his pants and tornado slapping a woman with his big cock. He laughed. A cock pic for a cock pic since he initiated it.
After he left, he sent me a meme and I sent him one back of Patamon yawning and curling up into a ball next to TK, me saying good night to him. A few minutes later I checked my phone after vacuuming and he sent me a meme of the character from the Lord of the Rings who talks about his precious? That one. The meme was of him saying "good night my precious".
I'm not gonna assume shiet! That's how I get in trouble. But he sends me hella suggestive stuff that screams he is into me and throwing signs left and right. But knowing my luck, all the suggestive stuff is innocent and he meant nothing by it. What do y'all think???
I told him he smelled nice tonight. He said all he does is shower and I told him he should keep doing that because even through my bad sinuses I can smell his scent.
My stories are always lavish and interesting, but to show that I am telling the truth and not sensationalizing what's happening, I will share this part of our text convo which matches what I said in my last post. I really enjoy his company. I haven't felt this way about someone since the last guy I was in a situationship with who let me down. But taking feelings out of it, I truly enjoy his company and he enjoys mine as well. I think that is what makes us such close friends. As long as he initiates, I will happily exchange explicit photos with him. I don't have a problem with that and it makes me feel closer to him. One of the photos he sent is a cat mouthing a bathtub faucet. I don't know if that was meant to be funny or suggestive cuz it does look like the cat is sucking a fatty.
This man can just wake up and not brush or comb his beard and decide to come over and I would still lust over him. He's beautiful. He's the most attractive friend I've had since that last guy whose name we don't talk about in this thread. I am comfortable sharing anything with him so long as he feels the same with me. I would imagine he has to be real comfortable with me to share nudes of another man, even if it was some sort of meme. I'm very glad I shared my sexuality with him. I want to be open and honest in my truth and with a good friend. So next time he should send me a nude photo of someone, I won't act like I'm shocked to see it. I'll actually zoom in on it to see what the guy in the pic is working with. That meme he showed me was on his phone so it's not in this text convo. But the gif I sent him is as you'll see in the first photo. I also blocked out his face and name for anonymity.
This man can just wake up and not brush or comb his beard and decide to come over and I would still lust over him. He's beautiful. He's the most attractive friend I've had since that last guy whose name we don't talk about in this thread. I am comfortable sharing anything with him so long as he feels the same with me. I would imagine he has to be real comfortable with me to share nudes of another man, even if it was some sort of meme. I'm very glad I shared my sexuality with him. I want to be open and honest in my truth and with a good friend. So next time he should send me a nude photo of someone, I won't act like I'm shocked to see it. I'll actually zoom in on it to see what the guy in the pic is working with. That meme he showed me was on his phone so it's not in this text convo. But the gif I sent him is as you'll see in the first photo. I also blocked out his face and name for anonymity.
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The Prometheus is such an ingenious design. The top section of the ship actually has two nacelles so that each section of the ship has 2 nacelles each to achieve warp. The second nacelle is on the bottom of the ship which I recently learned. You can't see it unless they show the bottom of the top section at warp. I think they should make more ships like this. I'm glad I have my Eaglemoss model of it. I think if they really gave it some thought, they could put in a shuttlebay in all 3 sections of the ship instead of just the top section. This way each section has warp, impulse, and shuttle capabilities. Imagine being independent at warp or impulse and they wouldn't need to be near each other for at least a lightyear so that they all can reunite and come back with any supplies or data that was collected. Long range sensors can keep track of where the other sections of the ship are.
I know back in the day, they only reason that ship never got used except in the dedicated ep (and a brief reappearance of an unnamed one of the class, probably the Prometheus, waiting at the Transwarp conduit during Voyager's return to the Alpha Quadrant,) was that the computer animation sequences were super expensive, especially for those days. It would eclipse a show budget quickly in a single sequence. Design was so cool though. You can tell they modified it from an Intrepid hull and in essence stuck two together with a third vector that could separate too. Would have loved seeing it in big battles. As it could handle a Warbird solo, it's capabilities were obviously insane. I played STO for a while and my "flagship" was a Prometheus-class, the USS Odachi NX-92309, the 2309 being a DS9 reference of Martok's finest vintage of bloodwine. 2309, "no finer vintage."
Played with a few friends and we did some fanfic stuff. I actually had fleshed out stories of my whole crew. It was basically a story of the growth of my captain, chief engineer, and first officer who became close friends going through Academy together as a crew and later got thrust into command after a transwarp testing accident. That was fun, though I think what I wrote was lost on an old PC crash.
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Gremlins!!!!!Yes! By the late, great Jerry Goldsmith (1929-2004). Considered one of the "giants" of film composers of all-time. His contributions to "Trek" were several of the movie scores and that great "Voyager" theme commission.
@BigDixRule - hope you can one day give the guy you've been telling us about a big 'ole kiss while that theme serenades you two in the background.
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