ooh, it's such a provocative thread. i'd love to sleep but i waana see what happens next.
personally, I'd rather see some pics of Joanna Christie :wink:
I just farted.
You can go to sleep now.
[edit]: Okay, regarding wisdom of career move I'd say it's pretty smart. He can't play Harry Potter the rest of his life and if he gives a good performance in a very difficult play he'll certainly get kudos as a serious actor.
Ironic sidenote: all of these pictures that are not allowed here on LPSG were posted on AOL today, the main headline store.
Ganymede said:Fuck off, bitch. I wasn't trying to "oogle" a 17-year-old. It's not my fucking fault that YOU can't read, bitch!
First, I'd like to thank Ganymede for this delightful PM:
Second, I'd like to point out that Ganymede also started a (now-removed) thread yesterday in which he asked for a video that features a 16-year-old girl, and which he knows full well cannot be posted here, as per previous threads.
I am not sure what point he wishes to make about desiring to view under-18s here. But it certainly appears that he wishes to make one.
Alright, whatever man. Just didn't seem like something worth having a strong response to. I'm quite sure Alex wasn't trying to offend. Posting direct links to pictures on Wikipedia is very near to posting the pictures themselves, and it had already been articulated at length and in detail why the owner of this site doesn't want that.
Fourth, this is somewhat related to the topic of this thread:
a. The video in question was filmed in England, where they have different laws about age of consent.
b. The pictures of Deniel Radcliffe are from England, where they have different laws about the age of consent.
[source]It's very tricky (if not impossible) to tell [if a model is over 18]... and you can be certain that many images that are seen daily across the internet feature underage 'models' without anyone being aware of it. For me, it's a case of knowing the provenance of images rather than gauging anything from the model (unless, of course, they are blatantly pre-pubescent or something equally unambiguous, such as having their date of birth in the image, etc.). In this case, the images originated on a Russian speciality 'boylove' site that dealt only in models aged 13 to 17.
Similarly, a photo request thread that was pulled at LPSG the other day - even though it was for images that even a google search could locate - dealt with subjects who are known to have been 16 at the time they were photographed nude. I dispute that anyone would have been aware that they were underage on the basis of the images themselves, and there should be no doubt that the models in question entered into the deal to be photographed confidently and happily in this instance as a means of showing off their physique; something that they have attested time and again in interviews.
However, when the knowledge that these 'models' are underage is in the public domain and sufficiently well-known that a google search can pinpoint the fact in a few seconds... then that's when images have to be removed. Because if a few people here know immediately, then you can be sure the relevant authorities may know as well, and with incontrovertible evidence regarding age readily available, surely legal action could be brought with greater ease.
Of course, none of this precludes the idiocy of inflexible laws governing that 'maturity and adulthood' commence only on the day that one turns 18, and that all images of this type featuring under-18s must by definition be 'child pornography'. But until we have a case-by-case system that addresses individual maturity and self-awareness, this is the rigid system by which we have to live in order for websites not to be closed down or our personal freedom removed from us. In a sense, this is my answer to your question, though: we don't know merely from 'looking', and neither should we --- because no two under-eighteens (or over-eighteens) are going to look mature to an identical extent. If we believed we could tell categorically on the basis of intrinsic physical traits rather than outside knowledge about the provenance of certain photographs, then we would be as stupid, inflexible and delusional as the law.
We live in a sick sick world where nudity for the sake of art is frowned upon to the point of illegality but depictions of violence in the media and violence on the streets is not only accepted and expected, but often encouraged.
This world needs an enema.
Equus
I just farted.
You can go to sleep now.
I never expected LPSG would be so right-winged puritanical.
ah, that's who i was thinking of! Elizabeth Berkeley. she killed her career with Showgirls. well, i wonder if Equus (<---sic?) is going to be any good? i'd hate for him to go through all that for a shitty play.
he does have some big balls though (relax, not in THAT way....dirty minded people.) i would have NEVER done something like that when i was 17. i'm still too self-concious.