Do Bisexual men actually settle down with men?

[Smallteaplant]

Oh of course. Took to me a long time to realize this unfortunately. But it's also a good gauge of the type of bisexual man that gets intertwined with me back then.

The feminine aspects of me certainly helped reel in bisexual men, it made me more approachable, but it wasn't the aspect that kept them in my life. The sex I had with them also mirrored this logic.

Initially they would want to be top with me and stick rigidly to the masc/femme sex roles, but if they hung around long enough they began blossoming into bottoms, until they become exclusively bottom with me sometimes.

This last bit actually bothered me. Because I paid the social toll for being a feminine man back then but here is this guy who robbed me of my reward by not validating my femininity in bed. It was a little twisted but part of the appeal also.

It was a different time. But I've never really been with a a gay man who could really validate my feminine side the way a bisexual or "Straight" man could. They bring out my masculine side almost exclusively in sex and in relationships, and that side of me is very traditional masculine. I say this realizing that this is all in my head, a fetish or psychosexual persona, but it feels real to me.

Bisexual men when they are right, are the only type of a man that could authentically validate and bring out my 2 sides in bed and emotionally. Sometimes at once. And when it is reflected by them, it's a delight unmatched.

Sounds like you have autogynephilia and meta-attraction. Could you be in a relationship with anyone as long as they make you feel feminine?

 

[Smallteaplant]

Lol, What's ironic is you reducing gay men down to stereotypes yet when we do the same for bi men, we are the enemy. I guess it's the usual schtick, the gays are the demons that are shallow, ageist, racists with a Peter pan complex that want mostly straight men that I personally agree with, the difference between you and me is I call out my fellow gays going down that route but to you, the bisexuals are the angels with no spot of dirt on their white linen, what's so wrong in calling out the stereotypical tropes y'all have?

What's also funny is you reacted with the laughing emoji to my post where I said I don't personally see stereotypes as a good or bad thing rather it just is yet here you are laying them down

I think that bis and gays should just respect each other’s boundaries. Bis should accept that some gays don’t want to date them. Gays should accept that the majority of bis are hetroromantic.

Just have a conversation before you interact with each other.

 

[FrankieGuile]

In my experience that's not the case. Some gay men will date and desire bisexual men and some don't. And some gay men just want sex. As evidenced by the countless hook up apps. Some gay men don't care about the man, just the dick or the ass.

You make it sound so romantic!

 

[FrankieGuile]

I think that bis and gays should just respect each other’s boundaries. Bis should accept that some gays don’t want to date them. Gays should accept that the majority of bis are hetroromantic.

Just have a conversation before you interact with each other.

As sensible as that sounds, I suppose you believe it will work in practice because people engage each other openly and honestly all the time (sober, of course!) and never try to deceive, equivocate, or presume.

 

[bigboaster]

Lol, What's ironic is you reducing gay men down to stereotypes yet when we do the same for bi men, we are the enemy. I guess it's the usual schtick, the gays are the demons that are shallow, ageist, racists with a Peter pan complex that want mostly straight men that I personally agree with, the difference between you and me is I call out my fellow gays going down that route but to you, the bisexuals are the angels with no spot of dirt on their white linen, what's so wrong in calling out the stereotypical tropes y'all have?

What's also funny is you reacted with the laughing emoji to my post where I said I don't personally see stereotypes as a good or bad thing rather it just is yet here you are laying them down

Where did i reduce anyone to stereotypes? Are you that dense? I was relaying what GAY men on reddit were saying about other GAY men. I never consigned those stereotypes.

If you actually read everything I said. I advised against basing your behavior based on personal experiences and stereotypes. But nice try I guess with your dishonest bullshit. You don't care to learn to change or attitude. Like I said. Waste of time.

Also I never once insinuated that bi men have no faults. More dishonesty. Keep it up bud. That is typical for people with an agenda to push.

Yes I put a laugh emoji to every narrow minded bisexual hater in this thread since they are usually chock full of hypocrisy. That's all.

 

[bigboaster]

The conversation steered towards people saying that we are wrong for not wanting to date them. That's why.

You get around Mr. I thought you were following me at one point.

If your reasons are not based on valid grounds. Then yes it would be based on biphobia. You can't espouse that bi men are untrustworthy cretins with a wordy dissertation like you did... and then declare yourself not biphobic right? Surely you aren't going to try to sell me that?

 

[bigboaster]

Is a relationship even worth it anymore? Love seems dead and the gay community seems a mess.

I guess this what is totally exiling bisexual men from the dating pool has to offer gay men? Hmm... Sure seems, less drama free? Or something.

 

[Urien]

Sounds like you have autogynephilia and meta-attraction.

With all due respect, I didn't share my story for your amateur armchair psychology. Furthermore, you are wrong.

Androgyny and femininity are not the domain of women and transvestites. Back in my day, being an effeminate man meant I am still a man. I never wanted to be anything but a man. I never presented as female in my life, nor do I have a desire to.

The bisexual men in my life wanted a man. The narrow viewpoint that anything remotely feminine in a man either means they are closet trans or AGP is terribly ignorant, regressive, and unscientific.

Maybe just stick to the topic.

 

[FrankieGuile]

Lol, What's ironic is you reducing gay men down to stereotypes yet when we do the same for bi men, we are the enemy. I guess it's the usual schtick, the gays are the demons that are shallow, ageist, racists with a Peter pan complex that want mostly straight men that I personally agree with, the difference between you and me is I call out my fellow gays going down that route but to you, the bisexuals are the angels with no spot of dirt on their white linen, what's so wrong in calling out the stereotypical tropes y'all have?

What's also funny is you reacted with the laughing emoji to my post where I said I don't personally see stereotypes as a good or bad thing rather it just is yet here you are laying them down

What I find ironic is the abominable spelling and grammar of your screed. Or, as you might say, "...'you' bad spelling poorly written..." Is it not enough to "reduce" gay men to stereotypes, but one must "reduce" them "down" to stereotypes?! And, I believe Mr. Pan's last name is capitalized. (What would James M. Barrie say?) My teasing aside, your response is over-the-top sensitive. Nowhere did I detect any of the accusations or stereotypes you imply. Lastly, no one believes "bisexuals are the angels..." and the notion is outrageous to anyone who reads the fanciful, fetishized, filth coming from many of them on this site. There. Now I've managed to piss off you and bisexuals but it was worth it to get a triple alliteration in the process.

 

[Ninja108]

If your reasons are not based on valid grounds. Then yes it would be based on biphobia. You can't espouse that bi men are untrustworthy cretins with a wordy dissertation like you did... and then declare yourself not biphobic right? Surely you aren't going to try to sell me that?

That or get angry when bisexual members on here took offense to some of the stuff being said and got told they should just shut up and listen.
I get it, I've seen people get burned by bi guys for the reasons mentioned in this thread so folks saying they're leery due to that shouldn't be called out for that alone.
But using those instances to imply bisexuals can never be trusted or that they'll never settle down with a man..nope.

 

[Alex57]

Lol, What's ironic is you reducing gay men down to stereotypes yet when we do the same for bi men, we are the enemy. I guess it's the usual schtick, the gays are the demons that are shallow, ageist, racists with a Peter pan complex that want mostly straight men that I personally agree with, the difference between you and me is I call out my fellow gays going down that route but to you, the bisexuals are the angels with no spot of dirt on their white linen, what's so wrong in calling out the stereotypical tropes y'all have?

What's also funny is you reacted with the laughing emoji to my post where I said I don't personally see stereotypes as a good or bad thing rather it just is yet here you are laying them down

He’s one of the biggest bisexual hypocrites on this blog. None of us gay men on here have ever condone any gay man doing any of the things he's described. He on the other hand coddle and enable bi men who perpetuate negative stereotypes.

I will just leave these statistics right here again.

 

[jthomasmpls]

He’s one of the biggest bisexual hypocrites on this blog. None of us gay men on here have ever condone any gay man doing any of the things he's described. He on the other hand coddle and enable bi men who perpetuate negative stereotypes.

I will just leave these statistics right here again.

Again, what's your point? What are you trying to accomplish?

btw the stats you shared are 5 years old but how do 6% of gay men and lesbian women end up in opposite relationships? That's confusing.

 

[Alex57]

Again, what's your point? What are you trying to accomplish?

btw the stats you shared are 5 years old but how do 6% of gay men and lesbian women end up in opposite relationships? That's confusing.

My point is very clear that statistics back up most homosexuals' experiences with bisexuals. These statistics continued on a similar trend in the following years. All of you bi-men on this thread were denying these facts. Y'all need to start holding your community accountable. Calling people “biphobic” is now laughable at best. No one takes you guys seriously anymore.

 

[Ninja108]

My point is very clear that statistics back up most homosexuals' experiences with bisexuals. These statistics continued on a similar trend in the following years. All of you bi-men on this thread were denying these facts. Y'all need to start holding your community accountable. Calling people “biphobic” is now laughable at best. No one takes you guys seriously anymore.

So in other words, you want them to jump on the all bisexuals are shitty and can't be trusted bandwagon.
Not going to happen.

 

[Jjsurp99]

So in other words, you want them to jump on the all bisexuals are shitty and can't be trusted bandwagon.
Not going to happen.

Or actually we want you guys to start calling out these bad bisexuals. Just like gays do and so do straight people

 

[jthomasmpls]

My point is very clear that statistics back up most homosexuals' experiences with bisexuals. These statistics continued on a similar trend in the following years. All of you bi-men on this thread were denying these facts. Y'all need to start holding your community accountable. Calling people “biphobic” is now laughable at best. No one takes you guys seriously anymore.

The original question is "Do Bisexual Men Actually Settle Down With Men?" By the old data you presented, the answer is still very clear, yes, bisexual men do "settle down" with men, 12% of bisexuals "settle down" with same sex partners. What's also clear is 12% is not enough for you. What percentage is enough for you?

And you didn't answer my other question, how do you explain 6% of gay men who "settle down" with women?

 

[jthomasmpls]

Or actually we want you guys to start calling out these bad bisexuals. Just like gays do and so do straight people

Calling bisexual men out for what? Who is "we". What groups are you speaking on behalf of? What is a "bad bisexual"? Can you give me an example of how gays and straights call members of their own? Or do you mean how gays and straights call out bisexual men?

 

[jthomasmpls]

You make it sound so romantic!

If your'e looking for romance and not getting it your vetting process might be corrupt. You might have more success finding what you are looking for by asking the question, setting the expectation, early to separate the wheat from the chaff. If we don't ask we don't get. In my experience LPSG is not a very romantic site.

Good luck, I hope you find what you're longing for.

 

[jthomasmpls]

My point is very clear that statistics back up most homosexuals' experiences with bisexuals. These statistics continued on a similar trend in the following years. All of you bi-men on this thread were denying these facts. Y'all need to start holding your community accountable. Calling people “biphobic” is now laughable at best. No one takes you guys seriously anymore.

Let's talk about Phobias.

Phobias are a type of anxiety disorder. A phobia is an intense, irrational, and persistent fear of an object, place, situation, feeling, or animal. People with phobias may go to great lengths to avoid the source of their fear, which can cause a lot of distress and restrict their daily life.

I don't think biphobia is a laughing matter but really the only people negatively affected are those with biphobia.

 

[Alex57]

The original question is "Do Bisexual Men Actually Settle Down With Men?" By the old data you presented, the answer is still very clear, yes, bisexual men do "settle down" with men, 12% of bisexuals "settle down" with same sex partners. What's also clear is 12% is not enough for you. What percentage is enough for you?

And you didn't answer my other question, how do you explain 6% of gay men who "settle down" with women?

Most bisexuals don't settle down with the same-sex. That's the obvious fact. A gay man dating a bisexual man is taking a huge risk since 9/10 times the bisexual man will eventually settle with the opposite-sex. Any sane gay man would take the path of least resistance and prefer a relationship with another gay man. Gay men are a minority in a predominantly heteronormative world that bi men can easily fit into. The statistics proved that most bi men will choose heteronormativity, so most gay men are not going want to be a bi-men dirty little secrete that he only uses for sex. Most Bi men are too selfish to understand this because they only think about themselves.

I don't need to answer the question about 6% of homosexuals who are in opposite-sex relationships. The answer should be very obvious to you. That 6% could be homosexuals in arranged opposite-sex marriages because of religion and cultural upbringings that forced them to do so (I am not condoning this behaviour). Also, the statistic didn’t say 6% of gay men. It said 6% of gay men and lesbians.

That fact remained that 94%, the overwhelming majority of homosexuals who live in a predominantly heteronormative world are still in same-sex relationships. This also proves that gay men have more courage than bisexual men and are living authentic lives.