Do you find these forums homophobic?

[parsonstreet]

Being a gay man means you prefer to have relations with men.

No it means I have zero interest in having sex with women. It is not preferring one thing a bit over another thing

Being deathly allergic to pussy is actually not a prerequisite

It is prerequisite not have sex with women once I have realised my orientation.

There is absolutely no reason for a genuine gay man to have sexual contact with a woman when they have no desire do so. You clearly have a desire to do so and are trying to impose this on other gay men why don't and claiming they an aversion to women's bodies.

This is literally conversion therapy and gay erasure. It is also rape culture trying to coerce people into having sex they don't want to. The whole point of sexual assault prevention is allowing people to ***RIGIDLY enforce their own boundaries.*** No part of sex should involve pestering, shaming, questioning peoples decisions, group pressure.

I think women's bodies are beautiful. We are not talking about what women's bodies look like we are talking having intimate sexual contact with a woman's body such as allegedly gay men sucking on a woman's clitoris and having penile vaginal intercourse.

Are you telling me you cannot distinguish between someone not wanting to have sex with something and someone having an aversion to it?

Straight men are allowed to have an aversion to penises even though I may not understand it. The reason it doesn't make sense to me is because I am gay so I am am viewing the situation through my own eyes not theirs so I have to ignore my own preferences and try and be empathetic.

So are you saying gay men who zero interest in sex with women are phobic? It sounds like you are. It sounds like you are ****describing gay men's sexuality as a phobia and pathology.****

 

[dreambridger]

I meant the eating pussy remark as a joke, poking at you for what I perceived to be an uptight attitude. I'm actually genuinely sorry if you found the comment coercive, that wasn't my intention, and under no circumstances would I coerce anybody to do something that they didn't want to do. I didn't think making a joke about cunnilingus would be perceived as an act of sexual assault, but that's not for me to decide. If I said anything that made you feel unsafe or like your boundaries weren't recognized, I'm sorry. I won't bring up the joke again.

I did perceive you as having an extreme aversion because I honestly don't understand why else you would have a problem with the sexual behavior or identity of people who aren't you. But I guess I was being presumptuous. Perhaps I'll just settle for saying that I just can't really understand what you're going on about because I can't relate it on a personal level, and we have different definitions of homosexuality that it's clear we can't find a middle ground on.

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

No it means I have zero interest in having sex with women. It is not preferring one thing a bit over another thing

It is prerequisite not have sex with women once I have realised my orientation.

There is absolutely no reason for a genuine gay man to have sexual contact with a woman when they have no desire do so. You clearly have a desire to do so and are trying to impose this on other gay men why don't and claiming they an aversion to women's bodies.

This is literally conversion therapy and gay erasure. It is also rape culture trying to coerce people into having sex they don't want to. The whole point of sexual assault prevention is allowing people to ***RIGIDLY enforce their own boundaries.*** No part of sex should involve pestering, shaming, questioning peoples decisions, group pressure.

I think women's bodies are beautiful. We are not talking about what women's bodies look like we are talking having intimate sexual contact with a woman's body such as allegedly gay men sucking on a woman's clitoris and having penile vaginal intercourse.

Are you telling me you cannot distinguish between someone not wanting to have sex with something and someone having an aversion to it?

Straight men are allowed to have an aversion to penises even though I may not understand it. The reason it doesn't make sense to me is because I am gay so I am am viewing the situation through my own eyes not theirs so I have to ignore my own preferences and try and be empathetic.

So are you saying gay men who zero interest in sex with women are phobic? It sounds like you are. It sounds like you are ****describing gay men's sexuality as a phobia and pathology.****

Remember when you said gay men can be homophobic congratulations because you are the most homophobic person in this whole thread. You are not the one to say who is or who isn’t a genuine gay. That concept doesn’t even exist outside a prejudice world. I’ve also reported you for your attitude.
You clearly have trauma that has made you to have an extreme vision of things and made you have a real strong repulse to anything straight thing or way of living. I’m glad you found within yourself a place to be your gay self but work on the rest instead of working and being against other gay men way of living and identity.

 

[parsonstreet]

Where are these gay men whom you claim to speak on the behalf of?

A post I made on this topic on one of the two threads had at least 10 likes BEFORE it was **DELETED**.
Many posts have been deleted from the thread.

This post from page 44 was deleted but fortunately someone quoted so it stayed visible in their post.

"zinastro said:
Why was this even necessary? What did the woman think you were doing? You're giving let's convert the gays to heterosex vibes. It's so morbid and creepy and anti-gay. You must really hate being gay, FFS."

Here is a post that wasn't deleted:

He is having sex with a trans man here so I see nothing here to question his gayhood at all...do you?

Considering Noah is extremely feminine and has a pussy... yeah.

Gay men are boycotting productions that promote gay men having str8nsex:

"Unsure as to why Whynotbi stopped producing new content. Often they had some really good videos like the one with Willam Seed.

"I read it was partially because of the harsh backlash they got for using gay men in their bi movies."

And there is this:

As a side note, just realised that this may be one of the longest running forums, looking at the page numbers (146 so far) so there is evidently a niche for it. I could be wrong.

"Majority, like about 70-80%% of the men posted on the thread have been proven to be openly bi and not gay so don't let the number of pages fool you"

This post was liked by 23 people:

Dude he was literally asked if he’s BISEXUAL and he said YES !!! Do you guys seriously think that actual GAY MEN like fucking woman, vaginas like if they did what the difference between bisexual and gay ??? ( like imagine eating or fucking a vagina and then thinking your gay bizarre world we live in it’s like some people live in fantasy world )

 

[MisterB]

This post was liked by 23 people:

Which means exactly nothing.

That's because LPSG doesn't have a dislike or such button.

So imagine if we did just how many dislikes might have appeared on that post...

Oh wait, you can't imagine.

Because you are too stuck in your own little world and self-echo chamber to see anything about this issue you claim to want to discuss other than your own perspective.

Proof? How about your own words???

Let me remind you about the title of the thread you created:

Do you find these forums homophobic?​

And this from your thread's Opening Post you wrote:

I am interested in other gay men's opinion on this.

So I can say you've proven that in addition to being a homophobic, you are also a hypocrite.

You didn't want any opinion. Other than from those who mirror your homophobic bigotry.

You must be so proud. Or something.

 

[dreambridger]

@parsonstreet I really don't think we should be engaging any more if you found my previous posts coercive and unsafe toward you. It really changes the tone of everything. I got carried away trying to shred apart your argument and then you said you felt that you were coerced, and I feel really horrible about it. I'm an SA survivor myself and what I went through was also a blurry and arguable situation like this one, but I'd rather feel heard about it than try to be convinced that it wasn't actually assault. If you felt coerced by me, the worse thing for me to do is try to argue that your feelings are untrue.

this is my last reply, like I said I feel really bad that I made you feel that way, and we shouldn't interact if I'm unsafe. Likewise you may want to consider leaving lpsg, since this is a very sexually charged, pornographic forum, and if you have certain sensitivities and boundaries then this place may not be healthy for you.

 

[parsonstreet]

You are not the one to say who is or who isn’t a genuine gay

The definition of a homosexual is somebody who is exclusively attracted to men.

That is not me making that up and it describes millions of men around the world. What else could the word gay men. In order to make a word meaningful it has to refer to something. The word bisexuals is the perfect word to describe people attracted to both sexes.

There is no need to include people who attracted to both sexes under the definition of gay. It makes the term meaningless.

The same people claiming gay men can enjoy sex with women are the some of the same people claiming gay porn stars are 1000% straight. Apparently Gay, bisexual and straight are all identical things.

If the men in gay porn are enjoying the sex they are not str8.

The idea we are all bisexual is a wonderful fantasy with no evidence to back it up. And even if we were all bisexual and society had somehow interfere with our sexualities development it would still be harmful to try and change peoples sexuality. Behaviour that is formed from social interactions can become as fixed as inherited and neurological traits.

More young people maybe be more open and identifying is non straight due to increased tolerance (although figures and definitions are disputed.)

But that tolerance has now turned into pressurising people into rejecting norms and accusing them of being mental or brainwashed or bigots if they don't go along with your concepts of gender and sexuality.

 

[parsonstreet]

I was attracted to a man once. We were both in our early twenties. One of my sisters randomly told him I was interested in him against my desires. He said he was str8.

I was really embarrassed and a bit disappointed. But that was the end of that. I would never of dreamed of pestering him in anyway to convince him we could make it work that his sexuality was fluid.

Not long after in the same place which was a local social anxiety meetup an attractive looking similar aged man invited himself back to my house. I was flattered because I had no friends and liked people paying attention to me. But in his car he started saying things like "I'm not gay" "Don't try anything on with me"

I am autistic so I find people hard to read but I wondered if he was repeatedly bringing up the topic because he was interested because I never raised the issue and some people do a kind of flirtation like that. I was confused but he kept wanting to meet up with me and saying similar things including giving me graphic details about his sex life. And he said at one stage "I'm not going to have sex with you".

I ended up feeling suicidal. I recovered and fell out of contact, then a year later I pocket accidentally dialled his number. He told me he wanted to meet up and not long after he asked me to masturbate him. During the year apart I'd found out he had told someone he was bisexual.

I became really stressed after the masturbation and then he had said "I don't know why I did that".

That has similarities to what is going on here in my opinion. Mind games played on gay men..

 

[Hotguysnudes5]

I’m sorry for your bad experience with him but that is something toxic that he did to you not something the people in here did to you or those threads for that matter.
Although what they are doing and talking about might be similar that’s no reason, in my opinion, to redirect your own bad feelings from what was done to you, to them, just because what they are saying and claiming is something that might lead to situations like the ones you experienced.
I can understand your difficulty in seeing these matters more openly, but if you pursue against them an extreme path like the one you claim they do, you will not be any different from them.
There is a lot of space between a thought, even a thought that is being shared, and an actual real life action that might harm or distress someone. You are treating the matter and everyone as if they are worse than the person who did that to you and I do believe you didn’t give that person even 1/10 of the harsh treatment you are giving everyone here.
I will leave you with something to think about… look at your past comments and see if you are not being as strict, as rigorous and as close minded to other ways of living as the the homophobic society you experienced growing up and those around you at that time?
I’m saying this because your attitude reflects the same level of strictness, aggressiveness and so on as any homophobic behavior would look like.
And if you indeed are able to see it I hope you can cross think how your actions and words might have the same effect on other people with a different life experience and struggles than you, as the homophobic actions and words you experienced in the past might have had on you at the time.

You are talking to fellow gay men, yet your opinion is not being shared in the same degree as you wanted and with the same energy you intended, the fact that this has made you shoot any other believes or hypothesis from the start makes me believe this is a case of someone hurt repeating the hurting cycle.
Your strictness and your aggressiveness towards less rigorous believes can, in the future, hurt someone the exactly same way you have been hurt.
I hope you can understand this at least.

In the field of hurt and being hurt, reasons, sides, believes and anything else looses complete matter if what you saying or doing ends up hurting someone, drive them further from their path, growth or overall evolution as a free human being.
An excellent example of someone who I think has realized that is @dreambridger because even tho he clearly didn’t meant what he said in the way you interpreted he has chosen to apologize, recognize the hurt you felt and still tried to guide you in the direction he feels might be good for you.

Even those people you are saying such things have a path in life that might end up being the realization that they are gay, that what they say is actually hurtful, that it is something that can impact others and cause harm and prejudice. Despite that I don’t believe your attitude will be the one helping them change, assist them in realizing that or any other meaningful thing.
Your attitude will probably drive them further in the wrong direction, enforce their internalize homophobia and make them even more repulse to the idea of being gay.
For me it wouldn’t be no higher pain than knowing something I said or did might have had such effects on someone struggling to find their identity and specially struggling to accept themselves.

 

[jbf78]

I am finding these forums very homophobic.

There are two threads in particular where it is being claimed gay men are having sex with women and enjoying it.

That is literally the polar opposite of being a gay man ***which is literally NOT being able to enjoy sex with women.*** It makes me feel ill to some extent to read these posts. This is gay erasure. It is mocking and degrading gay men and lying about us. Humiliating us.

There are videos of men licking a woman's vagina for ages and they are claiming these men are gay. I would probably feel physically sick if I was doing that.

People are being allowed to claim extremely homophobic things like "gay men can enjoy sex with women". And also saying nonsense like it is transphobic to assert vagina penis sex is not gay sex. Because apparently gay men have to erase their identity to appease women who identify as gay men.

On other unrelated threads there is a whole range of other gay erasure garbage like someone claiming "I am a straight man with a bisexual past" Or claiming that there are straight men doing gay porn which is abject absolute bollocks. Straight men would not do that unless they were a desperate broke drug addict who needed money for crack.


I am interested in other gay men's opinion on this.

I also think gay men who endorse all this are very homophobic and yes gay man can be homophobic and they are not entitled to humiliate other gay men and sell our identity.

Gay man having sex with women and liking it?
The fuck is this?

 

[Southeasterner]

If you notice homophobia and especially hate speech, you can report the post or comment to the moderators. If it is indeed the case, the post or comment will be deleted.

However, as pointed out by @Boaxy, the site is geared towards men, so its range includes men of different sexual orientations and women can also be members. It is not a specifically gay or LGBTQIA+ site.

 

[malakos]

I've been dinged a few times by the mods for "transphobic" remarks. I don't see being able to have a frank discussion about this issue when questioning trans identity is not allowed. You know, having sex with a female person who identifies as a man must be legitimately gay because that person is a man (despite being physically female). That's the official policy of the site, and dissenting commentary is consistently censored. So unfortunately there's only so much we can say about the relationship between male homosexuality and male homosexuals having sex with female persons.

 

[Marco Tony]

I just dicovered this thread. I knew right away by reading the first post that the OP would get tons of shit. Even though he is right. This forum is full of bisexual, pans and sexually fluid men. So they are all in the bisexual spectrum. So of course they will disagree with the OP. Those who disagree with the OP are clueless and problematic. You are encouraging the conversion therapy narative. The gay men trying pussy thread should be banned. So many gay men have complained about this thread already. Many threads have been wrongly banned or locked. But this gay men trying pussy thread is allowed. Its wrong. This thread is about men who are mostly gay who have this sick sexually fluid fantasy about gay men fucking women. None of these men posted in that thread are gay. They are in the bisexual spectrum. They are either Kinsey 5 men or even Kinsey 4 men. Real gay men would never have sex with women. Thats why they are 100% gay. Dont take your fantasies for reality.

Cole Connor and Derek Kage are examples of fake gays. They clearly likes to have sex with women. Even if they claims to be totally gay. What a joke. The cant be taken seriously. Obviously. Sexuality is fluid. And all the men in that thread are sexually fluid. So they are not gay. Dont be fooled.

Theres only one type of gay men and its gold star gay men. Kinsey 6 men. Who are 100% gay. Without any exceptions. Anything outside of that is in the bisexual spectrum. If you even try a bit to deny anything that i said, than you are denying sexology.

Marco tell it like it is. Once again.

 

[parsonstreet]

I think the idea that I as a gay man am not allowed to decide what is homophobic is victimisation.

I rarely call anyone homophobic and I don't advocate censoring homophobes or any opinions I don't like.

I have explained in depth why portraying gay men as willing to have sex with women is Traumatising. And also It's degrading to imply gay men have no self respect or respect for women and would engage in sexual behaviour they gave an aversion for kicks.

Aand the disgusting thing is the gloating about a tiny number of gay men making up 0.0000001% of gay men experi.ent with women in porn. Why would you celebrate people doing things they explicitly said they didn't want to do? That is rape culture.

 

[Cum_is_Great]

I'm not one to ever like or think this but, you are absolutely bending over backwards to feel offended and outraged over something. Your last sentence is such a slap in the face to actual SA victims and trauma. I could tell you weren't willing to have an actual nuanced and respectful conversation from the first post. I purposefully didnt engage because I could tell nothing good could come of it.

 

[lesshake]

I've been dinged a few times by the mods for "transphobic" remarks. I don't see being able to have a frank discussion about this issue when questioning trans identity is not allowed. You know, having sex with a female person who identifies as a man must be legitimately gay because that person is a man (despite being physically female). That's the official policy of the site, and dissenting commentary is consistently censored. So unfortunately there's only so much we can say about the relationship between male homosexuality and male homosexuals having sex with female persons.

Gosh, I wonder why you got modded, what a mystery

 

[parsonstreet]

Rape fantasies or fantasies about sexual domination with an element of coercion are common. Also humiliation fetishes. The idea of a gay man fictionally being pressurised into straight sex and enjoying it is an erotic fantasy. Just like any other taboo fantasy where we are aroused by things THAT we would NEVER do in reality.

But encouraging or celebrating gay porn actors to have sex with women has crossed the line from fantasy to abuse and humiliation.

Actors such as in Corbin Fisher or The Mea Melone challenge etc have been unable to get erections because of zero sexual interest/attraction.

In some of this porn they are laughed ast and a straight stud is sent into to finish the job.

I believe people including porn Actors should only have sex that they have some interest in and with some mutual attraction. Porn is problematic if most of the sex involves no pleasure from the Actors. I would act in a porn if I had the right body, was mentally well etc. But only if I could enjoy the sex.

I generally hold people in any job or life circumstance should be able to enjoy them. But sex has the added dimension that you are using full body contact and it involves strong emotions, sexual orientation etc.

 

[malakos]

Gosh, I wonder why you got modded, what a mystery

I certainly wasn't suggesting there was anything mysterious about it. As I said, the policy is clear. Odious, but clear.

 

[lesshake]

I certainly wasn't suggesting there was anything mysterious about it. As I said, the policy is clear. Odious, but clear.

There's nothing odious about being respectful towards trans people. Be better.

 

[discreetguy99]

I’m gayer than Christmas and before I came out I had sex with more women than most straight men ever will. I’d bet my life on it. I also, gasp, occasionally miss eating pussy.

Doesn’t make me any less gay or anything close to being straight.

I’m more bothered by members of our community seemingly preying on younger adult men.

If I see one more “he’s 18 now so go for it” post I’m going to ducking vomit.

It implies you’ve been watching a teenager with sexual intent, before it was legal. Just because they’re suddenly 18 doesn’t make it right.

I’ll probably get reported for this but fuck it, I stand by every syllable.