Does The Little Mermaid Have A Chance To Be A Hit ?

[Marco Tony]

The Little Mermaid remake is getting tons of hate now. The comments of the trailer on youtube are closed. That means that there was a lot a nasty comments. Possibly many racist comments. You know that the conservatives are pissed about Ariel being black. Which is insulting for them. They called this remake woke. The backlash against the movie is so bad that even the superbowl refuse to show the trailer. They replaced it with the trailer of another movie.

The remake could be a huge flop. I dont see this remake be a hit. At most it could be an average hit. But, this remake seems to be heading to be a flop. Even liberals talks against this remake. Disney must be nervous now. HOLLYWOOD is being more inclusive now with minorities being more present in movies. Movies from last year that included lgbt characters didnt do well at the box office. Like Lightyears, Strange World and Bros. They were all underwhelming at the box office. Even Knock At The Cabin lately didnt do well either. Lgbt movies just needs to be better. Then they could be big hits at the box office.

It doesnt look good for The Little Mermaid. Do you think that this remake even have a chance to do well at the box office ? Lets hope that they keep making big studios lgbt movies even if the recent lgbt movies didnt do well at the box office.

 

[yandrsupreme]

The Little Mermaid remake is getting tons of hate now. The comments of the trailer on youtube are closed. That means that there was a lot a nasty comments. Possibly many racist comments. You know that the conservatives are pissed about Ariel being black. Which is insulting for them. They called this remake woke. The backlash against the movie is so bad that even the superbowl refuse to show the trailer. They replaced it with the trailer of another movie.

The remake could be a huge flop. I dont see this remake be a hit. At most it could be an average hit. But, this remake seems to be heading to be a flop. Even liberals talks against this remake. Disney must be nervous now. HOLLYWOOD is being more inclusive now with minorities being more present in movies. Movies from last year that included lgbt characters didnt do well at the box office. Like Lightyears, Strange World and Bros. They were all underwhelming at the box office. Even Knock At The Cabin lately didnt do well either. Lgbt movies just needs to be better. Then they could be big hits at the box office.

It doesnt look good for The Little Mermaid. Do you think that this remake even have a chance to do well at the box office ? Lets hope that they keep making big studios lgbt movies even if the recent lgbt movies didnt do well at the box office.

The majority of the dislike is that people don't like change. IT's like if they made Scooby Doo into a Dachsund. If the character were white with blonde or brunette hair, they wouldn't like it either. People just hate reboots, where they feel the need to change everything. Can you imagine if the 1978 Christopher Reeve Superman movie had him sporting a bright yellow costume?

 

[Marco Tony]

I dont know what they were thinking by making this risky move. Especially when USA is divided. They should have known that the conservatives would not support this movie. You can only imagine what would have happened if they would have made a black Cinderella movie. The backlash would have been bigger. Because this character is even more iconic than Ariel.

People are also talking against the special effects. Calling them cheesy and bad. But, if they would have casted a white actress, they would not insult the special effects as much. I think that the cast already knows that this remake is doomed. It quite obvious that the movie will not do well at the box office. A white Zorro would also not been accepted. Lets say that Zac Efron would play Zorro. Mexicans would be pissed. They would say '' why they could not cast a mexican actor ? ''

 

[dreamer20]

I've seen the trailer and the youtube comments below. You'll find a number of hilarous ones.
I won't quote them as that would be "spoilers"

The film release date is May 26, 2023.

BTW there has been a "Black Cinderella movie" without a huge backlash:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinderella_(1997_film)

 

[Marco Tony]

They brough back the comments. Because they were closed last weak. All the comments starts with '' I like the part when '' Which is weird. Is it sarcasm ? Are they trying to sabotage the movie ? All the comments are similar. No other trailers had these types of comments.

 

[dreamer20]

^^Those youtube commentators are just making their usual mischievous fun Marco.

The majority of the dislike is that people don't like change. IT's like if they made Scooby Doo into a Dachsund. If the character were white with blonde or brunette hair, they wouldn't like it either. People just hate reboots, where they feel the need to change everything. Can you imagine if the 1978 Christopher Reeve Superman movie had him sporting a bright yellow costume?

Before Disney made a musical with a red haired mermaid, based on Christian Anderson's 1837 tale, Disney proved that people can love change. That change was illustrated by the 1984 film "Splash" - the mermaid being a blonde haired woman and its unique updated storyline set in the 20th Century. Splash was an excellent film. I also preferred 1989's Polly over Disney's 1960 Pollyanna. So it is possible for Disney to remake and produce more a appealing film with a different plot and cast. As for this new film, the trailer doesn't show a revised or updated plot. This film won't fail because of a divided USA, but because it would be an unoriginal, poorer rehashed version of the 1989 Little Mermaid film. I'll wait and see how it does - but it doesn't look hopeful so far.

 

[heinz.friedrich]

The Little Mermaid remake is getting tons of hate now. The comments of the trailer on youtube are closed. That means that there was a lot a nasty comments. Possibly many racist comments. You know that the conservatives are pissed about Ariel being black.

Well if you promote identity politics, the skin color will be important. If you dont promote it, it does not matter. I think they cannot complain if the conservatives are as fond of identity politics as them, now.

They should rather promote a colorless approach. Otherwise they cannot complain if people think you should not change the race because it is important.

The remake could be a huge flop. I dont see this remake be a hit. At most it could be an average hit. But, this remake seems to be heading to be a flop. Even liberals talks against this remake. Disney must be nervous now.

I dont understand the logic. They complain if stars like Ariana Grande make themselves blacker and call it blackfishing. But in the case that big cooperations do it, this is called inclusive.

You either have to call both racist or nothing. And in the case of Ariana Grande she made herself less privileged according to their logic.

I think if the twitter people were more consistent with their ideology, they would be seen as more upright.

They call the same act one time racist and another time antiracist.

HOLLYWOOD is being more inclusive now with minorities being more present in movies. Movies from last year that included lgbt characters didnt do well at the box office.

But they say you can only identify with a character if they look like you. That is not inclusive.

IF everybody can identify with you, no matter the gender, race or sexuality. You are inclusive. They use separative tactics not inclusive tactics. That is negative ideology. That is why less people like Hollywood.

Like Lightyears, Strange World and Bros. They were all underwhelming at the box office. Even Knock At The Cabin lately didnt do well either. Lgbt movies just needs to be better. Then they could be big hits at the box office.

Because they talk crap all of the time before the movies. And they alienate different potential group that might like the movies through this action.

I could also talk like them and say the actors dont deserve their positions. I just change white, male and straight with American.

The talk would go like this:

The Ariel girl got the job because of her privileges and she is systemically and institutionally discriminating the whole world. That has to be mentioned all of the time and in all interviews. And she should be ashamed of her privileges and admit them.

Nobody like this talk all of the time. The people want to enjoy movies.

 

[heinz.friedrich]

People are also talking against the special effects. Calling them cheesy and bad. But, if they would have casted a white actress, they would not insult the special effects as much. I think that the cast already knows that this remake is doomed. It quite obvious that the movie will not do well at the box office. A white Zorro would also not been accepted. Lets say that Zac Efron would play Zorro. Mexicans would be pissed. They would say '' why they could not cast a mexican actor ? ''

That could be different reasons why they dont like it. I think they just dont like Disney.

I think Disney shoud rather make more original mermaid stories. Most people dont like the repetition of old stories.

There are so many different mermaid queens in the realm of the water element. They will most probably find one for every race.

I mean they stole the mermaid idea from a guy that stole it from hermeticism and other similar teachings but they do not value the culture behind it.

This would be ok in my opinion, if some of their fanbase would not promote culutral appropriation on the other hand. You cannot promote cultural appropriation as a concept and then culturally appropriate stuff like the little mermaid.

There are even Americans that recorded the stories. They could pay him for the stories:
For the Undine Project--Exploring Imagines of the Feminine through Art

 

[EllieP]

You can't just change a character's race to suit you.​

Um...

 

[brwayne1]

^^Those youtube commentators are just making their usual mischievous fun Marco.



Before Disney made a musical with a red haired mermaid, based on Christian Anderson's 1837 tale, Disney proved that people can love change. That change was illustrated by the 1984 film "Splash" - the mermaid being a blonde haired woman and its unique updated storyline set in the 20th Century. Splash was an excellent film. I also preferred 1989's Polly over Disney's 1960 Pollyanna. So it is possible for Disney to remake and produce more a appealing film with a different plot and cast. As for this new film, the trailer doesn't show a revised or updated plot. This film won't fail because of a divided USA, but because it would be an unoriginal, poorer rehashed version of the 1989 Little Mermaid film. I'll wait and see how it does - but it doesn't look hopeful so far.

1989's Polly was the first movie I ever cried at. I didn't know I could be so moved but I was a kid then.

 

[Call_Me_Dave]

You can't just change a character's race to suit you.​

Um...

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Just wait until they find out who the model for white Jesus was….

 

[heinz.friedrich]

You can't just change a character's race to suit you.​

Um...

Race does not really matter in a human sense on these topics. Mermaids are not invented by Hans Christian Andersen, they are supposed to be elemental beings on the astral plane (water element).

Disney does not really value and respect the spiritual concept behind it (cultural appropriation). Otherwise they would know that mermaids can change their appearance. And the discussions on these topics would be senseless.

Nearly every being can change how they look on the astral plane. They can also appear human without the fish part.

I think they can appear to humans but I dont know if they can really materialize. They probably look like ghosts. There are a lot of report from people that saw these beings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elemental

 

[EllieP]

Race does not really matter in a human sense on these topics. Mermaids are not invented by Hans Christian Andersen, they are supposed to be elemental beings on the astral plane (water element).

Disney does not really value and respect the spiritual concept behind it (cultural appropriation). Otherwise they would know that mermaids can change their appearance. And the discussions on these topics would be senseless.

Nearly every being can change how they look on the astral plane. They can also appear human without the fish part.

I think they can appear to humans but I dont know if they can really materialize. They probably look like ghosts. There are a lot of report from people that saw these beings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elemental

Everything you just said applies to a deity as well. But the facts are if the original Jesus Christ manifested himself in Red State, United States he would be jailed, then tried on trumped up charges and then who know what. Wait a minute? The Pharisees were Republican?

 

[heinz.friedrich]

Everything you just said applies to a deity as well. But the facts are if the original Jesus Christ manifested himself in Red State, United States he would be jailed, then tried on trumped up charges and then who know what. Wait a minute? The Pharisees were Republican?

Jesus can change his appearance, too, as far as I know. There are even apocrypha that claim Jesus did that.
The Ancient Text That Describes Jesus as a Shapeshifter

But the shape shifter part is not in the bible.

Red is the color of Communism and Socialism. I guess you mean Republican State?

How do you know if he would be jailed in a Red State in the United States? There are not different law as far as I know.

And no, Pharisees were not Republicans they did not even exist back then.

 

[heinz.friedrich]

The comments of the trailer on youtube are closed. That means that there was a lot a nasty comments. Possibly many racist comments. You know that the conservatives are pissed about Ariel being black. Which is insulting for them. They called this remake woke.

I just remember why woke ideology is rejected. If white people are evil and disciminating, because they have the power and power oppresses people (although the most white people do not even have power, but let us generalize).


In that case, she (the girl that play Ariel) is discriminating far more people, because she is American and she has more power because she is a celebrity.

Now, she complains about discrimination because her identity black has less power, although she discriminates far more people through her identities American and Celebrity.

Do you see the double standard? She does not mention her identities that discriminates others, but only mentions the identities in which she is a victim and gain privileges. She does not gain anything if she mentions that she is American and a celebrity.


But to be honest, the whole woke assumptions are false. You do not necessarily discriminate, if you have the power and you are not necessarily evil and oppress, if your group has the power.

 

[Call_Me_Dave]

I just remember why woke ideology is rejected. If white people are evil and disciminating, because they have the power and power oppresses people (although the most white people do not even have power, but let us generalize).


In that case, she (the girl that play Ariel) is discriminating far more people, because she is American and she has more power because she is a celebrity.

Now, she complains about discrimination because her identity black has less power, although she discriminates far more people through her identities American and Celebrity.

Do you see the double standard? She does not mention her identities that discriminates others, but only mentions the identities in which she is a victim and gain privileges. She does not gain anything if she mentions that she is American and a celebrity.


But to be honest, the whole woke assumptions are false. You do not necessarily discriminate, if you have the power and you are not necessarily evil and oppress, if your group has the power.

Define woke. I’ve never gotten a true answer from anyone that uses the phrase. It’s so overused yet no one I know can clearly explain it.

 

[Call_Me_Dave]

For refrrence

 

[Motion-of-the-Ocean]

Looks like someone is giving our meatball governor another idea to outrage and distract the brain stems from the fact they are living in an economic and infrastructure hellhole of their own choosing.

Personally, I'm not too keen on any woman who not only smells strongly of fish, but where the best half is just a scaly tail.

 

[TDJ6]

it's gonna be a hit, but it's not gonna be a good movie.

 

[heinz.friedrich]

Define woke. I’ve never gotten a true answer from anyone that uses the phrase. It’s so overused yet no one I know can clearly explain it.

Those are people that claim to be righteous but use the same negative principles that the people they criticize. They often think in power systems and class systems. They are similar to the extremist on the right, but they dont know it.

They dont see everybody as equal although everybody has equal rights. And real positivity sees everybody as one. That is also what universal empathy is. You have empathy with everybody.

A form of negativity of some woke people is the definition: You say you cannot be racist in the case that your group has less power and then they say racist stuff about the group they cannot be racist against.

They think their thinking processes are good but are doing the same stuff as the people who they are criticizing (racists in this case). They are thinking in supremacist terms.

They often justify their negative thinking processes through imagined power structures. I cannot be sexist against men as a women or I cannot be heterophobic against straight people because my group has less power.

The irony is that their group has more power and more rights in their own system, because they can discriminate people based on their race, sex and sexual orientation, what they do not allow other people to do, because of their imagined power system.

They say often in the case of identity politics in movies. You have to see yourself in the movie. And they mean race, sex and sexual orientation.

Positivity sees themselves in every person nomatter what race, sex and sexual orientation that is real empathy and compassion. If you cannot see yourself in other people or you promote this stuff, you are negative. That means you divide people.

If they said, everybody can see themselves in this Ariel girl they would be positive. But the say: finally Black people have someone who is an example for them. That is othering Black people.

"People don't understand that when you're Black there's this whole other community," she shared. "It's so important for us to see ourselves."

'The Little Mermaid' star Halle Bailey talks racist backlash on Ariel casting: 'Not really a shock'

Inclusion means you have to see mirrors of yourself in everybody (empathy with everybody) and love everybody you come in contact with (including yourself). You should respect those that have the same opinion and those that have different opinions. That is inclusion.