Does The Little Mermaid Have A Chance To Be A Hit ?

[jax guy]

I'd like to see a remake like this:

 

[Keepitsmooth]

They complain about racism when Ariel is black but dont complain about racism if they swap the actor a little whiter like in Lilo and Stich (they casted Hawaian actors for the roles who they thought are a little too white).

The Lilo and Stitch complaints are absolutely ridiculous. As far as I can tell the actors cast for the part are all of Hawaiian/Asian descendants. Only because their skin tone is not dark brown, that doesn’t make them less of their race or any close to look like white people. All races come in different shades of color. I’m a very white dude and sometimes I see Asians or Latinos that are even whiter than my white ass. So seriously what are we even discussing here?

 

[FanOfMrMagoo]

I've seen the trailer and the youtube comments below. You'll find a number of hilarous ones.
I won't quote them as that would be "spoilers"

The film release date is May 26, 2023.

BTW there has been a "Black Cinderella movie" without a huge backlash:

Cinderella (1997 film) - Wikipedia

People didn't pay attention to Black Cinderella because the movie didn't make racial sense. A white father, a black mother, and an Asian child, people thought it was just an interpretation like in the theater.
Plus at that time there was not the toxicity of the internet and the sometimes very forced quotas.

 

[heinz.friedrich]

People didn't pay attention to Black Cinderella because the movie didn't make racial sense. A white father, a black mother, and an Asian child, people thought it was just an interpretation like in the theater.
Plus at that time there was not the toxicity of the internet and the sometimes very forced quotas.

I already said it. If they move Hollywood to a majority black state in the US they would have far more black people without quotas. They can even film in countries that are majority black countries and they have only black people.

If quotas are forced, it is always discrimination. You do not choose the best person, you choose the person that fits their narrative. That is why they have bad movies.

All races come in different shades of color. I’m a very white dude and sometimes I see Asians or Latinos that are even whiter than my white ass. So seriously what are we even discussing here?

That is not even my main problem. They inconsistency is a problem.

If they promote critical race theory (which is a wrong theory that lead to racism against Jews in GErmany). You have to promote all other critical theories, too. Critical nation theory, Critical language theory, critical money theory, critical media theory etc.

Critical nation theory and Critcal language theory are more like this:

BEcause most people dont speak English as their first language like me, they can only see themselves if the movies are filmed in their original language and if the movies have people from every nation in it.

Americans make only a small amout of people in the world so it is systemic discrimination to cast so much American actors.

Only 1 in 24 people are allowed to be from the US otherwise they are unconsciously hateful and xenophobic against people from other countries etc..

 

[Keepitsmooth]

BEcause most people dont speak English as their first language like me, they can only see themselves if the movies are filmed in their original language and if the movies have people from every nation in it.

Are you for real??? The only reason they cast American actors in American movies is because the movies are “”American”” indeed. The production companies are from here and they need to be on the same page to shoot the movie, with people speaking the same language otherwise it would be a formula for disaster; beside being incredibly more expensive. Imagine if they cast all actors who spoke a different language from the director or even worse if the actors spoke all different languages from each other. Then they should hire so many translators and that would cost so much more beside the fact the costs would increase for delayed shoots for sure.. And it’s not just an American thing. Movies from all over the world work the same. Idk where you’re from, but I’m sure they make movies mostly everywhere. For example I’m sure a German movie has only people who speak German in it or a Chinese movie casts Chinese actors. Common sense. Reality. Your comment moves the needle a little bit too much on the opposite direction, which is just as bad as things used to be. Tbh I consider it a b***hurt comment

 

[FanOfMrMagoo]

Now the movie is released, I can say it's a miss. Sometimes too long sometimes too cringe, the movie is weak because of the new songs. They don't fit at all. Eric is better, but the actor is weak and his song is good, but his voice not so great.
For Ariel, the voice is incredible, but the acting part is weak.
Ursula and Sebastian give the best performance in acting and vocals.
I don't judge the water, because it's not Avatar 2 level so that's stupid to compare them. However, it's Aquaman level.

 

[KingBeeFour]

They are trying to make Halle Bailey the new Whitney but she really has zero appeal. The Bodyguard was an average movie and Whitney barely showed any acting chops but she had that mass appeal. For some reason, Halle and Chloe (her sister) are obviously being pushed by Parkwood to be the new Jaden and Willow but just like those two Smith siblings who failed to succeed, it just doesn't translate. Disney even tried to make Beyoncé the voice actress happen and still failed. Halle is a great singer but for the whole package, she was obviously picked based on the Beyoncé affiliation. She couldn't act at all just like her boss.

I also don't understand why Melissa got the part. Based on the videos, she doesn't look scary at all. Why was she also wearing sleeves when Ursula was so confident with her plus size figure? Perhaps, with her current track record of flop movies, the critics are much kinder to her now but she still didn't deliver well.

Maybe we were all used to the emotions and portrayal in the animated version but they couldn't just live up to the magic of the original.

 

[Alaye]

This entire thread is a bunch of cowardice white gay racists trying to find a polite way to say I don’t want to see a black woman play a white fictional character. Yet you have been fighting the Egyptians over CleoPatra for centuries. You want the world to see white people as the only people that matter. You mock The Hawaiian people complaining about Lilo and Stitch (who have every right to be upset) and one of you actually said Hawaiians come in multiple colors yet the film is all pale Asians that look nothing like the Pacific Islanders the characters were actually based on. you guys are a joke. You’re so oppressive for people that have been trying to compare 400 years of torture, rape and slavery to gay rights. Put down the poppers and think about others for once.

 

[KingBeeFour]

This review said it best.

In 1989, The Little Mermaid delivered the kiss of life to Disney’s floundering animation studio, ushering in a period now fondly thought of as its creative renaissance. Now its live-action remake is arriving at a time of falling profits and uncertainty about the studio’s future. Talk about synchronicity. But the differences between The Little Mermaid of yesterday and The Little Mermaid of today, as with many of these remakes, are really the differences between what the industry once was and what it now is. This is a Little Mermaid robbed of its voice – its choices ruled largely by fear, rather than the thrill of creative risk.

 

[Alaye]

This review said it best.

In 1989, The Little Mermaid delivered the kiss of life to Disney’s floundering animation studio, ushering in a period now fondly thought of as its creative renaissance. Now its live-action remake is arriving at a time of falling profits and uncertainty about the studio’s future. Talk about synchronicity. But the differences between The Little Mermaid of yesterday and The Little Mermaid of today, as with many of these remakes, are really the differences between what the industry once was and what it now is. This is a Little Mermaid robbed of its voice – its choices ruled largely by fear, rather than the thrill of creative risk.

I just saw the movie today it was beautiful. little boys were crying in the theatre. It was crazy how watching King Triton die made them cry out for their fathers to comfort them. I realized so much has changed in todays society. The movie is wonderful. The best live action they’ve made thus far. After a few minutes you discover. When you take the racism and creepy adult obsessions out of it you forget the film is for children. All of the kids were so happy at the end they were excited and jumping up and down. I had forgotten myself just how dazzling Disney can be. After that awful Beauty and the Beast film… I wasn’t sure but this was great Melissa McCarthy was great too. Her movements were so smooth and she scared a few of the kids too. Lol that was funny. Halle really did an excellent job as Ariel. Her voice was perfectly angelic like Jodie’s and her sisters were all so beautiful. The movie is up against a lot of hatred but so is the rest of the country. It was a great escape and it truly is wonderful.

 

[Besthead]

Disgusted by all the alt-right and white supremacist extremist talking points on display here.

 

[FanOfMrMagoo]

This entire thread is a bunch of cowardice white gay racists trying to find a polite way to say I don’t want to see a black woman play a white fictional character. Yet you have been fighting the Egyptians over CleoPatra for centuries. You want the world to see white people as the only people that matter. You mock The Hawaiian people complaining about Lilo and Stitch (who have every right to be upset) and one of you actually said Hawaiians come in multiple colors yet the film is all pale Asians that look nothing like the Pacific Islanders the characters were actually based on. you guys are a joke. You’re so oppressive for people that have been trying to compare 400 years of torture, rape and slavery to gay rights. Put down the poppers and think about others for once.

I'm not white and I'm not racist either. I really think the movie has a lot of low moments - it's too long, too dark, and the performances of Ariel and Eric are not up to par. Although Ariel's voice is gorgeous, and the love story between her and Eric is better than in the original movie, the original movie was not really about Ariel and Eric, but rather about Ariel and King Triton. Ariel, Ursula, Sebastian, and King Triton are the best aspects of this movie, but I don't think Ariel's performance was convincing enough to surpass even the animated version. For me, the problem with this movie lies with the director. He tends to make flat movies and is the same guy who directed the Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

 

[Besthead]

Also, the movie had a $48 million opening day box office, in the US alone. That's just a bit under Avatar2, and about the same as Guardians 3 and higher than Ant-Man 3. It's higher than Super Mario's opening day, but a bit under its first Friday. Those are the biggest films of the year, so far. So, surprisingly, it does actually have a chance. Let's face it, the movie is targeted to kids. And kids aren't generally inherently racist, unless they're taught to be.
Surprisingly, it has a 95% audience score on RottenTomatoes, though I'm sure they removed the early "reviews" based only on her skin color. The Cinemascore rating - which takes a random sampling of people who actually watched the film and can't be faked by review bombing campaigns - is an A.

So, it looks like it actually does have a chance. The kids have spoken. And as usual, they've shown us a better way.

 

[FanOfMrMagoo]

I just saw the movie today it was beautiful. little boys were crying in the theatre. It was crazy how watching King Triton die made them cry out for their fathers to comfort them. I realized so much has changed in todays society. The movie is wonderful. The best live action they’ve made thus far. After a few minutes you discover. When you take the racism and creepy adult obsessions out of it you forget the film is for children. All of the kids were so happy at the end they were excited and jumping up and down. I had forgotten myself just how dazzling Disney can be. After that awful Beauty and the Beast film… I wasn’t sure but this was great Melissa McCarthy was great too. Her movements were so smooth and she scared a few of the kids too. Lol that was funny. Halle really did an excellent job as Ariel. Her voice was perfectly angelic like Jodie’s and her sisters were all so beautiful. The movie is up against a lot of hatred but so is the rest of the country. It was a great escape and it truly is wonderful.

I don't think it's their best work to date. The best is Cinderella, which was produced during the Bob Iger era and was not created exclusively for Disney+. It's one of the few films where the feminist changes make sense (in addition to Cruella and Alice in Wonderland). This movie stays true to the original story like The Lion King or Aladdin, but also adds some originality to it, similar to Dumbo and Cruella, without being as bland as Mulan. The actors are well-cast, not only because of their skin color but also because their performances are outstanding, particularly the Prince, the Stepmother, and Cinderella. I remember watching this film and thinking that it was the future of live-action movies. Although The Little Mermaid is a good film, I would rank it lower than Aladdin but higher than Mulan and Beauty and the Beast.

 

[FanOfMrMagoo]

Also, the movie had a $48 million opening day box office, in the US alone. That's just a bit under Avatar2, and about the same as Guardians 3 and higher than Ant-Man 3. It's higher than Super Mario's opening day, but a bit under its first Friday. Those are the biggest films of the year, so far. So, surprisingly, it does actually have a chance. Let's face it, the movie is targeted to kids. And kids aren't generally inherently racist, unless they're taught to be.
Surprisingly, it has a 95% audience score on RottenTomatoes, though I'm sure they removed the early "reviews" based only on her skin color. The Cinemascore rating - which takes a random sampling of people who actually watched the film and can't be faked by review bombing campaigns - is an A.

So, it looks like it actually does have a chance. The kids have spoken. And as usual, they've shown us a better way.

Does that necessarily make the film a hit? At best, it's a domestic success. I consider a film a true hit when it is both successful and good. For instance, RRR is an excellent film that meets all the criteria to be a hit - it's successful not only in India, but also internationally, the acting is great, and it's well-made.
In my opinion, for a film to truly be considered a hit and set a benchmark, it must meet all of these criteria (be well-written, well-directed, well-acted, and successful at both the domestic and international box office). Without meeting all of these criteria, the film is just a passing trend. Disney's Frozen meets all of these requirements and is an undeniable hit, kid or adult would agree.

 

[KingBeeFour]

The Lion King was doing good but do people remember Beyoncé and Childish Gambino? Aladdin did well but do they still remember Will Smith? Unfortunately, they still remember the original actors and singers and the new ones are forgotten.

 

[Alaye]

I don't think it's their best work to date. The best is Cinderella, which was produced during the Bob Iger era and was not created exclusively for Disney+. It's one of the few films where the feminist changes make sense (in addition to Cruella and Alice in Wonderland). This movie stays true to the original story like The Lion King or Aladdin, but also adds some originality to it, similar to Dumbo and Cruella, without being as bland as Mulan. The actors are well-cast, not only because of their skin color but also because their performances are outstanding, particularly the Prince, the Stepmother, and Cinderella. I remember watching this film and thinking that it was the future of live-action movies. Although The Little Mermaid is a good film, I would rank it lower than Aladdin but higher than Mulan and Beauty and the Beast.

They literally created an entire sea… it’s not the same.

 

[FanOfMrMagoo]

The Lion King was doing good but do people remember Beyoncé and Childish Gambino? Aladdin did well but do they still remember Will Smith? Unfortunately, they still remember the original actors and singers and the new ones are forgotten.

I would not describe these two films as hits. Frozen is a hit, and even people who don't know the name of the singer who provides the voice of Elsa can remember her voice, performance, and presence. In France alone, I have encountered people who can recognize the voice of the singer who dubbed Elsa's character in French. A hit impact the culture.

 

[Alaye]

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I don't think it's their best work to date. The best is Cinderella, which was produced during the Bob Iger era and was not created exclusively for Disney+. It's one of the few films where the feminist changes make sense (in addition to Cruella and Alice in Wonderland). This movie stays true to the original story like The Lion King or Aladdin, but also adds some originality to it, similar to Dumbo and Cruella, without being as bland as Mulan. The actors are well-cast, not only because of their skin color but also because their performances are outstanding, particularly the Prince, the Stepmother, and Cinderella. I remember watching this film and thinking that it was the future of live-action movies. Although The Little Mermaid is a good film, I would rank it lower than Aladdin but higher than Mulan and Beauty and the Beast.

Cinderella was great but Cinderella was not half fish. You can’t compare that to this it isn’t nearly as complex. Just about everything was fake. The root of the issue with this film is race. Most people are upset that the character wasn’t white and no matter how hard they deflect or reword their hatred it is still there. It’s not just racism it’s prejudice as well. It’s ok to disagree but have a good life.

 

[Marco Tony]

The Little Mermaid is doing quite well at the box office now. It made 95 millions at the box office. Conservatives must be pissed. Its nice that the movie did well. So, racist people wont be able to say something like,'' noboby wants to see a black mermaid.'' Many people, including the cast were possibly afraid that this remake might end up a flop. Its not a flop. We will see next week if people still supports the movie. The movie is doing well in north america. But is supposedly not doing as well internationally. So in the end, The Little Mermaid remake will possibly an average hit. The buget of this movie is 250 million. We will see if the move will be able to recuperate that.

At least The Little Mermaid remake avoided the BROS flop treatement from last year. You possibly remember what conservatives said about BROS. They said '' you see, nobody cares about gay men in movies. Nobody wants to see it. So the movie floped. This is what you get when you go woke. That movie is all about the gay agenda. They throw homosexuality down our throat. What Hollywood have become. They lost it. We dont wanna see that.'' ect...

Even with all the haters, The Little Mermaid was spared and was able to be a hit anyway. The cast must feel relieved.