Elliot Finn

I listened to a few minutes of the podcast while cleaning my bathroom and kitchen. And because I have nothing else to do I made some bullet points from the podcast for those interested.

Bullet points:

- Elliot says the most money he’s earned per scene is $2k (didn’t specify the studio). Says the guys earned way more during the 2000s. Said you will need a side hustle as a signed studio performer. He said even the popular models who get 5 shoots per month are eventually overexposed. Studios will turn on you after that.

- Says he is heterosexual! not bisexual or gay.

- Elliot says most of the guys he’s encountered are gay and bi. Very few doing gay porn are 100% hetero based on his experience.…..But apparently he is :rolleyes:

- Bottoming is what he’s most comfortable with when performing because of difficulty maintaining an erection. Relies heavily on anal numbing creams and viagra.

- His worst experience working in porn was getting two very painful anal fissures. Says the studio offered no support and essentially blamed him. Paid out of pocket for examination but couldn’t afford surgery.

- Never caught a STD/STI from any scene but did catch Chlamydia from a former girlfriend once.

- He gets lots of negative backlash from his Tiktok confessions. But says it helps his traffic and engagement on social media.

- Said he will not do anymore guy-on-guy content (even on his Onlyfans page)
- He owns 3 properties and plans on investing in a coffee shop while continuing his OF page.
- Elliot said he is divorced with a child but is now engaged again to another woman. His fiancé occasionally works with him on OF but mostly sells her own feet content.
He is straight and won't do anymore guy on guy content? I'M SHOCKED!

All kidding aside, I just mentioned elsewhere in this forum that I recently had a fissure myself. It was incredibly painful, but under most circumstances, you wouldn't need surgery for it. It just goes away on its own accord after a few weeks.
 
I recently had a fissure myself. It was incredibly painful, but under most circumstances, you wouldn't need surgery for it. It just goes away on its own accord after a few weeks.

I forgot to add that he also allowed it to heal after being examined. The interviewer asked if he knew how (or with who) did he get the fissure. Elliot only offered that the guy was well endowed, an occasional steroid user, and currently deceased. o_O
 
I listened to a few minutes of the podcast while cleaning my bathroom and kitchen. And because I have nothing else to do I made some bullet points from the podcast for those interested.

Bullet points:

- Elliot says the most money he’s earned per scene is $2k (didn’t specify the studio). Says the guys earned way more during the 2000s. Said you will need a side hustle as a signed studio performer. He said even the popular models who get 5 shoots per month are eventually overexposed. Studios will turn on you after that.

- Says he is heterosexual! not bisexual or gay.

- Elliot says most of the guys he’s encountered are gay and bi. Very few doing gay porn are 100% hetero based on his experience.…..But apparently he is :rolleyes:

- Bottoming is what he’s most comfortable with when performing because of difficulty maintaining an erection. Relies heavily on anal numbing creams and viagra.

- His worst experience working in porn was getting two very painful anal fissures. Says the studio offered no support and essentially blamed him. Paid out of pocket for examination but couldn’t afford surgery.

- Never caught a STD/STI from any scene but did catch Chlamydia from a former girlfriend once.

- He gets lots of negative backlash from his Tiktok confessions. But says it helps his traffic and engagement on social media.

- Said he will not do anymore guy-on-guy content (even on his Onlyfans page)
- He owns 3 properties and plans on investing in a coffee shop while continuing his OF page.
- Elliot said he is divorced with a child but is now engaged again to another woman. His fiancé occasionally works with him on OF but mostly sells her own feet content.
My thoughts to ur thoughts
- I think that 2k$ was at CF; there is no way something like NDS paid so much. Also how did he "know" that in 00's rates were much higher? Someone took porn history classes lmao.
- I unironically believe him; he looks miserable- it almost like you look at r@pe scene

- First of all its funny you said you are "agnostic about bisexuals" and you are one of the guys who advocate that majority of guys are g4p and then throw sarcasm at Finn's hetero. (To be clear I am not attacking u and not defending him; he is total loser). Today most of the guys id as bi/pan or fluid(fancy Word for bi lol) and it looks like Finn observations off camera confirm this. Like fucking with guys off cam literally falsify gay-for-pay.
Also isn't that ironic that CF and NDS are accused of being "pro straight studios" and then we hear most of the guys in those studios are bi (or gay).

- that's sad
-Alex James (some fugly gay4payer) literally tear him apart lol. Plus look how studios love their models
-oH My gOD
-But wait is that backlash from former directors nd models or from random ppl? Like they slide into his DM and throw fecal matter at him(like imagine Collin Simpson having a meldown )
-who cares lol
-I am proud of you(I am not)
-like whats the deal why always gf of those guys must be pornstars or escort themselves like is it or what.
 
I forgot to add that he also allowed it to heal after being examined. The interviewer asked if he knew how (or with who) did he get the fissure. Elliot only offered that the guy was well endowed, an occasional steroid user, and currently deceased. o_O
He may have gotten the fissure from bottoming. Or he may not have. It would pretty much be impossible to know.
 
He may have gotten the fissure from bottoming. Or he may not have. It would pretty much be impossible to know.
I believe he covered this topic on one of his Toks but I found it too boring.

Like the only interesting stuff is spilling about actors sexuality and dramas
 
My thoughts to ur thoughts

- First of all its funny you said you are "agnostic about bisexuals" and you are one of the guys who advocate that majority of guys are g4p and then throw sarcasm at Finn's hetero. (To be clear I am not attacking u and not defending him; he is total loser). Today most of the guys id as bi/pan or fluid(fancy Word for bi lol) and it looks like Finn observations off camera confirm this.

I know you weren’t attacking me personally but I wanted to made it clear where my sarcasm was directed.

Elliot said unequivocally that he is in fact heterosexual! (and I believe him)

Yet he goes on to say “most guys in gay porn are bisexual or homosexual” while gatekeeping his own heterosexuality. I found it incredulous that he had the ability to make that statement based on observations alone. I mean, did these guys tell Elliot they were gay or bi? How can he make that claim so cavalierly? So my eye roll moment was more about Elliot essentially saying “oh they’re all a bunch of gays but I’m the lone hetero-unicorn among them.”
 
Wolf Hudson used to say the same as Elliot:

He said of his sexuality: "I am not conventional. I am not fully straight because I do gay porn, but I'm not bi because I don't date men in my personal life. I define myself as a sexualist."

Who is Wolf Hudson?

But he changed his mind:

You’re one of the few that I know that really has been able to cross over so many boundaries in this industry. You’ve done gay, you’ve done bi, you’ve done trans, you’ve done straight. So you started with straight and then that parlayed into gay. When did the rest come in and is there any type that you like doing the most or are you an equal … is it all like 25%, 25%, and so on and so forth?

Well, at the time it was … I didn’t know anything about the industry. I didn’t know about the politics. So I didn’t know that once you did gay you couldn’t do straight. That’s a big no no. So once I did straight, for a little bit I focused on the gay, and I wanted to go back to doing straight, I was basically universally told no, you can’t really do that, no one’s going to work with you because you’ve done it.

I knew I had something unique in the fact that I could do every genre so I did the kink stuff, I did trans, but I really tried to tear down that wall of discrimination against guys who do gay porn. And it wasn’t easy. I had a few successes with lots of failures. I think that I can’t even tell you which one I like more because each one brings something that I enjoy but the politics of it makes it undesirable for me. And so I left in 2016, I decided I was not going to do this anymore. I was done.

But you came back.

Yes. I came back two years later, it was basically on a fluke. I decided to come back just for fun. I said to myself well, what do I want to do that I haven’t really explored? And I hadn’t really explored bisexuality in porn because it was never a desired genre in the industry. But I saw that it was coming up and there were a lot more opportunities, so I was like, let me just shoot a few just for fun, not really coming back.

I view my attraction based on sex so I would definitely say I am bisexual. I lean more straight because I am definitely romantically inclined to women. I’m not opposed to it with men, it just hasn’t happened for me, but I am very much … I would definitely say I’m bisexual. I am attracted to the genders. I’m attracted to women and I’m attracted to men.

Wolf Hudson is Sexy, Smart & So Much More • Instinct Magazine
 
I know you weren’t attacking me personally but I wanted to made it clear where my sarcasm was directed.

Elliot said unequivocally that he is in fact heterosexual! (and I believe him)

Yet he goes on to say “most guys in gay porn are bisexual or homosexual” while gatekeeping his own heterosexuality. I found it incredulous that he had the ability to make that statement based on observations alone. I mean, did these guys tell Elliot they were gay or bi? How can he make that claim so cavalierly? So my eye roll moment was more about Elliot essentially saying “oh they’re all a bunch of gays but I’m the lone hetero-unicorn among them.”
The reason he can gatekeep his sexuality is because he didn't fuck with guys off camera and since he was behind the scenes at NDS and CF he heard and saw more than enough. Do you really think models themselves are not interested in their co stars personal lives? Plus he mentioned (on one of his TikToks) that most guys he met identified themselves as bi; he only threw a shade at those few that "keep telling him they are str8 yet fuck with guys off camera".
Plus he was fucking.. I mean performing with those guys, you really think he couldn't sense they were into sex or something?
But I agree he kinda try to make himself look unique; but he is right; very few guys are straight most are bi and a lot are gay.
 
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Wolf Hudson used to say the same as Elliot:

He said of his sexuality: "I am not conventional. I am not fully straight because I do gay porn, but I'm not bi because I don't date men in my personal life. I define myself as a sexualist."

Who is Wolf Hudson?

But he changed his mind:

You’re one of the few that I know that really has been able to cross over so many boundaries in this industry. You’ve done gay, you’ve done bi, you’ve done trans, you’ve done straight. So you started with straight and then that parlayed into gay. When did the rest come in and is there any type that you like doing the most or are you an equal … is it all like 25%, 25%, and so on and so forth?

Well, at the time it was … I didn’t know anything about the industry. I didn’t know about the politics. So I didn’t know that once you did gay you couldn’t do straight. That’s a big no no. So once I did straight, for a little bit I focused on the gay, and I wanted to go back to doing straight, I was basically universally told no, you can’t really do that, no one’s going to work with you because you’ve done it.

I knew I had something unique in the fact that I could do every genre so I did the kink stuff, I did trans, but I really tried to tear down that wall of discrimination against guys who do gay porn. And it wasn’t easy. I had a few successes with lots of failures. I think that I can’t even tell you which one I like more because each one brings something that I enjoy but the politics of it makes it undesirable for me. And so I left in 2016, I decided I was not going to do this anymore. I was done.

But you came back.

Yes. I came back two years later, it was basically on a fluke. I decided to come back just for fun. I said to myself well, what do I want to do that I haven’t really explored? And I hadn’t really explored bisexuality in porn because it was never a desired genre in the industry. But I saw that it was coming up and there were a lot more opportunities, so I was like, let me just shoot a few just for fun, not really coming back.

I view my attraction based on sex so I would definitely say I am bisexual. I lean more straight because I am definitely romantically inclined to women. I’m not opposed to it with men, it just hasn’t happened for me, but I am very much … I would definitely say I’m bisexual. I am attracted to the genders. I’m attracted to women and I’m attracted to men.

Wolf Hudson is Sexy, Smart & So Much More • Instinct Magazine
But Finn say he is "fully straight" despite doing gay porn; you can be 100% str8 and do this stuff but it will damage your mental health badly.
Also Hudson wasn't the only one that said doing gay porn mean he is not fully str8- Rod Daily(that bald guy with HIV) was prob early advocate of "no label" sexuality and saying no 100% str8 guy would do this. According to Michael Lucas he was "truly bisexual" and "really enjoyed being fucked by guys" so I think there is difference.
 
The reason he can gatekeep his sexuality is because he didn't fuck with guys off camera and since he was behind the scenes at NDS and CF he heard and saw more than enough. Do you really think models themselves are not interested in their co stars personal lives? Plus he mentioned (on one of his TikToks) that most guys he met identified themselves as bi; he only threw a shade at those few that "keep telling him they are str8 yet fuck with guys off camera".
Plus he was fucking.. I mean performing with those guys, you really think he couldn't sense they were into sex or something?
But I agree he kinda try to make himself look unique; but he is right; very few guys are straight most are bi and a lot are gay.

Okay, I’ll accept that. Afterall, he is the one with years in the industry interacting with these models while I’m sitting at home observing from afar. It makes total sense that he would know better than most. I guess I was trying to protect my own preconceived notions as well. Back in the 2000s at the dawn of GP4 porn I was a loud critic of the genre. Didn’t believe for a second hetero men could have same gender sex on camera. Then I did a total 180 and started believing in G4P after years of criticizing it’s supposed existence. Now I’m faced with realigning my views yet again based on Elliot’s statements.

I’m getting too old for this shtt lol :weary_face:
 
Okay, I’ll accept that. Afterall, he is the one with years in the industry interacting with these models while I’m sitting at home observing from afar. It makes total sense that he would know better than most. I guess I was trying to protect my own preconceived notions as well. Back in the 2000s at the dawn of GP4 porn I was a loud critic of the genre. Didn’t believe for a second hetero men could have same gender sex on camera. Then I did a total 180 and started believing in G4P after years of criticizing it’s supposed existence. Now I’m faced with realigning my views yet again based on Elliot’s statements.

I’m getting too old for this shtt lol :weary_face:
No worries the most rational statement is that G4P exists but its quite rare; I speculate 3-5% of models fall into this
Majority are more or less bisexual because bisexuality is a wide spectrum and its obvious most of them had some more or less common experience with guys. Some ppl just can't stomach the idea that those masculine behaving and looking guys who spend most of the time on parties and gym can like dick and male ass. A lot of actors are just gay; purely homosexual and they can be feminine or masculine.

Also Finn isn't the only one that is saying this stuff
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Unironically the "face of sexual fluidity" seems to think the same... But if someone is G4P then by definition cant be attracted to guys.
 
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Another thing that caught my curiosity was when the female podcast interviewer (who identifies as heterosexual) mentioned that she doesn’t watch straight porn to get sexually aroused. She said she goes to gay porn tube sites to watch hot men because they’re typically more aesthetically pleasing than the models in straight porn. No surprise there, but I rarely get to hear women talk about this in the open.
 

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Another thing that caught my curiosity was when the female podcast interviewer (who identifies as heterosexual) mentioned that she doesn’t watch straight porn to get sexually aroused. She said she goes to gay porn tube sites to watch hot men because they’re typically more aesthetically pleasing than the models in straight porn. No surprise there, but I rarely get to hear women talk about this in the open.
Well, that's something not really discussed but according to some surveys gay porn is most searched category by women( after lesbian porn[lol]), which make sense because straight women are not turned on by the female pornstar and in gay porn they have two athletic guys. Also they think gay porn is far more authentic and passionate.... which is funny because so many gay men are whining that the sex is mechanical and they watch str8 porn hah
 
Well, that's something not really discussed but according to some surveys gay porn is most searched category by women( after lesbian porn[lol]), which make sense because straight women are not turned on by the female pornstar and in gay porn they have two athletic guys. Also they think gay porn is far more authentic and passionate.... which is funny because so many gay men are whining that the sex is mechanical and they watch str8 porn hah
It's funny in some way if you take in consideration how gay for pay was perceived in Tyra Banks Show
 
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Still weird he claims to not do porn but has new content dropping every few months. I know studios record a lot to drop later on, but this dude says he quit over a year ago…
And for someone who is straight it was weird for him to have Justin Matthews move in, before all their drama, and make a lot of fuck boy content with him until his “gf” intervened. But who am I to judge?
 
Still weird he claims to not do porn but has new content dropping every few months. I know studios record a lot to drop later on, but this dude says he quit over a year ago…
And for someone who is straight it was weird for him to have Justin Matthews move in, before all their drama, and make a lot of fuck boy content with him until his “gf” intervened. But who am I to judge?
Miss Matthews was openly bisexual but I frankly doubt there was anything between them; it seems like they both stucked in uncomfortable positions( no pun intended) and just were forced to live together for some time. Then JM evaporated as soon as he found some sugar daddy.

Also didnt he claim that Finn's girlfriend was a pedophile?
 
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Miss Matthews was openly bisexual but I frankly doubt there was anything between them; it seems like they both stucked in uncomfortable positions( no pun intended) and just were forced to live together for some time. Then JM evaporated as soon as he found some sugar daddy.

Also didnt he claim that Finn's girlfriend was a pedophile?
Forced? That you Elliott? It’s even on their tik toks they chose to move in together lol. No one forced anything I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if both these closeted scarred guys tried having a mini relationship and it fell apart and they’ve been catty ever since. Oh well both will keep rolling out content at a water drip pace to help keep their heads above water as they both float around trying to find their next niche in life. And there is nothing wrong with that it’s just they need attention while doing it lol.
 
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