Harry styles

[johnjohnston]

But also, this is a really silly place to be having this debate and I wish people would stop derailing this thread with it.

I do as well. But it’s also pretty difficult to ignore a bevy of silly or ignorant or nuance-less posts. While at least this place isn’t as bad as Twitter.

 

[johnjohnston]

The thing that annoys me most about Harry is how much he placates and panders. It’s not “baiting”, but it’s rather obvious pandering. Constantly talking about how great women are and how awful men are to appeal to basic, shallow “feminists”. Hyping up queers, wearing a rainbow jumpsuit during Coachella, waving a rainbow flag at every concert. While also having some low-key ick factor to him (he definitely spitted on Chris Pine in front of all those people and with no conceivable reason, having an affair with someone you know is married with kids and not trying to really conceal it to the public or the people on the set). It just reads as very phony and calculated. It doesn’t help that he’s not that talented, not much of a performer and has all this decent-looking, white, “masculine”, vaguely “straight presenting”/hetero-leaning privilege that he and his fans refuse to acknowledge he has. He didn’t take on My Policeman because he “felt it was a story that needed to be told”. There is nothing groundbreaking, new, subversive, insightful about this flick. He took it on because of prestige and awards. So, while I’m not here for totally shitting on him, let’s not pretend that his actions are not driven by his own ambitions.

 

[JopneJappa]

The thing that annoys me most about Harry is how much he placates and panders. It’s not “baiting”, but it’s rather obvious pandering. Constantly talking about how great women are and how awful men are to appeal to basic, shallow “feminists”. Hyping up queers, wearing a rainbow jumpsuit during Coachella, waving a rainbow flag at every concert. While also having some low-key ick factor to him (he definitely spitted on Chris Pine in front of all those people and with no conceivable reason, having an affair with someone you know is married with kids and not trying to really conceal it to the public or the people on the set). It just reads as very phony and calculated. It doesn’t help that he’s not that talented, not much of a performer and has all this decent-looking, white, “masculine”, vaguely “straight presenting”/hetero-leaning privilege that he and his fans refuse to acknowledge he has. He didn’t take on My Policeman because he “felt it was a story that needed to be told”. There is nothing groundbreaking, new, subversive, insightful about this flick. He took it on because of prestige and awards. So, while I’m not here for totally shitting on him, let’s not pretend that his actions are not driven by his own ambitions.

Almost every time an actor does a role, it's either about money or to further their career. Harry is just doing what particularly works in this era, given his limited abilities in acting. If it had been like the 80s or 90s, he would have put all his efforts to appear as "manly" as possible. It's just the "sign of the times" for him and a lot of others.

It's actually us, the audience who are to blame. We no longer want to see a good story on screen. All we want to see is something that aligns with our social/political leanings. If anything is different, no matter how good it is, it will be rejected.

 

[bigboaster]

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Seriously??? Smh

 

[KyeLorny]

I’m not sure how much Styles “relates” to queerness. He’s still very “masculine” and “straight passing” (despite wearing a blouse or some makeup here and there). He seems to have only legit dated cis women. He still hasn’t genuinely confirmed any queerness. And he has still greatly depended on hetero appeal and hetero privilege to further his career. While there’s no doubt him (and/or his team) figured playing a closeted guy in a moody “art house” movie set in the 50’s would help people view him as a serious actor and would maybe put him in awards contention.

For me, it’s not about whether you’re focused on advancing your career or not. Because most of these people’s primary focus is career advancement as well as ego. And it’s not about Styles’ “queerness”, preferences, potential degrees of fluidity, lifestyle, who he falls in love with, relationships, where he is in the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. Everyone has their own dimensions, struggles, insecurities, journeys as far as that’s concerned. It’s more about opportunity and who’s given those opportunities, whether someone’s talent warrants their opportunities, the spaces certain privileges allow you to more easily enter and exit with ease, the way people use identity and sexual politics and ignorance towards sexuality and the orientation spectrum to their benefit, the industry still having plenty of general bias and plenty of closet pressures/non-gay pressures on conventionally good-looking guys while trying to utilize “queerness” for money and prestige. It’s a convo that’s not nearly as basic as some try to present.

There aren't exactly a wealth of gay actors playing straight: it's way more straight actors playing gay for awards bait, so even if gay men/women were stopped from playing straight roles, how much of a difference would it actually make? Gay actors ARE basically barred from playing straight roles because casting directors don't think think the public buys them as straight, and gay men are still largely forced to stay closeted to have any sort of career in the industry. It's why there are so few big actors who are openly gay. I'd be more inclined to agree with "it's called ACTING for a reason" if Harry was doing an amazing job in any of the films he's in right now, but he's just not a stellar actor and can't really handle more challenging parts. He's a singer who's never had any formal acting training. There are definitely gay actors out there who could have knocked the role in My Policeman out of the park, so why take one of the few parts away from a gay actor that they could conceivably be cast in. I think it's acceptable for for people to be a little annoyed when straight actors get cast in gay roles and then get award nominations for basically just playing a stereotype (e.g. James Cordon in The Prom, PSH in Boogie Nights, etc.) More gay people should be cast in both gay and straight roles. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

But also, this is a really silly place to be having this debate and I wish people would stop derailing this thread with it.

The thing that annoys me most about Harry is how much he placates and panders. It’s not “baiting”, but it’s rather obvious pandering. Constantly talking about how great women are and how awful men are to appeal to basic, shallow “feminists”. Hyping up queers, wearing a rainbow jumpsuit during Coachella, waving a rainbow flag at every concert. While also having some low-key ick factor to him (he definitely spitted on Chris Pine in front of all those people and with no conceivable reason, having an affair with someone you know is married with kids and not trying to really conceal it to the public or the people on the set). It just reads as very phony and calculated. It doesn’t help that he’s not that talented, not much of a performer and has all this decent-looking, white, “masculine”, vaguely “straight presenting”/hetero-leaning privilege that he and his fans refuse to acknowledge he has. He didn’t take on My Policeman because he “felt it was a story that needed to be told”. There is nothing groundbreaking, new, subversive, insightful about this flick. He took it on because of prestige and awards. So, while I’m not here for totally shitting on him, let’s not pretend that his actions are not driven by his own ambitions.

Almost every time an actor does a role, it's either about money or to further their career. Harry is just doing what particularly works in this era, given his limited abilities in acting. If it had been like the 80s or 90s, he would have put all his efforts to appear as "manly" as possible. It's just the "sign of the times" for him and a lot of others.

It's actually us, the audience who are to blame. We no longer want to see a good story on screen. All we want to see is something that aligns with our social/political leanings. If anything is different, no matter how good it is, it will be rejected.

For the love of god can you guys take your essays to the private messages?

 

[Hdhdhdhdhd14-]

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[alexandersworld]

 

[tms88]

 

[enbluef9]

Christ this thread is making me nauseous.

I cant wait till the booty pics come in. I'm tired of the gossip and the essays

 

[carterdavies]

There aren't exactly a wealth of gay actors playing straight: it's way more straight actors playing gay for awards bait, so even if gay men/women were stopped from playing straight roles, how much of a difference would it actually make? Gay actors ARE basically barred from playing straight roles because casting directors don't think think the public buys them as straight, and gay men are still largely forced to stay closeted to have any sort of career in the industry. It's why there are so few big actors who are openly gay. I'd be more inclined to agree with "it's called ACTING for a reason" if Harry was doing an amazing job in any of the films he's in right now, but he's just not a stellar actor and can't really handle more challenging parts. He's a singer who's never had any formal acting training. There are definitely gay actors out there who could have knocked the role in My Policeman out of the park, so why take one of the few parts away from a gay actor that they could conceivably be cast in. I think it's acceptable for for people to be a little annoyed when straight actors get cast in gay roles and then get award nominations for basically just playing a stereotype (e.g. James Cordon in The Prom, PSH in Boogie Nights, etc.) More gay people should be cast in both gay and straight roles. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

But also, this is a really silly place to be having this debate and I wish people would stop derailing this thread with it.

Thanks for the Loooooooong insane diatribe. Silly was the word I used, maybe you need to become relevant one day.

 

[Eattom1]

My main issue is I don’t think he should have been cast to play a gay character. We have enough actual queer actors in 2022, we don’t need cis straight white men playing gay anymore. And yes I know he dodges questions about his sexual orientation, but that doesn’t make him queer. Just my opinion obviously.

They are "actors". The clue is in the name. Do you want to limit Gay actors to only working when there's Gay part? Think of the stars we would have missed out on: Rock Hudson, Montgomery Clift. This nonsense needs to stop.

 

[bigboaster]

They are "actors". The clue is in the name. Do you want to limit Gay actors to only working when there's Gay part? Think of the stars we would have missed out on: Rock Hudson, Montgomery Clift. This nonsense needs to stop.

Jesus Christ, I actually agree with your premise but some of you just make terrible arguments lol smh. Hudson & Clift were literally in the closet for the sake of his careers, That's Not a good example for your point! lmao

 

[Eattom1]

Thanks for the Loooooooong insane diatribe. Silly was the word I used, maybe you need to become relevant one day.

rude

Jesus Christ, I actually agree with your premise but some of you just make terrible arguments lol smh. Hudson & Clift were literally in the closet for the sake of his careers, That's Not a good example for your point! lmao

It was a different time. They had to be in the closet

 

[bigboaster]

rude

It was a different time. They had to be in the closet

Right, because no one is in the closet in 2022? lol "Different time" yeah of course, sure it was much worse then but times haven't changed nearly as much as they should have. Plenty of guys are still pressured to stay in the closet

Anyway sorry for continuing so off topic folks, I'm hopefully done now. Just Saw DWD and Harry is kind of passable to meh acting wise in that for me. Overall I didn't enjoy the film as much as I expected either.

 

[RyanMars]

so i saw him in concert. he was soo good and sexy.
the cool thing is everyone dresses up for the show
there were a few guys and all girls
it was a party
tour merch is expensive
he is worth it
go see it if you can

 

[califotoz]

I thought LPSG stood for Large Penis Support Group, but evidently it stands for Long Postings of Superficial Garbage. BRING BACK THE PICS OF HARRY!

 

[18577351]

I think this is one of the sexiest photos of him I have ever seen. If not THE sexiest

 

[Millywildberry]

 

[marcleep]

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his butt is cute but some of you talk about it like its bigger than J.Lo's in this pic his butt looks like it went inside, closed all doors and windows and took a nap. Also, where those leaks at?

 

[SylvestresSexyVisigoth]