Harry styles

My main issue is I don’t think he should have been cast to play a gay character. We have enough actual queer actors in 2022, we don’t need cis straight white men playing gay anymore. And yes I know he dodges questions about his sexual orientation, but that doesn’t make him queer. Just my opinion obviously.
Be VERY careful what you wish for..... when gay men and women can no longer be cast in straight roles you may think differently. It's called ACTING for a reason. Your thinking is not progressive, it's silly.
 
Be VERY careful what you wish for..... when gay men and women can no longer be cast in straight roles you may think differently. It's called ACTING for a reason. Your thinking is not progressive, it's silly.

Bingo, most people dont think about this. If we lockdown gay roles for gay actors, then it would be hypocritical to ask for gay actors to be able to perform straight characters
 
The isn’t whether straight actors can play gay roles. The issue is whether straight actor’s are giving their political power to gay roles or adding to their own political power at the expense of the gay role. It really goes down to how the actor relates to queerness. Harry is promoting queerness, I think. Someone like Tarin Egerton, for example, was trying to advance his career—he was taking from queerness.
 
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He is so perfect i'm praying to see him performing Shirtlesss on his tour for one night! Just one night!!
I’m going to one of his shows in Chicago and I’m praying so hard that he wears a hot outfit lol
 
The isn’t whether straight actors can play gay roles. The issue is whether straight actor’s are giving their political power to gay roles or adding to their own political power at the expense of the gay role. It really goes down to how the actor relates to queerness. Harry is promoting queerness, I think. Someone like Tarin Egerton, for example, was trying to advance his career—he was taking from queerness.

I’m not sure how much Styles “relates” to queerness. He’s still very “masculine” and “straight passing” (despite wearing a blouse or some makeup here and there). He seems to have only legit dated cis women. He still hasn’t genuinely confirmed any queerness. And he has still greatly depended on hetero appeal and hetero privilege to further his career. While there’s no doubt him (and/or his team) figured playing a closeted guy in a moody “art house” movie set in the 50’s would help people view him as a serious actor and would maybe put him in awards contention.

For me, it’s not about whether you’re focused on advancing your career or not. Because most of these people’s primary focus is career advancement as well as ego. And it’s not about Styles’ “queerness”, preferences, potential degrees of fluidity, lifestyle, who he falls in love with, relationships, where he is in the gender, sexual, affection, romantic, emotion, commitment spectrum. Everyone has their own dimensions, struggles, insecurities, journeys as far as that’s concerned. It’s more about opportunity and who’s given those opportunities, whether someone’s talent warrants their opportunities, the spaces certain privileges allow you to more easily enter and exit with ease, the way people use identity and sexual politics and ignorance towards sexuality and the orientation spectrum to their benefit, the industry still having plenty of general bias and plenty of closet pressures/non-gay pressures on conventionally good-looking guys while trying to utilize “queerness” for money and prestige. It’s a convo that’s not nearly as basic as some try to present.
 
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Be VERY careful what you wish for..... when gay men and women can no longer be cast in straight roles you may think differently. It's called ACTING for a reason. Your thinking is not progressive, it's silly.
There aren't exactly a wealth of gay actors playing straight: it's way more straight actors playing gay for awards bait, so even if gay men/women were stopped from playing straight roles, how much of a difference would it actually make? Gay actors ARE basically barred from playing straight roles because casting directors don't think think the public buys them as straight, and gay men are still largely forced to stay closeted to have any sort of career in the industry. It's why there are so few big actors who are openly gay. I'd be more inclined to agree with "it's called ACTING for a reason" if Harry was doing an amazing job in any of the films he's in right now, but he's just not a stellar actor and can't really handle more challenging parts. He's a singer who's never had any formal acting training. There are definitely gay actors out there who could have knocked the role in My Policeman out of the park, so why take one of the few parts away from a gay actor that they could conceivably be cast in. I think it's acceptable for for people to be a little annoyed when straight actors get cast in gay roles and then get award nominations for basically just playing a stereotype (e.g. James Cordon in The Prom, PSH in Boogie Nights, etc.) More gay people should be cast in both gay and straight roles. It doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

But also, this is a really silly place to be having this debate and I wish people would stop derailing this thread with it.