Its still a study monitored by scientists. What would you rather have, long-dicked scientists performing the studies in person, on the women, by fucking them? Did you even read the article?
How to explain the phenomenon of dick size importance? do you have any theory why that matters?
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Scientists? I think that's a broad assumption.
And, did you actually read the entire abstract, including the "Conclusions" section?
Highlights from the study "Women who prefer longer penises are more likely to have vaginal orgasms" ('Duh!') from the National Library of Medicine:
Aims: To test the hypothesis that vaginal orgasm frequency is associated with women's reporting that a longer than average penis is more likely to provoke their PVI orgasm.
Method: Three hundred twenty-three women reported in an online survey their past month frequency of various sexual behaviors (including PVI, vaginal orgasm, and clitoral orgasm), the effects of a longer than average penis on likelihood of orgasm from PVI, and the importance they attributed to PVI and to noncoital sex.
Results: Likelihood of orgasm with a longer penis was related to greater vaginal orgasm frequency but unrelated to frequencies of other sexual behaviors, including clitoral orgasm. In binary logistic regression, likelihood of orgasm with a longer penis was related to greater importance attributed to PVI and lesser importance attributed to noncoital sex.
Depends. Kinsey came a cropper when he had men measure their penises and mail the results back in on postcards. For some reason the professor of entomology (study of insects) and zoology (study of zoos) did not anticipate his young respondents would exaggerate their endowment. He'd never encountered.a dishonest ladybug or earwig. However, Masters and Johnson, who carefully measured every body part that could conceivably be measured, and attached electrodes and other monitoring devices to their study participants during sex, came to similar findings.*
As the possessor of a self-reported small penis, I can personally attest to the findings. I find that longer penises can better stimulate the deeper regions of the vagina that I and my small cohorts are unable to reach. We favor clitoral stimulation and cunnilingus ("eating pussy") to bring a woman to orgasm.
* During their investigation and diligent measuring, M & J came upon the finding that black men on average were slightly larger than white men; they were also prone to having surprisingly more extremely large members (scientifically described as"whoppers", and more commonly as BBCs ["big black cocks"]. However, they suppressed this result for over twenty years, and long after their marriage, due to fears of the controversy this undoubtedly would incur.These findings have subsequently been routinely dismissed around here by those who invariably claim the need for more study on the matter; nothing beats a good opinion! For study creators, it's very good indeed for business; the government always seems eager to fund arcane studies of some sort. I hesitate to say useless, as scientific studies are highly prized here by those who delight in their dismissal.
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In the Conclusions, it is basically admitted that there is no valid data related to actual penis dimensions.
IMO, the entire "study" is bunk.
I hope this doesn't sound too familiar, but it's revealing you know so much more about women's bodies and feelings than they do themselves. Do you as easily dismiss their conclusions about your own sexual feelings?
If you google "does penis size matter to women" you get many hundreds of pages of essays, surveys, opinions, theories. trouble is none of them agree. Instead you get a range from "Not at All" to "very much" and nuances in between. then you get sub categories covering the merits of girth vs length - then you get opposing views on how it matters - some want thicker- some want longer and yes some even want shorter claiming that some penises are just too big.
The only takeaway then is it matters to some but not always the same way. And this doesnt even begin to address political agendas that may drive responses.
So my take is that penis size has always been of passing interest although rarely amounting to a deal breaker.
If we can believe the many recent surveys of penis size that establish the average penis to be roughly 5.5 inches, then its apparent that half of the adult males in the world are smaller than that. And that means they are not being selected out of the gene pool and that means men with small penises are having sex . And that should mean- stop worrying about it.
The only takeaway then is it matters to some but not always the same way. And this doesnt even begin to address political agendas that may drive responses.
So my take is that penis size has always been of passing interest although rarely amounting to a deal breaker.
If we can believe the many recent surveys of penis size that establish the average penis to be roughly 5.5 inches, then its apparent that half of the adult males in the world are smaller than that. And that means they are not being selected out of the gene pool and that means men with small penises are having sex . And that should mean- stop worrying about it.
I dismiss the study because it does not seem to be based on anything that even remotely approaches reliable data and they say as much in the conclusions section.
I also take note of the fact that not a single female member of this site has chosen to take part in this discussion.
That right there should tell you something...
He’s referencing the shitty “science”, not saying he knows more about women then women.
Oh?. . . But that "shitty science" was based upon the opinions of 323 women, and no men. Who else would you ask about female climaxes than women? I suppose God knows, but, as a practicing RC, the last I heard God's male ("Our father who art in heaven. . . "). And we obviously can't ask the Virgin Mary, so we're back to square one.
But don't worry. I'm poking away at my own personal investigation of the matter. It's obviously not a very deep probe on my part, but it's a lot of fun. I think my wife's enjoying it too, but you never can tell.
I'll ask her tonight, "Dear, was that a vaginal or clitoral orgasm? I'm doing a little study for LPSG. Or should I ask @hzs3fg ?"323 women who answer those questions is a silly sample size. That’s all. Don’t get hung up on it.Oh?. . . But that "shitty science" was based upon the opinions of 323 women, and no men. Who else would you ask about female climaxes than women? I suppose God knows, but, as a practicing RC, the last I heard God's male ("Our father who art in heaven. . . "). And we obviously can't ask the Virgin Mary, so we're back to square one.
But don't worry. I'm poking away at my own personal investigation of the matter. It's obviously not a very deep probe on my part, but it's a lot of fun. I think my wife's enjoying it too, but you never can tell.
When you read the whole article, which has lots of stats in it and a P score that is statistically validates the respondents' answers, the researchers clearly state that the women could more accurately describe and define the length of a penis more than the girth of a penis. Girth was important, but when it came to vaginal orgasms, length was more important.Oh?. . . But that "shitty science" was based upon the opinions of 323 women, and no men. Who else would you ask about female climaxes than women? I suppose God knows, but, as a practicing RC, the last I heard God's male ("Our father who art in heaven. . . "). And we obviously can't ask the Virgin Mary, so we're back to square one.
But don't worry. I'm poking away at my own personal investigation of the matter. It's obviously not a very deep probe on my part, but it's a lot of fun. I think my wife's enjoying it too, but you never can tell.
This study seeks to find out why, through evolutionary theory, humans have such large penises in relation to body mass and size. Humans have the largest penis-to-body ratio in the animal kingdom. This is a fact that is unquestionable and needs no more research. What is more ponderous among anthropologists and sexologists, and human biology scientists, is why larger penises are around at all, when even the smallest penises among human men are proportionately large in relation to animals out in the world. This study I posted seeks to start to find some reason why men are selected for in regards to penis size, because semen does not need to come from a large penis to make a woman pregnant, there's no need for larger than average penises in human populations. There is no need. Yet, they exist, and researchers of human beings are trying to find out why. There is selection for large penises beyond aesthetics, and this study seeks to start finding out if it is because of female orgasm from vaginal stimulation.
But apparently some lpsg members are butt hurt that there are attempts to learn about such things, let alone lpsg members posting about these things...Liljock I'm not talking about you here
Dude, if you read what women post here, they could care less about these matters, and there's only like a handful that would care to post on this topic let alone any topic on lpsg lately.
That was my point.
If you go much further back, you will see that someone asked why women are not posting their thoughts in this thread.
Most of what I and others have been saying is that a) they really do not care about size as much as men do, and b) they likely think threads like this one are idiotic.
Well-thought out response,@techpump, although you lost me when you got around to P scores and such. I'm a total idiot when it comes to math. I got through it somehow in school but never understood much beyond basic arithmetic and beginner's algebra. I thought standard deviation was an attempt to normalize perversion. Talk of books which should get banned!
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Calm down; before you rush out to buy one, don't get too close, they can carry rabies. Turtles ain't no slouch either: the penis of the green turtle, whose body length is between 31 and 47 inches long, can be greater than a foot long. That must be where the term pea-green with envy comes from. No wonder turtles make such popular pets.
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Now the strangest case along this line must be the deep-sea anglerfish. They live in a really dark habitat, almost totally devoid of light, where finding a mate can be extremely difficult. As a result, when the much smaller male finally locates a female, he bites onto her side and his tissues and circulatory system fuses with hers; he sheds all unnecessary organs and body structures. In effect he becomes a total prick, permanently attached to his mate, supplying her with a constant supply of sperm. In a sense, he's now all penis, so I think he wins the prize. Plus, the lucky guy doesn't have to do a thing all day long except have sex and make babies. Every man's dream!
However, humans have the largest penis-to-body ratio among primates, not among all animals. For instance, the lowly barnacle clinging to the sides of ships has the largest penis as a proportion of its size in the animal kingdom. Among vertebrates, the Argentine blue-bill duck takes the honors. Some armadillos have a 13-inch long body and a six-inch-long penis. Talk of a stud!
Calm down; before you rush out to buy one, don't get too close, they can carry rabies. Turtles ain't no slouch either: the penis of the green turtle, whose body length is between 31 and 47 inches long, can be greater than a foot long. That must be where the term pea-green with envy comes from. No wonder turtles make such popular pets.
Now the strangest case along this line must be the deep-sea anglerfish. They live in a really dark habitat, almost totally devoid of light, where finding a mate can be extremely difficult. As a result, when the much smaller male finally locates a female, he bites onto her side and his tissues and circulatory system fuses with hers; he sheds all unnecessary organs and body structures. In effect he becomes a total prick, permanently attached to his mate, supplying her with a constant supply of sperm. In a sense, he's now all penis, so I think he wins the prize. Plus, the lucky guy doesn't have to do a thing all day long except have sex and make babies. Every man's dream!
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Its cool! P scores that are low, and the study I posted has a P score of <0.5%, means that the study is statistically valid and that the results of the study do not occur by chance alone; there is a 5% or less probability that the results occurred by chance. Statistics are used to prevent chance from being a factor in the observed results of the test. Statistics raises confidence levels of the test. So one person could look at the responses of the 300+ women in the survey and say "see, 156 of them say x" and draw a conclusion from that. But when using statistics on the women's answers, the study instead shows that what those women said collective is not judged by simple observations by a few people looking at the results. The survey questions are designed to illicit responses that, when run through stats, prevent the possibility that "women prefer large penises for their orgasms" is an answer that occurs by chance.Well-thought out response,@techpump, although you lost me when you got around to P scores and such. I'm a total idiot when it comes to math. I got through it somehow in school but never understood much beyond basic arithmetic and beginner's algebra. I thought standard deviation was an attempt to normalize perversion. Talk of books which should get banned!
Your reply above is hilarious, forgot to mention that!! lol
But those “women” were from an online survey, which is a huuuuuuuuuge barrier to relevance.
Well, they are clinicians, with degrees, who specialize in these kinds of inquiries. And no, I actually read the whole article, its a pretty big publication with a lot of detail. Not sure if access is easy, its on Academia.edu.
I'm not sure when that stuff happened, but if you believe (as I do) that none of this shit really meant that much until it began to snowball when pop media started pushing it on everybody back around 1990, I'd imagine it was even less of a "plus" for anyone way back then. Average penis sizes of popular porn studs past and present tells you all you need to know about how important it was, merely a few decades back, and most of the info we have on those times today has been rewritten, glamorized and had our own dumb modern day priorities smeared all over it.
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